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[release][B]FREMONT, Calif. — [/B]
A Silicon Valley security expert, ordered to shut down his in-home, online one-man sperm bank, vowed Tuesday to fight federal regulators because he is helping “the 99 percent.”
Trent Arsenault faces up to a $100,000 fine and as much as a year in prison if he does not comply with the order issued more than a year ago.
“It’s sort of like my way of helping the 99 percent,” he told KTVU. “A lot of the people who come out, who request the sperm cannot afford the traditional sperm bank method or their insurance plan doesn’t cover those fertility treatments that can run up into the thousands of dollars. I’m helping those childless couples have babies.”
Since 2006, Arsenault has been donating his sperm to couple for free, but the federal health regulators showed up in November 2010 to investigate his operation.
“About a year ago investigators from the FDA came out to my house and met with me in my bedroom,” he said. “The outcome of that was a cease of manufacturing order… My side of the story is that it is not a sperm bank or a clinic or some kind of an establishment. It’s actually just some individuals meeting with me with the goal of helping those couples wanting to have a baby, have a baby. There is no money or financial motive behind it.”
In a Cease Manufacturing letter, the FDA claimed that Arsenault runs a "firm" that "recovers and distributes semen and therefore is a manufacturer of human cells, tissues and cellular and tissue-based products."
An FDA inspection of Arsenault's house carried out between August and September 2010 found that he did not take the legally required precautions to prevent the spread of disease. Inspectors also questioned his record keeping, stating he did not “provide sufficient documentation.”
The FDA has estimated that Arsenault dealt out 328 semen donations to 46 recipients between 2006 and 2010.
The Fremont man said his told the San Jose Mercury News the oldest child fathered from his sperm is 4-years-old and that would of his clients are currently in some stage of pregnancy.
Though a Washington, D.C. –based law firm, Arsenault is fighting the FDA order.[/release]
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Finally my city is in the news!
I have a one man sperm bank.
Sperms survive being tossed in the trashcan on a piece of paper, right?
Genius
I'd set up a sperm bank that was 100% free on the condition that I'd have "assistance" with the extraction process.
[QUOTE]...the FDA claimed that Arsenault runs a "firm" that "recovers and distributes semen and therefore is a manufacturer of human cells, tissues and cellular and tissue-based products."[/QUOTE]
Who gives a fuck if you're "producing human cells, tissues" and assorted collections thereof so long as you're not using them to do anything illegal?
I know the issue here is supposed to be your standard liberal "lobbies have too much power and pressure federal agencies to shut down things in their interest" schtick, but I'm having a larger issue with the fact that people think Congress and power-delegated bodies like the FDA have any right to tamper with consensual human reproduction. I'm glad he's fighting it, because it would be nice to have a court codify through case law that babymaking does not fall under "interstate commerce" or whatever the fuck they think is the legal basis for the FDA's involvement here.
Secretly, this man has hundreds of children :v:
What a nifty idea
[quote]...the FDA claimed that Arsenault runs a "firm" that "recovers and distributes semen and therefore is a manufacturer of human cells, tissues and cellular and tissue-based products."[/quote]
going by this logic everyone who has ever ejaculated should be fined
not that I disagree with shutting him down, have to think of how sanitary it is and the risk of disease
hehehe, firm.
Seems to be a lot of hard work
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;33706271]Secretly, this man has hundreds of children :v:[/QUOTE]
They should let him continue. Some day in the future scientists will be analyzing the genetic makeup of the human race and end up wondering where the fuck this bottleneck came from. Like how 1/200 people are direct descendants of Genghis Khan or something like that.
I prefer to do my business with a sperm credit union.
[QUOTE=viperfan7;33706421]going by this logic everyone who has ever ejaculated should be fined[/QUOTE]
Land of the free...
Doesn't what he's doing count as prostitution?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33707017]Doesn't what he's doing count as prostitution?[/QUOTE]
If he films it he can call it porn and get away with it
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;33707017]Doesn't what he's doing count as prostitution?[/QUOTE]
His [I]"product"[/I] isn't a service (sex), instead it's a actual product (sperm).
Hahahah oh wow, a "cease of manufacturing order" for sperm
Let's say I wouldn't want to comply to that. :v:
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;33706251]Who gives a fuck if you're "producing human cells, tissues" and assorted collections thereof so long as you're not using them to do anything illegal?
I know the issue here is supposed to be your standard liberal "lobbies have too much power and pressure federal agencies to shut down things in their interest" schtick, but I'm having a larger issue with the fact that people think Congress and power-delegated bodies like the FDA have any right to tamper with consensual human reproduction. I'm glad he's fighting it, because it would be nice to have a court codify through case law that babymaking does not fall under "interstate commerce" or whatever the fuck they think is the legal basis for the FDA's involvement here.[/QUOTE]
According to the article, he didn't take the necessary safety precautions to ensure that his sperm wouldn't spread disease. That seems like reason enough for the FDA to deem his practice unsafe and therefore force him to shut it down.
[QUOTE=viperfan7;33706421]going by this logic everyone who has ever ejaculated should be fined[/QUOTE]
No they shouldn't, simply because of the mere fact that they wouldn't have [B]distributed[/B] it to a wide range of other people in the first place.
People use 99% as an excuse for everything nowadays.
I've always thought of myself as a one man sperm bank
[QUOTE=mac338;33706098]I have a one man sperm bank.
Sperms survive being tossed in the trashcan on a piece of paper, right?[/QUOTE]
Wait, you use paper? Like, lined paper or printer paper? I use tissues myself
[QUOTE=viperfan7;33706421]going by this logic everyone who has ever ejaculated should be fined[/QUOTE]
This just in. There is now a fine for having sex. :v:
[editline]13th December 2011[/editline]
And masturbating.
[QUOTE=dr.bean;33707420]Wait, you use paper? Like, lined paper or printer paper? I use tissues myself[/QUOTE]
Well if you want to get all technical...
Papyrus. I use the scrolls from the library of Alexandria for my masturbating. Hehe, made all those foolish archaeologists think it was a fire when it was me all along.
Just don't tell anyone.
I toss the tissues into the toilet while the paper is on fire, then wipe my history, cache, and cookies. I leave no evidence
I wonder how much it costs!
How the hell do you give out 328 semen donations to 46 people?
Same way I donated 4 samples to the same video
[QUOTE=RBM11;33706209]I'd set up a sperm bank that was 100% free on the condition that I'd have "assistance" with the extraction process.[/QUOTE]
That's a disturbing amount of agrees.
[QUOTE=froztshock;33706591]Like how 1/200 people are direct descendants of Genghis Khan or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Not sure if Genghis Khan works, but the idea is that every human not living on a completely isolated island community is descended from Confucius, or some other person of interest around that era.
[QUOTE=God's Pimp Hand;33707149]According to the article, he didn't take the necessary safety precautions to ensure that his sperm wouldn't spread disease. That seems like reason enough for the FDA to deem his practice unsafe and therefore force him to shut it down.
No they shouldn't, simply because of the mere fact that they wouldn't have [B]distributed[/B] it to a wide range of other people in the first place.[/QUOTE]
they say manufacture, not distribute, if they said distribute the joke wouldn't be there, but as I added into that post, I completely agree with shutting him down
also, rated clock for missing the edit, damn early quoters
I agree too. What if he had aids, which wouldn't be manifested until later, or something else like that?
Also, records are needed for this sort of thing.
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