Humans and running - General

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-iGZPtWXzE[/media] On a related note I'm now starting to save for these babies: [img]http://barefootrunningshoes.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Nike-Free-Everyday-Plus-2-Shoes-300x225.jpg[/img] [b]$85[/b] :frown:

Why would you save for a pair of those when you could get a pair of these and actually do something healthy for your feet? [img]http://s3.amazonaws.com/VibramFiveFingers/m3685-hero.jpg[/img]

I think I've watched too many of those TED videos, nearly every single one is just too interesting to not watch. Those that have a drawing explaining their thoughts don't help.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28281801]Why would you save for a pair of those when you could get a pair of these and actually do something healthy for your feet? [img_thumb]http://s3.amazonaws.com/VibramFiveFingers/m3685-hero.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Haha, yeah I thought about getting those, but they look too weird for my taste. Although, the ones I put in the thread are the most flexible ones that Nike makes and have Nike+ for my iPod. Here's a link for them: [url]http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikeplus/en_ID/products/free_run?blogSource=en_ID[/url]

Flexibility doesn't mean shit. They're cashing in on your stupidity. They are still padded at the heel and will still make you run with traditional heel striking. Just like those stupid sketchers shoes and whatnot, you cannot correctly simulate the rolling motion of the foot. Shoes will always advocate heel striking which will always make people run in a way that leads to them being injured. Barefoot running and Vibrams make you run in an entirely different way. The first week or so I ran in mine, it felt awkward as hell. It's vastly different from running with shoes on because it punishes you for striking your heel. Yes, Vibrams are padded, but if you strike with your heel in them, you're going to be hurting. It forces you to strike with the balls of your feet which distributes the impact through your muscles, not your bones and joints. So, if you want to waste a lot of money on a gimmick, buy those stupid Nike's. If you actually want to be healthier, buy some Vibrams. Not only have they helped my ankle problems (I've torn tendons in both ankles due to high school football), but they are great conversation starters and virtually everyone likes them.

I feel like I've seen this thread before. Like with the same video, and with the crazy toe shoes.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28282158]Flexibility doesn't mean shit. They're cashing in on your stupidity. They are still padded at the heel and will still make you run with traditional heel striking. Just like those stupid sketchers shoes and whatnot, you cannot correctly simulate the rolling motion of the foot. Shoes will always advocate heel striking which will always make people run in a way that leads to them being injured. Barefoot running and Vibrams make you run in an entirely different way. The first week or so I ran in mine, it felt awkward as hell. It's vastly different from running with shoes on because it punishes you for striking your heel. Yes, Vibrams are padded, but if you strike with your heel in them, you're going to be hurting. It forces you to strike with the balls of your feet which distributes the impact through your muscles, not your bones and joints. So, if you want to waste a lot of money on a gimmick, buy those stupid Nike's. If you actually want to be healthier, buy some Vibrams. Not only have they helped my ankle problems (I've torn tendons in both ankles due to high school football), but they are great conversation starters and virtually everyone likes them.[/QUOTE] I don't understand. The only visible difference between the Nikes and the Vibrams are that the toes are isolated in the Vibrams. They're obviously both padded on the bottom, otherwise we can't call them shoes. I am completely new to this topic, so please excuse my ignorance.

The Nikes have waaaaaay more padding, especially in the heel. Those Vibrams only have a maximum of 4mm of padding on some areas. The Nikes have that big rubber slab as padding for the heel. The isolation of the toes makes a huge difference as well. Gives you way more stability, I haven't rolled my ankles once while wearing the Vibrams, despite playing flag football and everything in them.

Listen to maverick, Hes a pussy monster. Yay, 1000 posts

[QUOTE=Septimas;28283104]Listen to maverick, Hes a pussy monster. Yay, 1000 posts[/QUOTE] Congrats :buddy: I just spent fifteen minutes watching this video, only to find out that someone hates running shoes.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28281801]Why would you save for a pair of those when you could get a pair of these and actually do something healthy for your feet? [img_thumb]http://s3.amazonaws.com/VibramFiveFingers/m3685-hero.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Looks like the feet of a nano suit.

How durable are the Vibrams compared to regular sneakers? If there are only 4mm of padding on them, doesn't it mean that they'll get worn out much quicker? I'm also not a very out-going person, and I'm kinda of shy and insecure about myself, so I'm not sure it's such a great idea to get the Vibrams. I hear the Nikes are super light, and they have Nike Plus.

Wasn't the entire point of that fucking video to stop wearing shoes when running?

[QUOTE=doomkiwi;28287730]Wasn't the entire point of that fucking video to stop wearing shoes when running?[/QUOTE] Yeah but I'm scared on stepping on needles and broken glass on the streets. [editline]26th February 2011[/editline] I'm actually thinking about getting those Vibrams now.

I completely agree with Maverick. After purchasing my Vibrams I can't go back to using any other shoe when running is concerned. Not only does it feel much better, the stress on my feet is so ridiculously low that you are able to run the way you're supposed to run - ball first. It's simply ridiculous how useful these shoes are and, considering I do parkour, they have many other amazing characteristics such as grip, weight or lack therefore, and their form fitting design. It has to be the best shoe I've ever worn.

[QUOTE=collegegrad;28287298]How durable are the Vibrams compared to regular sneakers? If there are only 4mm of padding on them, doesn't it mean that they'll get worn out much quicker? I'm also not a very out-going person, and I'm kinda of shy and insecure about myself, so I'm not sure it's such a great idea to get the Vibrams. I hear the Nikes are super light, and they have Nike Plus.[/QUOTE] I've had the same pair of Vibrams for over a year now. I've sprinted on roads, construction sites full of rocks, ran up brick walls doing parkour, and plenty of other activites that involve using them on rough surfaces. They still protect me just fine. Also, I wear an old version called KSO's, the newer makes of Vibrams have much more padding. When I run on the street/rocks and whatnot, it doesn't hurt at all, but I can feel every bump and rock beneath my feet. I've never had a problem with getting poked by crap and whatnot, the rubber they're made out of is tough as nails.

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28293399]I've had the same pair of Vibrams for over a year now. I've sprinted on roads, construction sites full of rocks, ran up brick walls doing parkour, and plenty of other activites that involve using them on rough surfaces. They still protect me just fine. Also, I wear an old version called KSO's, the newer makes of Vibrams have much more padding. When I run on the street/rocks and whatnot, it doesn't hurt at all, but I can feel every bump and rock beneath my feet. I've never had a problem with getting poked by crap and whatnot, the rubber they're made out of is tough as nails.[/QUOTE] Wait, what's the point of wearing them if you can still fell rocks?

I heard that your feet get really smelly if you use those Vibram shoes. [QUOTE=collegegrad;28311173]Wait, what's the point of wearing them if you can still fell rocks?[/QUOTE] I'm sure being able to feel where you're stepping is a lot more of a good thing than a bad thing.

[QUOTE=collegegrad;28311173]Wait, what's the point of wearing them if you can still fell rocks?[/QUOTE] There's a difference between feeling something and having it hurt. It gives you a whole new degree of senses, it's really hard to explain. You feel everything below your feet, but nothing hurts you. It's actually fun to just walk around wearing them, feeling all of the different textures of the ground. They get smelly if you don't wash them. They have an antibacterial material in them that smells after a week or so of not washing them. However, washing them is as simple as throwing them in the wash and then letting them air dry.

I'm keen to get a pair but my feet are very odd shaped. I'm about an 11 long and a 13 wide, my toes look like stubs. Do these things stretch that much around the sides?

I want to get into running for exercise and getting off my lazy ass. I love TED talks, they are so interesting.

Suddenly, I want a pair of Vibrams. Too bad they probably cost shitloads, don't ship to Finland and don't make them in my size.

when my friends play football barefooted they dont get injured when i play barefooted some random roof brick hits my foot

[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28282158]Flexibility doesn't mean shit. They're cashing in on your stupidity. They are still padded at the heel and will still make you run with traditional heel striking. Just like those stupid sketchers shoes and whatnot, you cannot correctly simulate the rolling motion of the foot. Shoes will always advocate heel striking which will always make people run in a way that leads to them being injured. Barefoot running and Vibrams make you run in an entirely different way. The first week or so I ran in mine, it felt awkward as hell. It's vastly different from running with shoes on because it punishes you for striking your heel. Yes, Vibrams are padded, but if you strike with your heel in them, you're going to be hurting. It forces you to strike with the balls of your feet which distributes the impact through your muscles, not your bones and joints. So, if you want to waste a lot of money on a gimmick, buy those stupid Nike's. If you actually want to be healthier, buy some Vibrams. Not only have they helped my ankle problems (I've torn tendons in both ankles due to high school football), but they are great conversation starters and virtually everyone likes them.[/QUOTE] Finally someone else who understands, My school thought I was crazy to run my sprint races barefoot (they were on grass not asphalt xP).

I'm not really sure what the difference between wearing Vibrams and running barefoot is, the whole point of a shoe is that it protects your foot.