• Boeing, SpaceX to team with NASA on space taxis
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[QUOTE] Aerospace giant Boeing and newcomer [URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-and-spacex-elon-musks-industrial-empire/"]SpaceX[/URL] will share $6.8 billion in NASA contracts to build commercial space taxis to fly astronauts to and from the space station starting in 2017, ending reliance on Russia for access to low-Earth orbit and kick starting a new era of commercial space transportation, agency officials said Tuesday. Boeing will receive a $4.2 billion Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCAP) contract to continue development of the company's CST-100 capsule while SpaceX will receive $2.6 billion to press ahead with work to perfect its futuristic Dragon crew craft. "Today's announcement sets the stage for what promises to be the most ambitious and exciting chapter in the history of NASA and human spaceflight," said NASA Administrator Charles Bolden. "From day one, the Obama administration has made it very clear that the greatest nation on Earth should not be dependent on any other nation to get into space. ... Today we're one step closer to launching our astronauts from U.S. soil on American spacecraft and ending the nation's sole reliance on Russia by 2017." Left out in the cold was defense contractor Sierra Nevada Corp., which is developing an innovative winged spaceplane known as the Dream Chaser that, unlike its competitors, is designed to glide to a runway landing like a mini space shuttle. Company officials have said they hoped to continue development of Dream Chaser with or without NASA money, but the company's near-term plans are not yet known. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boeing-spacex-to-team-with-nasa-on-space-taxi/[/url]
[quote]"From day one, the Obama administration has made it very clear that the greatest nation on Earth should not be dependent on any other nation to get into space."[/quote] fuck yea, be prepared to be liberated, solar system
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;45998097]fuck yea, be prepared to be liberated, solar system[/QUOTE]anyone know if there's oil in Uranus?
[QUOTE=Joazzz;45998241]anyone know if there's oil in Uranus?[/QUOTE] We must send some space proctologist to establish this.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;45998268]We must send some space proctologist to establish this.[/QUOTE] surely there's some kind of probe we could send first, right?
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;45998097]fuck yea, be prepared to be liberated, solar system[/QUOTE] I don't think that the sentiment behind this is a good one. Space exploration should be an international effort, not an american one. Science and Outer Space have the power to unite people and see beyond differences; it shouldn't be used to re-assert them. While it's good that private companies are getting involved in space exploration, I don't think we should be coming at it from an American exceptionalist perspective, but from a humanist/scientific one. [editline]16th September 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=apurplerock;45998308]surely there's some kind of probe we could send first, right?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-CDNLYZ0zA[/media]
[quote]"From day one, the Obama administration has made it very clear that the greatest nation on Earth should not be dependent on any other nation to get into space. ... [/quote] if that was true then why did he squander the leftover space shuttle budget that was supposed to fast track NASA's commercial and their own crew vehicle programs by spending it in his stimulus packages which turned out to just be massive political kickbacks [editline]16th September 2014[/editline] ohgod [quote]t also is not yet known whether Congress will appropriate enough money to fund the development of two spacecraft or whether NASA will be forced to down select to a single provider at some point down the road. But Bolden said he was confident Congress will provide the funding necessary to keep SpaceX and Boeing on track for maiden flights in the 2017 timeframe.[/quote] its down to the congressional slush fund....
[QUOTE=proboardslol;45998380]I don't think that the sentiment behind this is a good one. Space exploration should be an international effort, not an american one. Science and Outer Space have the power to unite people and see beyond differences; it shouldn't be used to re-assert them. While it's good that private companies are getting involved in space exploration, I don't think we should be coming at it from an American exceptionalist perspective, but from a humanist/scientific one. [editline]16th September 2014[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-CDNLYZ0zA[/media][/QUOTE] Well, Russia and China are also working on Super Heavies too. SpaceX is doing their own, too. In 100 years space is gonna be pretty sci-fi level.
[QUOTE]"From day one, the Obama administration has made it very clear that the greatest nation on Earth should not be dependent on any other nation to get into space."[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-911.gif[/IMG]
[quote]From day one, the Obama administration has made it very clear that the [b]greatest nation on Earth[/b] should not be dependent on any other nation to get into space. ...[/quote] I think even Hitler didn't have such superior opinion about Germans like American politicians have about themselves and their nation. Yet they call it patriotism, but everywhere else it's nationalism. Just a small thing that bothers me and I wanted to share. To be on topic, cool that these big companies work together and NASA is finally moving forward.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45998526]To be on topic, cool that these big companies work together and NASA is finally moving forward.[/QUOTE] They're not working together. They're directly competing. [editline]16th September 2014[/editline] It's basically [I]"Here's a bunch of money, use it to build a thing that can do x, y, z, and cost w, good luck to both of you."[/I]
[QUOTE=OvB;45998543]They're not working together. They're directly competing. [editline]16th September 2014[/editline] It's basically [I]"Here's a bunch of money, use it to build a thing that can do x, y, z, and cost w, good luck to both of you."[/I][/QUOTE] ya except its down to congress to even give them W amount of money, and there's some senators who's consituents (boeing) would be greatly enriched if space-x were forced out of the competition even though they have a clear distinct lead on everybody else, boeing doesn't even have a man-rated booster to launch on, the falcon isn't yet but since it was designed with that in mind its probably already ready it just needs the certification
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;45998097]fuck yea, be prepared to be liberated, solar system[/QUOTE] and thus in 2014 AD the republican space rangers were formed
Everyone and their mother know that Boeing is the political favorite. I guess we'll have to see what happens. "You know, we have 1% of the lobbying power of Boeing and Lockheed. If this decision is made as a function of lobbying power, we are screwed." - Elon Musk
[QUOTE=Joazzz;45998241]anyone know if there's oil in Uranus?[/QUOTE] Titan has literal oceans of the stuff.
[QUOTE=bravehat;45998850]Titan has literal oceans of the stuff.[/QUOTE] That's methane, not oil.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;45999045]That's methane, not oil.[/QUOTE] That's too bad. If Uranus had oceans of methane we could say uranus is literally a planet of farts
What does this mean for the SLS and Orion though?
[QUOTE=GoldenDargon;45999165]What does this mean for the SLS and Orion though?[/QUOTE] SLS and Orion were never going to the ISS. They're for deep space stuff.
Worth noting that these amounts are what each company requested, not NASA choosing a split based on political favorites.
kinda bummed seira nevada corp didn't get an honerable mention, but they are several years behind the current front runners and they have the much harder job of building a mini-shuttle, but i hope nasa keeps them in the commercial crew program because it represents capabilities nobody currently has even the russians and we've really needed a sort of emergency return craft like it since the early days of the ISS
[QUOTE=Prez;45999131]That's too bad. If Uranus had oceans of methane we could say uranus is literally a planet of farts[/QUOTE] Its a gas giant soooooooooooo
Ugh, Boeing is getting twice the money and they're still far behind SpaceX. We gotta pay two dollars in corporate welfare to the old guard for every dollar that gets spent on an actual innovator.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46000182]Ugh, Boeing is getting twice the money and they're still far behind SpaceX. We gotta pay two dollars in corporate welfare to the old guard for every dollar that gets spent on an actual innovator.[/QUOTE] Part of that is the money for Boeing to develop a replacement to the Russian rd-180 engines used on the Atlas rocket which is what they would be launching the CTS on I believe [editline]16th September 2014[/editline] Also until now they've only received less than a billion to design and produce it
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45998526]I think even Hitler didn't have such superior opinion about Germans like American politicians have about themselves and their nation. Yet they call it patriotism, but everywhere else it's nationalism.[/QUOTE] Its ok pineapple netherlands, one day you'll into space too.
I just wonder what could we achieve with joint effort of all space agencies and decent funding. Fucking politics.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45998526]I think even Hitler didn't have such superior opinion about Germans like American politicians have about themselves and their nation. Yet they call it patriotism, but everywhere else it's nationalism. Just a small thing that bothers me and I wanted to share. To be on topic, cool that these big companies work together and NASA is finally moving forward.[/QUOTE] I'm American, and I know that the only thing we're number one in is putting people in prison per capita. Other than Gas prices, everything is worse in this country than in almost every developed country
[QUOTE=Sableye;45999968]kinda bummed seira nevada corp didn't get an honerable mention, but they are several years behind the current front runners and they have the much harder job of building a mini-shuttle, but i hope nasa keeps them in the commercial crew program because it represents capabilities nobody currently has even the russians and we've really needed a sort of emergency return craft like it since the early days of the ISS[/QUOTE] Every person aboard the ISS has a return seat on the capsules they came up on, a dedicated lifeboat craft seems unneeded. SNC are in talks with ESA and JAXA anyway, so they should have more chances to try their craft assuming either of those organizations don't opt to buy services from SpaceX or Boeing.
Makes sense that they would pick Boeing as well. They acquired North American Aviation which did the Apollo capsules and Boeing it self did a good job with the X37-B. Boeing getting more money is kinda BS but I guess they do need it more since the Dragon is light years ahead of the CST-100.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;45998526]I think even Hitler didn't have such superior opinion about Germans like American politicians have about themselves and their nation. Yet they call it patriotism, but everywhere else it's nationalism. Just a small thing that bothers me and I wanted to share. To be on topic, cool that these big companies work together and NASA is finally moving forward.[/QUOTE] It's the country's leader's job to help promote the country and its civilian's pride
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