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Funerals have taken place in Kabul for victims of Saturday's suicide bomb attack claimed by so-called Islamic State (IS), which killed 80 people.
Bodies were still being collected from morgues as the first burials were conducted in the west of the city.
The bomber targeted a protest march by members of the Hazara minority, Shia Muslims reviled by IS, a Sunni group.
President Ashraf Ghani has led prayers for the dead and Afghanistan is observing a day of national mourning.
Some families were still searching for missing relatives on Sunday, gathering outside hospitals to read the names posted on the walls, and checking morgues.
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The government banned all public gatherings and demonstrations for 10 days after Saturday's attack, which also wounded at least 230 people.
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The UN mission in Afghanistan described the attack as a "war crime".
The Hazaras, who live mainly in the centre of the country, have long complained of discrimination. During Taliban rule in the late 1990s, many of them fled to Pakistan, Iran and Tajikistan.
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You know IS is bad when the Taliban are condemning their attacks.
I feel awful for the Hazaras and Afghans in general. Ever since the Afghan-Russian War things have been deplorable over there.
yeah but this is in the middle east so no one cares
[QUOTE=ccg;50771006]yeah but this is in the middle east so no one cares[/QUOTE]
i care. rip to all them.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50770986]You know IS is bad when the Taliban are condemning their attacks.[/QUOTE]
The Talibobs hate everything about the IS. Condemned and declared them war pretty much from day one, much like most other 'classic' militant islamic groups did.
OP, I noticed all your previous threads, you leave the title as 'Terror attack'
I know you're trying to get more attention to such incidents but it doesn't really help
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[QUOTE=ccg;50771006]yeah but this is in the middle east so no one cares[/QUOTE]
Maybe it's time to reform Islam? It's getting worse and worse.
[editline]25th July 2016[/editline]
Btw, I don't wish terror attacks to anyone, don't get my post wrong.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;50770986]You know IS is bad when the Taliban are condemning their attacks.
I feel awful for the Hazaras and Afghans in general. Ever since the Afghan-Russian War things have been deplorable over there.[/QUOTE]
Afghanistan's been fucked up by other countries for a lot longer than that.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;50771095]OP, I noticed all your previous threads, you leave the title as 'Terror attack'
I know you're trying to get more attention to such incidents but it doesn't really help
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If people see Iraq or Afghanistan in the title they'll approach it differently than if they see "terror attack in the US". Leaving the location out puts them on even ground for first impressions.
[QUOTE=ccg;50771006]yeah but this is in the middle east so no one cares[/QUOTE]
To be honest it's kind of expected there, and you can't deny that a terror attack in Europe is more impactful to the majority of people on websites such as these. Not to say that these attacks don't matter.
[QUOTE=ccg;50771006]yeah but this is in the middle east so no one cares[/QUOTE]
Afghanistan isn't even in the middle east. Is Libya in the middle east too?
[QUOTE=Fourier;50771098]Maybe it's time to reform Islam? It's getting worse and worse.
[editline]25th July 2016[/editline]
Btw, I don't wish terror attacks to anyone, don't get my post wrong.[/QUOTE]
Theres been a few ideas kicked around about using Sufiism to combat people exploiting islam for political means. Ultimately the issue (violence and terrorism) isn't with Islam (there are issues with Islam: conservatism, sexism, homophobia, fundimentalism and there are issues with the cultures in some of those countries eg child abuse in afghanistan, child marriages and FGM) but is the political and socioeconomic situation which is the motive, consider Islam as more of a means.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50771125]If people see Iraq or Afghanistan in the title they'll approach it differently than if they see "terror attack in the US". Leaving the location out puts them on even ground for first impressions.[/QUOTE]
It's still a sensationalist title, don't do it.
[QUOTE=joost1120;50771214]It's still a sensationalist title, don't do it.[/QUOTE]
"Yeah its sensationalist because it gives me the impression the attack happens in a country that matters"
this is basically what you are saying
[QUOTE=joost1120;50771214]It's still a sensationalist title, don't do it.[/QUOTE]
it's not sensationalist
[QUOTE=joost1120;50771214]It's still a sensationalist title, don't do it.[/QUOTE]
Ah, but it caught your attention and made you realise that these types of attacks are not specific to the West, no?
ISIS is an enemy of all, not just Western people. Many of the xenophobes (I'm not calling you that by the way, but we certainly have a few around) don't seem to get that Muslims are being targeted too - because that doesn't fit with their 'narrative.'
It's always great to remind them they're idiots and wrong.
Perhaps sensationalist was the wrong word, but it's a very undescriptive title. It's like a title saying : "Food shortage kills thousands", while the article is about the total amount of people that died of starvation in the past 50 years.
It's a very undescriptive title, and pretty much clickbait. You have to read the article to actually know what is happening.
[QUOTE=joost1120;50771258]Perhaps sensationalist was the wrong word, but it's a very undescriptive title. It's like a title saying : "Food shortage kills thousands", [b]while the article is about the total amount of people that died of starvation in the past 50 years.[/b]
It's a very undescriptive title, and pretty much clickbait. [b]You have to read the article to actually know what is happening.[/b][/QUOTE]
Well you didn't read the article because that's 80 dying in 1 attack.
The other thread about the attacks in Iraq, I decided to make just 1 thread instead of 2 because people have been banned in the past for making too many.
[QUOTE=ccg;50771006]yeah but this is in the middle east so no one cares[/QUOTE]
Can a mod delete this thread plz? apparently nobody cares. stop posting everyone, nobody cares.
You are an idiot for saying that, ofcourse people care... this are human beings with moms and dads and kids. if they didnt then why do i keep being pestered with OMG NOBODY CARES' posts on face book about each and every attack that happens outside of the west... and now here too.
people care, but apparently its popular to claim people dont and that says more about the people claiming nobody cares then about the people that just in general are not interested in the middle eastern news or world news in general and react a tad aloof to this kind of news.
Dont get me wrong, some people will never care... some people will care about attacks in france because they went to france that one day, some people will never care because 'fucking towelheads all need more bombing'. My point is you can say that about everything... there will always be people caring and not caring about anything for various reasons... as a final example, the attacks in France did not even make all national newspapers in Saudi Arabia... and the ones that did mention it were on some hidden away page nobody gave a fuck about.
tl;dr if i was a trigger happy facepunch admin you would be banned with a 'why post?' bullshit ban reason by now.
[QUOTE=ccg;50771006]yeah but this is in the middle east so no one cares[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50771270]Can a mod delete this thread plz? apparently nobody cares. stop posting everyone, nobody cares.
You are an idiot for saying that, ofcourse people care...[/QUOTE]
I could be wrong but I think he was being deliberately sarcastic to point out the media's lopsided coverage of terror attacks
It's a good title.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;50771528]It's a good title.[/QUOTE]
It's really not. It carries very little information and it's intentionally left out to cause more shock.
[QUOTE=mcharest;50771511]I could be wrong but I think he was being deliberately sarcastic to point out the media's lopsided coverage of terror attacks[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I guess it's my fault for thinking sarcasm transfers well over the internet.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50771133]Afghanistan isn't even in the middle east. Is Libya in the middle east too?[/QUOTE]
Not unless northern Africa counts as the Middle East.
[QUOTE=Viper123_SWE;50771754]Not unless northern Africa counts as the Middle East.[/QUOTE]
I would count Libya as the Middle East as they are usually grouped together as MENA due to their cultural similarities and common Arab and Muslim heritage making them far more similar to each other than North Africa is to Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East to the rest of Asia.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50771788]I would count Libya as the Middle East as they are usually grouped together as MENA due to their cultural similarities and common Arab and Muslim heritage making them far more similar to each other than North Africa is to Sub-Saharan Africa and the Middle East to the rest of Asia.[/QUOTE]
Lybia isn't Middle East, it's North Africa
Geography isn't an opinion
[QUOTE=jiggu;50771652]It's really not. It carries very little information and it's intentionally left out to cause more shock.[/QUOTE]
If the addition of more information (i.e: where the attack happens) produces "less shock" then we have a problem.
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;50771803]Lybia isn't Middle East, it's North Africa
Geography isn't an opinion[/QUOTE]
But Geography isn't relevant to anything, really. Continents don't even have a formal, proper definition. As such, we divide them not only by geography, but also common culture. That's why Europe is separate from Afro-Eurasia, the Middle East gets its own section, and North and South America are often separated. This is because continents are used to define not only a common geographical area, but also have cultural signifiers. As such, due to the lack of a hard definition of 'continent', geography in this case is very much an opinion
[QUOTE=Flameon;50771817]If the addition of more information (i.e: where the attack happens) produces "less shock" then we have a problem.[/QUOTE]
Well since it's not a Western country some people won't care as much
[editline]25th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;50771830]But Geography isn't relevant to anything, really. Continents don't even have a formal, proper definition. As such, we divide them not only by geography, but also common culture. That's why Europe is separate from Afro-Eurasia, the Middle East gets its own section, and North and South America are often separated. This is because continents are used to define not only a common geographical area, but also have cultural signifiers. As such, due to the lack of a hard definition of 'continent', geography in this case is very much an opinion[/QUOTE]
But the Middle East only goes so far as Egypt, therefore Libya isn't
[QUOTE=SebiWarrior;50771832]Well since it's not a Western country some people won't care as much
[editline]25th July 2016[/editline]
But the Middle East only goes so far as Egypt, therefore Libya isn't[/QUOTE]
Why isn't Egypt in Africa by your logic? You just basically admitted that continents are used as cultural as well as geographical terms, so why not extend the Middle East region by simply referring it to MENA?
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