• German foreign minister threatens legal action against EU nations that refuse refugees
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[quote]Germany’s foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has threatened legal action against EU countries that refused to accept refugees under the bloc’s quota programme. Steinmeier said in an interview with German weekly Der Spiegel that “if it cannot be done otherwise, things will be resolved through the appropriate legal channels”, adding that “Europe is a community of law”. Refugees 'look like an army', says Hungarian PM Viktor Orban Read more The German minister spoke specifically of Slovakia and Hungary, which have both made their own threats of legal action against the controversial quota system. Slovakia said last month that it would complain against the EU quota plan to distribute 160,000 refugees and migrants across the bloc. Few migrants have entered Slovakia on their voyage to western Europe, and even fewer asylum seekers have chosen to stay. Under the EU’s quota system, Bratislava is expected to take in just under 2,300 migrants. “European solidarity is not a one-way street,” Steinmeier said, adding that “those who refuse (to welcome refugees) must know what is at stake for them: open borders in Europe”.[/quote] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/20/refugee-crisis-germany-warns-of-legal-action-against-eu-countries-ignoring-quota[/url] This is from two days ago but I haven't seen any threads about it.
So they're being threatened for not wanting to be forced to take on the social and economic burden of immigrants?
Yeah fuck off, nobody should be forced to take in refugees if they really don't want them.
uhhhh this could tare the EU apart if it is enforced,.
Yeah really good idea, its not like Germany is already loosing so much money because of this so imagine what would happen to countries that don't have that amount of money ready. Fuck your shit. What is up with the German government being so fucking awful lately
So what you are saying is that Germany and those already involved, are responcible for every single refugee coming into Europe? How will that work, when Europe should be considered as "The America abroad" in a sense that all Countries could be seen as Counties (like in the U.S). This whole Situation is completly fubar.
Nice to see the German Government's guilt tripping taking full hold here.
what the fuck is germany doing? Like are they trying to make most of EU hate them?
Is there actually a law in place that says each European country must take their fair share during a refugee crisis? If there isn't, what are they gonna sue them over?
Right course of action germany, this will definitely keep the EU unified
Why in the flying fuck did Germany go insanely retarded with this migrant crisis? They wanted to take the refugees, not entire EU. EU is a democracy, not German dictatorship, they should not have spoken for everyone.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;49360570]Why in the flying fuck did Germany go insanely retarded with this migrant crisis? [/QUOTE] Germans and Swedes have this strange self-hatred and colonial guilt (despite not [I]really[/I] being colonial powers). Oddly enough in Germanys case this doesn't apply to their slavic neighbors that they tried to exterminate. Germany really shouldn't be doing this. Merkel irresponsibly opened the gates and than had to close them up and regulate only weeks later when the burden got too heavy. Thats still affecting you guys today. [QUOTE]The German minister spoke specifically of Slovakia and Hungary, which have both made their own threats of legal action against the controversial quota system.”[/QUOTE] But Eastern Europeans shouldn't be worried about having to accept migrants anyway. They don't wanna go there. They want to go to wealthy western Europe where they can be provided with services and perhaps even be given job opportunities.
Well, this seems to be the deal they're referencing: [url]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-15-5698_en.htm[/url] And according to the BBC it was decided by a majority vote instead of a unanimous one: [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34329825[/url] Which I understand some countries think is bullshit. Still, Slovakia and Hungary really aren't required to take immense amounts of refugees in.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;49360570]Why in the flying fuck did Germany go insanely retarded with this migrant crisis? They wanted to take the refugees, not entire EU. EU is a democracy, not German dictatorship, they should not have spoken for everyone.[/QUOTE] EU democracy haha, nope. I don't even know what the EU is anymore after this, it's very much being strong armed by Germany anyway thank God for the UKs opt out.
I expected to see a lot of people here confusing refugees with immigrants. Can't say I'm disappointed, really.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49360535]Is there actually a law in place that says each European country must take their fair share during a refugee crisis? If there isn't, what are they gonna sue them over?[/QUOTE] Probably through a directive, which is legally binding but leaves to the member states freedom to choose the means to achieve that goal. And if a member state goes rogue, the EU comission is going to go after its ass at the european court of justice.
Fuck off Germany you should have no fucking say with the EU anymore (I mean the government of course)
[QUOTE]“European solidarity is not a one-way street,”[/QUOTE] How solidary was Germany when it decided it would take in way more refugees than agreed upon? It's like Germany does these unfeasible knee jerk reactions just to get some good PR because they want to be the good guys. Like for example when they quit using nuclear power just because of the Fukushima disaster.
[QUOTE=Darkus;49360435]So what you are saying is that Germany and those already involved, are responcible for every single refugee coming into Europe? How will that work, when Europe should be considered as "The America abroad" in a sense that all Countries could be seen as Counties (like in the U.S). This whole Situation is completly fubar.[/QUOTE] Europe as more then an economic union was and has always been doomed to fail. Trust me when I say that all countries in the EU secretly hate each other to the bone.
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;49361404]Europe as more then an economic union was and has always been doomed to fail. Trust me when I say that all countries in the [B]EU secretly hate each other to the bone.[/B][/QUOTE] It's not even secret, I love eurovision song contest for this reason.
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;49361404]Europe as more then an economic union was and has always been doomed to fail. Trust me when I say that [B]all countries in the EU secretly hate each other to the bone[/B].[/QUOTE] That isn't true at all...
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49360580]Germans and Swedes have this strange self-hatred and colonial guilt (despite not [I]really[/I] being colonial powers). Oddly enough in Germanys case this doesn't apply to their slavic neighbors that they tried to exterminate. Germany really shouldn't be doing this. Merkel irresponsibly opened the gates and than had to close them up and regulate only weeks later when the burden got too heavy. Thats still affecting you guys today. But Eastern Europeans shouldn't be worried about having to accept migrants anyway. They don't wanna go there. They want to go to wealthy western Europe where they can be provided with services and perhaps even be given job opportunities.[/QUOTE] hahahaha True The people they should be willing to give money and place are poles and other countries that where overrun and devastated by WW2. Makes more sense, as you have said, because that was no more than 100 years ago (Which means there are people who have suffered those consequences) and Africa or ME was almost unscathed by Germany.
Good.
If each country in Europe was rich and prosperous like Germany I wouldn't mind. But many countries have so much problems, forcing them like this simply isn't right. If they want to do it by force then they better find a way to pay for it too.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49360580]Germans and Swedes have this strange self-hatred and colonial guilt (despite not [I]really[/I] being colonial powers).[/QUOTE] Well if they weren't colonial powers to begin with then it can't possibly be colonial guilt. How could it even be self-hatred? Because you don't approve of taking in refugees from war torn countries as a wealthy nation? I don't think forcing other countries to take in more refugeess is a good idea either, but the motives you just said are assbackwards retarded, you might aswell just stay on /pol/.
Hhahahahaha! Nice try Germany, but I think you will find yourself very alone on this. Your actions have begun a very serious change in opinion amongst the people of Europe, a change in mind that you very much do not want to be repeated in history.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;49362221]If each country in Europe was rich and prosperous like Germany I wouldn't mind. But many countries have so much problems, forcing them like this simply isn't right. If they want to do it by force then they better find a way to pay for it too.[/QUOTE] The number of refugees a country will have take in is based in part on GDP and how many refugees they've received in the last five years.
60%+ of refugees are illiterate and they want us to take them. We have enough idiots in our country already.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;49362329]The number of refugees a country will have take in is based in part on GDP and how many refugees they've received in the last five years.[/QUOTE] Then they better include public debt, deficit, unemployment rates and number of people leaving it, in their calculations too. When you have few hundred thousand unemployed even taking in just a 1000 hardly makes any sense. Even the refugees themselves are aware of it, so they just pass trough.
The whole evil German tyrant narrative here is a little twisted The EU agreed to bring in hundreds of thousands of migrants and Hungary and Slovakia and some other countries dicked around and made it awkward. Is Germany, or to be more accurate, Brussels threatening to smash them with a giant fine or removal from the EU? That's not what the article says. It says that open borders are at risk for those countries - since they're not already in Schengen, we can basically conclude that means they're not going to get Schengen. Big woop. I'd say with 99% certainty that the German foreign minister is representing more than just Germany on the matter with this. This isn't some elaborate, dastardly attempt to rob your country of its sovereignty.
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