Hello FacePunch,
I'd like to present a concept for criticism and comment. Please be considerate.
In a world where we are constantly having to turn to Doctors and other professionals to find out what is wrong with our health, to diagnose ailments, to tell us why it burns when we pee or why we have an increasing allergy to cat fur, how many of us have wondered why we can't just have the technology and ability to see these ailments in ourselves and heal them.
The medical community is a powerful, noble community. However, it is to be noticed that many doctors these days unfortunately do not place the betterment of their patient in Priority Number 1. Rather, they are so starved for money, and work, that they may sometimes "fabricate" a diagnosis in order to get the business. After all, everyone would love some Job Security.
It is like a car mechanic that tells 4/5 of his walk-in clients that they have failing motor mounts that will require a $1,200 replacement. He does the replacement (or in worse situations, never even replaces anything) whether it's needed or not, takes his $500 cut off the top ("labor value") and will tell each client that comes in after you that they require the same service. After all, it's an easy $500 for the mechanic right?
Where I am going with this, is, the analysis of ones own personal blood.
What if we had the technology at our fingertips to not only view our blood, the critters in it that are causing unease, but also identify those critters and discover easy, natural, and primarily, cheap solutions.
Please comment and share your thoughts and concerns with this idea.
I am looking for a lot of feedback about this to put together a report. Please give me your best :)
Thank you kindly,
Braden Lee Black
Cellular Cinema
[QUOTE=braden_909;39284378]After all, everyone would love some Job Security.[/QUOTE]
doctors are going to be needed as long as people exist
Hippocratic Oath. Look it up. Doctors agree to only practice medicine ethically.
This is only really a problem in countries without a universal healthcare system too.
My ex had presented an idea like this to me a year ago, and she is pursuing a degree in engineering with the hope of someday creating something that can do this.
Not every single thing can be diagnosed with a magic bloodometer
and yes, hippocratic oath
and this would make it even worse than webMD -- "my iphone app says i have cancer doctor please fix me"
WastedJamacan,
Very interesting. I like this comment a whole lot.
I am currently developing a system that can do just this. DIY Blood Imaging and Filming. With Image Detection to see exactly what is in your blood and display it from a database of more than 50,000 variations of bacterium, fungus, and other critters.
More to come...
More comments!
Please tell me you are wearing gloves while playing with all that blood... :pwn:
just a little FYI, your name goes to facebook, which then links to cellular cinema
really bad at hiding your advertising
they claim that you can see tapeworms, swine flu, and others from a drop of blood
"I am currently developing a system that can do just this. DIY Blood Imaging and Filming. With Image Detection to see exactly what is in your blood and display it from a database of more than 50,000 variations of bacterium, fungus, and other critters."
Advertisement? An Advertisement would be to come in and say "HEY EVERYONE ITS THE FUTURE OF HEALTH SCIENCES, CHECK OUT THIS PAGE!"
More like a general information study.
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39285371]Hippocratic Oath. Look it up. Doctors agree to only practice medicine ethically.
This is only really a problem in countries without a universal healthcare system too.[/QUOTE]
Excellent point however, in order to practice law you must pass a Bar Exam... And how many crooked money-hungry un-ethical lawyers do you see these days. 9 out of 10.
[QUOTE=braden_909;39305335]"I am currently developing a system that can do just this. DIY Blood Imaging and Filming. With Image Detection to see exactly what is in your blood and display it from a database of more than 50,000 variations of bacterium, fungus, and other critters."
Advertisement? An Advertisement would be to come in and say "HEY EVERYONE ITS THE FUTURE OF HEALTH SCIENCES, CHECK OUT THIS PAGE!"
More like a general information study.
[editline]21st January 2013[/editline]
Excellent point however, in order to practice law you must pass a Bar Exam... And how many crooked money-hungry un-ethical lawyers do you see these days. 9 out of 10.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, court lawyers don't choose what side they are on;
if they must represent the defendant, they must do it for them, not against them, no matter what they did.
Braden, you made up this quote off the top of your head, didn't you?
[url]http://www.cellularcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Drop-of-Blood-Quote.png[/url]
Be honest.
[QUOTE=Josef Stalin;39316982]Braden, you made up this quote off the top of your head, didn't you?
[url]http://www.cellularcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Drop-of-Blood-Quote.png[/url]
Be honest.[/QUOTE]
Actually Josef Stalin,
That image was produced by one of our previous developers. We are currently re-doing many images on the site along with a lot of aspects of the site.
Thus, why I did not link directly to the site. As I said, I simply am looking for people's opinions. I never intended to even mention the name of the company, much less the site. As it is far from completion.
We are currently in the stage of setting up and training several new field microscopists and are producing promotional videos.
With the introduction of Microbiome DIY Research, and Dark Field / Bright Field Microscopy, no doubt we are approaching a new frontier of the Medical industry. Bringing it into the hands of the people themselves.
probably not approaching a new frontier in medical treatment
this is just me but i'd rather have someone who knows what they are doing and are bound by the hippocratic oath than a blood imaging facility that isn't
[quote]I had Pin Worms, Pork Tape Worms, Cattle Flukes, Valley Fever, Swine Flu, Babesia, Lyme Spirochete, Liver Tumor and Candida Albicans/Candidiasis, a cause of Cancer. And that's all I could identify on the Web, as I didn't have it on film and I had to work from memory[/quote] -- founder of cellular cinema
Don't be a hippocrate.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;39317200]probably not approaching a new frontier in medical treatment
this is just me but i'd rather have someone who knows what they are doing and are bound by the hippocratic oath than a blood imaging facility that isn't
-- founder of cellular cinema[/QUOTE]
Excellent point!
However, we will not be doing any diagnosis. We will simply provide the imaging of your blood in full HD Dark Field Microscopy video files online via your account.
This, paired with image detection software from the genius himself Itzak Ehrlich, will allow you to not only view your blood and the critters in it, but also identify those and see for yourself what's inside your blood.
[editline]23rd January 2013[/editline]
So it is more of a matter of:
"Do you trust a paid Doctor that sees hundreds of patients per month more than yourself?"
After all, who knows you, better than you!
Really depends, you'd have to calibrate this machine to pick up a lot of stuff, and the price? Probably not enough except for older people/people at risk. Imagine being the guy who has to configure it so it can detect prions, chromosome defects, or worse.
[QUOTE=Zambiesv2;39323770]Really depends, you'd have to calibrate this machine to pick up a lot of stuff, and the price? Probably not enough except for older people/people at risk. Imagine being the guy who has to configure it so it can detect prions, chromosome defects, or worse.[/QUOTE]
Zambies,
Our microscopes are currently tuned to pick up on everything from Prions to Fungus to Bacterium. In an array of contrast differences, etc.
As for the price, we are talking about $100 per filming. That means for $100 you can see everything in your blood, which is really quite affordable.
I'm doubtful that you'd actually achieve a great deal with this.
As far as I know, Doctors don't just take your blood and see what they can find in there out of the (presumably) thousands of markers and indicators to diagnose you, they'd use pretty specific indicators in combination with your known symptoms.
And regardless of how accurate the image recognition software is, it seems logically a bit flawed. If someone did get one of your videos, and you determined there to be some life-threatening infection, or a massively increased white-bloodcell count, etc, they've have to see the doctors anyway - who'd probably want to take their own blood to test, I doubt they'd trust your analysis. You're not really saving any time.
Sure, they'd know that they'd need to get to the hospital, but I'm fairly certain you'd know something was wrong if you sent off for a detailed blood test.
Personally, I'd rather save $100 and go to the Doctor in the normal fashion if I suspected anything to be wrong. Although, as someone said, I do have universal healthcare, which is probably not your target market.
Oh, and it's worth mentioning that you might find yourself in risk of legal ramifications if you tell someone they've got cancer or whatever, or some legal burden of care in getting someone to the hospital.
[QUOTE=CapnScarlet2;39330660]I'm doubtful that you'd actually achieve a great deal with this.
As far as I know, Doctors don't just take your blood and see what they can find in there out of the (presumably) thousands of markers and indicators to diagnose you, they'd use pretty specific indicators in combination with your known symptoms.
And regardless of how accurate the image recognition software is, it seems logically a bit flawed. If someone did get one of your videos, and you determined there to be some life-threatening infection, or a massively increased white-bloodcell count, etc, they've have to see the doctors anyway - who'd probably want to take their own blood to test, I doubt they'd trust your analysis. You're not really saving any time.
Sure, they'd know that they'd need to get to the hospital, but I'm fairly certain you'd know something was wrong if you sent off for a detailed blood test.
Personally, I'd rather save $100 and go to the Doctor in the normal fashion if I suspected anything to be wrong. Although, as someone said, I do have universal healthcare, which is probably not your target market.
Oh, and it's worth mentioning that you might find yourself in risk of legal ramifications if you tell someone [B]they've got cancer or whatever[/B], or some legal burden of care in getting someone to the hospital.[/QUOTE]
and there in lies the scam
"hey heres pictures of your blood"
"heres pictures of things"
they don't link the two, so they are not responsible
Blood analysis isn't done by a doctor, it is done by a Medical Technologist.
The results are interpreted by a Doctor.
[QUOTE=Smoot;39333224]Blood analysis isn't done by a doctor, it is done by a Medical Technologist.
The results are interpreted by a Doctor.[/QUOTE]
yeah but all they do is take video of your blood
and let you make your own conclusions
[QUOTE=CapnScarlet2;39330660]I'm doubtful that you'd actually achieve a great deal with this.
As far as I know, Doctors don't just take your blood and see what they can find in there out of the (presumably) thousands of markers and indicators to diagnose you, they'd use pretty specific indicators in combination with your known symptoms.
And regardless of how accurate the image recognition software is, it seems logically a bit flawed. If someone did get one of your videos, and you determined there to be some life-threatening infection, or a massively increased white-bloodcell count, etc, they've have to see the doctors anyway - who'd probably want to take their own blood to test, I doubt they'd trust your analysis. You're not really saving any time.
Sure, they'd know that they'd need to get to the hospital, but I'm fairly certain you'd know something was wrong if you sent off for a detailed blood test.
Personally, I'd rather save $100 and go to the Doctor in the normal fashion if I suspected anything to be wrong. Although, as someone said, I do have universal healthcare, which is probably not your target market.
Oh, and it's worth mentioning that you might find yourself in risk of legal ramifications if you tell someone they've got cancer or whatever, or some legal burden of care in getting someone to the hospital.[/QUOTE]
I'd like to mention, despite the pessimism, this technology - if you made it work as well as you'd seem to like - would be fantastic. I just figure you're thinking about it be used in the wrong situations.
Good, cheap blood analysis in medical facilities closer to the patient - first line care, or whatever - would probably be very useful. Although I don't know enough about the figures, probably too expensive for that situation at $100 a test.
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What is EDTA? How many EDTAs should I get? How many EDTAs fit in a basket?
"Alternative medical practitioners believe EDTA acts as a powerful antioxidant to prevent free radicals from injuring blood vessel walls, therefore reducing atherosclerosis"
what the heck
Let them have their EDTA and bleed out when they take too much.
Mr. Braden Lee Black,
We appreciate your idea and will take it into consideration. Thank you for your contribution to the collective knowledge of the forums.
With Love,
Facepunch
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