US Republicans attempt to sabotage global climate change talks
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[url]http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/congress-moves-to-sabotage-the-paris-climate-summit[/url]
[quote]Don’t trust the United States: as the international climate summit in Paris grinds along, this is the message Republicans in Congress are trying to send the delegates. The logic, such as it is, of the claim is that merely by making it the House G.O.P. goes a long way toward proving its validity.
On Tuesday, at a news conference in Paris, President Barack Obama exhorted negotiators to keep in mind what is at stake at the summit. “This one trend—climate change—affects all trends,” Obama said. “This is an economic and security imperative that we have to tackle now.”
Even as he spoke, congressional Republicans were doing their best to undermine him. That same day, the House approved two resolutions aimed at blocking regulations to curb U.S. greenhouse-gas emissions. The first would bar the Environmental Protection Agency from enforcing rules aimed at cutting emissions from new power plants; the second would prevent the agency from enforcing rules targeted at existing power plants. Together, these rules are known as the Clean Power Plan, and they are crucial to the Americans’ negotiating position in Paris. (The Clean Power Plan is central to the United States’ pledge, made in advance of the summit, to cut its emissions by twenty-six per cent.) The House votes, which followed Senate approval of similar resolutions back in November, were, at least according to some members, explicitly aimed at subverting the talks. Lawmakers want to “send a message to the climate conference in Paris that in America, there’s serious disagreement with the policies of this president,” Ed Whitfield, a Kentucky Republican, explained.[/quote]
[url]http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/the-republican-attempt-to-derail-the-paris-climate-talks/418290/[/url]
[quote]Republicans are telegraphing a message to world leaders at the start of the Paris climate talks: President Obama is all alone.
To underscore that point, the U.S. House of Representatives voted on Tuesday to block regulations to rein in pollution from power plants, the cornerstone of the administration’s effort to tackle global warming.
The vote is largely symbolic, since the White House has vowed a veto that Republicans won’t be able to overturn. Yet it sends a clear signal: U.S. diplomats may be working to negotiate a global climate deal, but the president is acting without support from the majority of Congress. Conservatives aren’t missing any chance to point out that the president’s efforts to procure an agreement are far from secure.
“The next president could simply tear it up,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell proclaimed on the Senate floor on Monday, referring to the president's power plant regulations. “Governments currently engaged in this round of climate talks will want to know that there is more than just an Executive Branch in our system of government,” he added, noting that the climate agenda “may not even survive much longer anyway.”[/quote]
What a bunch of retards.
Christ, do these guys really not realize how fucking retarded they appear to the rest of the world?
"Obama's a crap president, should we try to help him be less crap?"
"FUCK NO, KEEP SABOTAGING HIM!"
"You're right, what was I thinking?!"
fuck republicans.
The only way to get the gop to cease dragging their heels on the issue, would to make preventing, reversing or minimizing climate change profitable. More profitable then oil. Do this and their behavior will switch quickly.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;49253316]Christ, do these guys really not realize how fucking retarded they appear to the rest of the world?[/QUOTE]
They know they are appearing that way, but that doesn't matter to them because their money makes them feel invincible to global climate effects.
How to prove that you are paid by a bunch of oil companies 101
[QUOTE=danjee;49253430]fuck republicans.[/QUOTE]
fuck you
hopefully someday these people will be held responsible for their crimes against humanity
All that money will be worthless when everyone is fucking dead.
[QUOTE=Inplabth;49253592]Just remember that it's not all republicans that are shit, some of them do believe that climate change is happening and that we should reduce CO2 emissions [[URL="http://environment.yale.edu/climate-communication/article/not-all-republicans-think-alike-about-global-warming/"]Source[/URL]]. Some of them are warming up (ha) to the idea that the environment is something we should protect. (Full disclosure, I'm not a republican voter myself)[/QUOTE]
people have a really huge problem with thinking "republican" and "conservative" are synonymous and its really hilarious, the generalizations that are made, because then they'll be quick to turn around and point out that certain other ideologies aren't bad, it's the INDIVIDUALS abusing it that make it look bad
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;49253600]All that money will be worthless when everyone is fucking dead.[/QUOTE]
Not when they've colonized mars with it
It's not a fucking agenda anymore, stop treating it as such. They did this with the Iran deal too, it only weakens the US to have our Republicans in Congress demand nothing be done
[QUOTE=SexyBeast70;49253551]fuck you[/QUOTE]
No, fuck every Republican in Congress who either supports this or is too timid to fight against the other crazies. The heard mentality in the republicans today is insane, even doctors and scientists in the party are dumbing themselves down to avoid being thrown out. It's antiamerican and antiscience what they are doing
[editline]5th December 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;49253724]Isn't that the point of a two party system?[/QUOTE]
No, its to work to get some of your goals, while negotiating with the other. The republicans want no power plant regulations, they want no emissions regulations, and they want no future for the country, we could have cities like China where they are all going to die of cancer in 20 years if they get their say, or we can do what we know works and reduce the power plant emissions so we don't have to live in smog
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;49253600]All that money will be worthless when everyone is fucking dead.[/QUOTE]
They'll die of old age long before humanity's downfall, so they don't give a shit.
[QUOTE=Sableye;49253741]No, fuck every Republican in Congress who either supports this or is too timid to fight against the other crazies. The heard mentality in the republicans today is insane, even doctors and scientists in the party are dumbing themselves down to avoid being thrown out. It's antiamerican and antiscience what they are doing
[editline]5th December 2015[/editline]
No, its to work to get some of your goals, while negotiating with the other. The republicans want no power plant regulations, they want no emissions regulations, and they want no future for the country, we could have cities like China where they are all going to die of cancer in 20 years if they get their say, or we can do what we know works and reduce the power plant emissions so we don't have to live in smog[/QUOTE]some democrats also voted against a few of the same things bill-wise
it's just easy to pull the "republican" card
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;49253553]hopefully someday these people will be held responsible for their crimes against humanity[/QUOTE]
What is "mass extinction"?
You can't deny climate change anymore, it's idiotic and immoral. Anyone can see the human race has a heavy impact on the planet.
[QUOTE=MissingNoGuy;49254758]some democrats also voted against a few of the same things bill-wise
it's just easy to pull the "republican" card[/QUOTE]
Because the Republican Party regularly speaks out against the authenticity of climate change, the Democratic Party does not.
[QUOTE=MissingNoGuy;49254758]some democrats also voted against a few of the same things bill-wise
it's just easy to pull the "republican" card[/QUOTE]
its fine if they disagree with the bill, but the republicans are voting against these things because they categorically ignore or outright deride the science behind the regulations. i am fine if they want to negotiate the actual effective limit, but thats not what the republican motivation is
[QUOTE=Sableye;49255139]its fine if they disagree with the bill, but the republicans are voting against these things because they categorically ignore or outright deride the science behind the regulations. i am fine if they want to negotiate the actual effective limit, but thats not what the republican motivation is[/QUOTE]
In fact the democrats can vote against the bill if they feel it doesn't do enough.
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;49253443]How to prove that you are paid by a bunch of oil companies 101[/QUOTE]
Dunno, the American system is set up in a way that gets the craziest people in power. Alot of them probably genuinely believe in climate change being BS.
[QUOTE=Craigewan;49253316]Christ, do these guys really not realize how fucking retarded they appear to the rest of the world?[/QUOTE]
I don't think they care
Remember when we had moderate republicans like John McCain who acknowledged climate change and proposed different plans for solving it like nuclear
this is what we've come to
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;49253600]All that money will be worthless when everyone is fucking dead.[/QUOTE]
They'll be dead long before the worst hits,that's why they gotta get extra dickery done now.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49255390]Remember when we had moderate republicans like John McCain who acknowledged climate change and proposed different plans for solving it like nuclear
this is what we've come to[/QUOTE]
The moderates today say we can't do anything so we shouldn't do anything which is fucking pathetic because they also believe in American exceptionalism and if you truly believe America can overcome any challenge then work towards the solutions that are agreeable for both sides
If they aren't using the vote to raise the debt ceiling to hold democracy hostage, they're sabotaging it instead. What a bunch of idiots. A bunch of self-serving, ruler rather than servant, fucktards. Making 200k a year off our backs, and only work 150 days a year. Though the way they act, I wish they worked less
Sometimes I wish we were a dictatorship
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;49255390]Remember when we had moderate republicans like John McCain who acknowledged climate change and proposed different plans for solving it like nuclear
this is what we've come to[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure Chris Christie has a similar view.
It sucks now that it seems most republican candidates have maybe one redeeming quality, but their bad qualities all far outweigh the good ones. And they've gotta pick one to represent them all, even though they all hate each other. I miss the mid-2000s when Republicans were just rich capitalist assholes without all the zealous Christianity
I keep thinking back to politicians of the 30's and 40's and how they never got [I]this[/I] stupid, and how pissed FDR or Truman would be if they saw this shit
God damn, is there no fixing the country?
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