North Korean murder suspects go home with victim's body as Malaysia forced to swap - Polidicks

[quote]KUALA LUMPUR: Three North Koreans wanted for questioning over the murder of the estranged half-brother of their country's leader were believed on their way home along with the body of Kim Jong Nam on Friday after Malaysia agreed a swap deal with the reclusive state. Television footage obtained by Reuters from Japanese media showed Hyon Kwang Song, the second secretary at the North Korean embassy in Kuala Lumpur, and Kim Uk Il, a North Korean state airline employee on the flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on Thursday evening. Though there was no official confirmation of their departure the men were identifiable from handouts released by the Malaysian police during their investigation. Japanese broadcaster TBS also filmed what was believed to be the casket containing Kim Jong Nam's remains being loaded onto the same flight, though this was not confirmed by authorities either. Malaysian media reported that a third North Korean, Ri Ji U, also known as James, who had been hiding with them at the North Korean embassy in Kuala Lumpur was also allowed to go home. The North Koreans and the casket were expected to be transferred to a flight from Beijing to Pyongyang on Friday. Malaysian authorities released Kim's body on Thursday, in a deal that secured the release of nine Malaysian citizens held in Pyongyang after a drawn out diplomatic spat. Kim Jong Nam, who had been living in exile for several years, was killed at Kuala Lumpur's airport on Feb.13 in a bizarre assassination using VX nerve agent, a chemical so lethal that it is on a U.N. list of weapons of mass destruction. Malaysian prosecutors have charged two women - an Indonesian and a Vietnamese - with killing him, but they are regarded by South Korean and U.S. officials as pawns in an operation carried out by North Korean agents. North Korea's young leader, Kim Jong Un, had issued a "standing order" for his elder half-brother's assassination, according to some South Korean lawmakers, and there was a failed attempt on his life in 2012. Malaysian police had named eight North Koreans they wanted to question in the case, including the three believed to have been given safe passage to leave Malaysia. Of the others, police believe four fled Malaysia on the same day as the murder and another was held for a week before being released due to insufficient evidence. Angered by the probe North Korea slammed a travel ban on Malaysians, trapping three diplomats and six family members - including four children - in Pyongyang. Malaysia, which had previously friendly ties with the unpredictable nuclear-armed state, responded with a ban of its own, but was left with little option but to accede to North Korea's demands for the return of the body and safe passage for the three nationals hiding in the embassy. "CLEAR WINNER" Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak , who is currently on an official visit in India, issued a statement announcing the return of the body, but did not mention Kim by name. "Following the completion of the autopsy on the deceased and receipt of a letter from his family requesting the remains be returned to North Korea, the coroner has approved the release of the body," Najib said, adding that the murder investigation would continue. North Korea has maintained that the dead man is not Kim Jong Nam and that the body is that of Kim Chol, the name given in a passport found on the victim. Najib's statement did not mention the safe passage given to the North Koreans that police had wanted to question, but it did say the travel ban on North Koreans leaving Malaysia had been lifted. North Korea also released a statement saying both countries managed to "resolve issues arising from the death of a DPRK national." The swap agreement brings to an end nearly seven weeks of diplomatic standoff, with Pyongyang finally getting its way, analysts said. "It is a win (for North Korea), clearly,” Andrei Lankov, North Korea expert at Seoul’s Kookmin University said on the swap deal. "I presume the Malaysians decided not to get too involved in a remote country's palace intrigues, and wanted their hostages back."[/quote] [url]http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/north-korean-murder-suspects-go-home-with-victim-s-body-as-malay/3641272.html[/url] Again, North Korea wins via blackmail.

One the one hand it's shitty that they gave into demands, but on the other hand essentially the only move they had left was war, as far as I an tell. At-least hte hostages will come home.

Well this puts to rest any doubt that it was the North Koreans who did it, despite their denial.

Utterly disgusting how they're gonna get away with this.

So they will just get away with it then and maybe get some more sanctions which does nothing. All they are going to do is continue pushing the boundaries and developing their nuclear capabilities until its too late. The world doesnt learn from history at all.

[QUOTE=orcywoo6;52036787]So they will just get away with it then and maybe get some more sanctions which does nothing. All they are going to do is continue pushing the boundaries and developing their nuclear capabilities until its too late. The world doesnt learn from history at all.[/QUOTE] Out of curiosity, what do you suggest we do? Drop two nukes on their cities after sending them a notice that they're going to be bombed? After all, that made Japan surrender, nevermind the civilian casualties or anything.

[QUOTE=gk99;52036936]Out of curiosity, what do you suggest we do? Drop two nukes on their cities after sending them a notice that they're going to be bombed? After all, that made Japan surrender, nevermind the civilian casualties or anything.[/QUOTE] I'm sure you're joking but even in reality, if you sent them a notice that you would nuke them, the fat man would probably flee while ordering his loyal army to shell the everloving fuck out of South Korea, leaving his own glorious people to their deaths.

[QUOTE=gk99;52036936]Out of curiosity, what do you suggest we do? Drop two nukes on their cities after sending them a notice that they're going to be bombed? After all, that made Japan surrender, nevermind the civilian casualties or anything.[/QUOTE] Why send him a notice? Just drop the damn nukes.

[QUOTE=Zufeng;52037039]Why send him a notice? Just drop the damn nukes.[/QUOTE] I'm glad you're not dealing in international politics.

[QUOTE=orcywoo6;52036787]So they will just get away with it then and maybe get some more sanctions which does nothing. All they are going to do is continue pushing the boundaries and developing their nuclear capabilities until its too late. The world doesnt learn from history at all.[/QUOTE] What history are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Zufeng;52037039]Why send him a notice? Just drop the damn nukes.[/QUOTE] yeah, fuck innocents right, pffft what even is collateral damage, at least we fried azn hitler (Nukes are never an option.)

[QUOTE=Kahgarak;52037080]yeah, fuck innocents right, pffft what even is collateral damage, at least we fried azn hitler (Nukes are never an option.)[/QUOTE] well no, but this is an extremely complicated issue. there is no right or wrong action. Something has to be done, this wasteland of a country has MASSIVE military presence (relative to size of country). Also this same country thats trying to produce and has basically succeeded in producing nuclear warheads, war is almost eventual with this country. Sanctions would do nothing as they have become self sufficient and the UN saying "stop that" is basically answered with a "fuck you I do what I want". Edit: To clarify I'm not saying nuke'em. I'm saying aggressive action is most likely the only answer now since the world has let this "family" of dictators run way to long and they have gained a massive ego. They have the power to press a button and change how the whole eastern asian countries live and work. And he's nuts.

[QUOTE=snookypookums;52036960]I'm sure you're joking but even in reality, if you sent them a notice that you would nuke them, the fat man would probably flee while ordering his loyal army to shell the everloving fuck out of South Korea, leaving his own glorious people to their deaths.[/QUOTE] Flee to where, exactly? China probably will hold him, but definitely not forever. Russia would not touch that hot potato. Vietnam is too far south, and everywhere else he would probably be shot on sight.