Monsanto's Roundup may be linked to fatal kidney disease, new study suggests - Polidicks

[url]http://rt.com/news/monsanto-roundup-kidney-disease-921/[/url] [IMG]http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/22/e4/90/00/rice-farmers-sri-lanka.si.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]A farmer tills a rice paddy field on the outskirts of Colombo, Sri Lanka (Reuters / Andrew Caballero-Reynolds)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]A heretofore inexplicable fatal, chronic kidney disease that has affected poor farming regions around the globe may be linked to the use of biochemical giant Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide in areas with hard water, a new study has found. The new study was published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health. Researchers suggest that Roundup, or glyphosate, becomes highly toxic to the kidney once mixed with “hard” water or metals like arsenic and cadmium that often exist naturally in the soil or are added via fertilizer. Hard water contains metals like calcium, magnesium, strontium, and iron, among others. On its own, glyphosate is toxic, but not detrimental enough to eradicate kidney tissue. The glyphosate molecule was patented as a herbicide by Monsanto in the early 1970s. The company soon brought glyphosate to market under the name “Roundup,” which is now the most commonly used herbicide in the world. The hypothesis helps explain a global rash of the mysterious, fatal Chronic Kidney Disease of Unknown etiology (CKDu) that has been found in rice paddy regions of northern Sri Lanka, for example, or in El Salvador, where CKDu is the second leading cause of death among males. [/QUOTE]

And absolutely nothing will be done about it because Monsanto will pay off a bunch of corrupt politicians to bury it and hire a bunch of pseudo scientists to make it look like it was someone else's fault or that the allegations are lies.

Well looks like there is only one logical answer, and it's simple; We need to genetically engineer our kidneys to resist roundup.

I don't mean to be a smartass. But being exposed to pesticides without proper filtration equipment can obviously lead to a lot of it being inhaled, over time that has adverse effects. These poorer regions often dont have that.

I have an idea: Someone ought to roundup monsanto and put them in jail.

Terrible source, all the links to the actual study are broken.

[QUOTE=sgman91;44064667]Terrible source, all the links to the actual study are broken.[/QUOTE] It's just a bad link. Here it is. [url]http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/11/2/2125[/url]

Yeah this will happen if you're letting organophosphates pour into the water.

Clearly this means all GM food is bad not Monsanto is a fucking despicable company (pays off politicians, does crud studies/research/testing, etc, etc) and should be disbanded. I can guarantee people will be somehow using this as a reason against GM food.

Oh, great. This is just going to stir more anti-GMO shit from Facebook bohemians. They oughta be on a quest to shut down Monsanto, which is [I]Captain Planet[/I] levels of evil, but instead they'll target GMO's as a whole.

I'm not even surprised. Who would have thought the same company that made Agent Orange made another deadly chemical? It makes me laugh that people actually defend using poison to help 'protect' their crops from weeds when its only mutating the weeds into something far more dangerous. Not only that but Monsanto is notorious for paying of scientists, politicians, the FDA, etc. so how can you believe that the crops that are immune to Roundup are even safe to eat?

Monsanto needs to get fucked.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;44066821]Oh, great. This is just going to stir more anti-GMO shit from Facebook bohemians. They oughta be on a quest to shut down Monsanto, which is [I]Captain Planet[/I] levels of evil, but instead they'll target GMO's as a whole.[/QUOTE] Roundup is a herbicide not a GMO

[QUOTE=Zeke129;44070268]Roundup is a herbicide not a GMO[/QUOTE] The two are closely related as far as farming is concerned, but again roundup can just be used on your driveway as much as it can be used to spray entire fields. Thanks to something called "Natural selection" roundup is a self supplying snowball effect. Weeds have needed higher doses of roundup due to newly developed resistance.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;44070268]Roundup is a herbicide not a GMO[/QUOTE] Believe me, I know! Unfortunately, I doubt that distinction will have any bearing on the reactions of "health-conscious" Midwestern soccer moms.

Like seriously. If you inhale any form of pesticide or herbicide you'll fucking get internal organ damage. Farmers in industrial farming societies use filtration systems when they use it or they do it out of dusters. These guys can't afford it and inhale it all the time, thus leading to kidney damage and such.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;44070268]Roundup is a herbicide not a GMO[/QUOTE] monsanto has produced crops which are genetically engineered to be resistant to roundup though, but it's irrelevant as the herbicide has been around since before that [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundup_(herbicide)[/URL]

I feel like Roundup Resistance should be a stat in post apocalyptic games.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;44070268]Roundup is a herbicide not a GMO[/QUOTE] Well Monsanto sells Roundup resistant crops so the two are closely related. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44070902]Like seriously. If you inhale any form of pesticide or herbicide you'll fucking get internal organ damage. Farmers in industrial farming societies use filtration systems when they use it or they do it out of dusters. These guys can't afford it and inhale it all the time, thus leading to kidney damage and such.[/QUOTE] Depends on the dosage though, caffiene for example is a natural pesticide

Glyphosate is an organophosphorous weedkiller so it's really not nice to start with, and being exposed to it in any large amount will fuck you up pretty bad regardless. If used correctly the risk is very low, but if you've got a bunch of people using it without adequate protection they're gonna come to harm. Hardly Monsanto's fault. Also the article mentions arsenic and cadmium, which are also toxic, so if you're being regularly exposed to them through drinking water or ingesting fertiliser then your outlook isn't good anyway. Unfortunately there isn't anything you can do about hard groundwater, especially in poor areas, so a different herbicide would have to be used.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44071409]Well Monsanto sells Roundup resistant crops so the two are closely related. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] Depends on the dosage though, caffiene for example is a natural pesticide[/QUOTE] You don't spray and inhale caffeine though.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;44071274]I feel like Roundup Resistance should be a stat in post apocalyptic games.[/QUOTE] Well, if Monsanto gets [I]really serious[/I] about their campaign of evil, then it just might be!

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44071582]You don't spray and inhale caffeine though.[/QUOTE] You still drink/eat it so it still ends up in your body. All I'm saying is that pesticides/insecticides are dangerous in certain doses and not flat out dangerous.

Yeah. Though that's in high doses. Caffeine is in miligrams rather than fucking tanks :v:.

[quote]or metals like arsenic and cadmium that often exist naturally in the soil or are added via fertilizer[/quote] hmm perhaps heavy metals that are known to cause kidney damage plus massive increases in industrial runoffs in these areas couldn't possibly be responsible in any way

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;44071622]Yeah. Though that's in high doses. Caffeine is in miligrams rather than fucking tanks :v:.[/QUOTE] But caffeine kills insects with milligrams. Hell even less then that.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44071631]But caffeine kills insects with milligrams. Hell even less then that.[/QUOTE] Its all about the LD50 in mg/kg.

i remember reading something a while ago though that linked arsenic ingenstion in these same regions to the rice that they eat though, apparently asia has unusually high concentrations of arsenic in the soil

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44071631]But caffeine kills insects with milligrams. Hell even less then that.[/QUOTE] Nicotine has pretty similar properties to caffeine too. It's a biologically produced pesticide to protect plants, mainly tobacco, from pests. Humans are just so much larger than insects that we can consume caffeine and nicotine in doses that give us a buzz rather than killing us outright.

RT source on GMOs, ya totally unbiased....