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Jermane drowned in a bath
[quote]A five-year-old girl in the US has allegedly told police she purposely drowned an 18-month-old boy in a bathtub because he "cried too much".
It is alleged the girl dragged Jermane Johnson Junior into the bathroom at a relative’s house in Kansas City and forced him into the tub, which had been left full of water, in a bid to silence him.
Police said the two children, and several others, had been left in the care of a 16-year-old girl who had mental disabilities, the Kansas City Star newspaper reports.
The incident happened on Saturday when no adults were present at the house, where the baby boy had reportedly been staying for the past two weeks.
Police initially thought Jermane had drowned accidentally until the five-year-old allegedly told them she did it on purpose.
The girl allegedly said she drowned Jermane because he "made too much noise" and "cried too much".
Authorities at the Jackson County Family Court have questioned whether she has the mental capacity to understand the permanence of death and could be charged with homicide.
"The mind of a five-year-old is not really capable of formalising intent for homicide," juvenile officer Mary Marquez said.
Jermane's father had been travelling from St Louis to pick him up and take him home the day he died.
On his Facebook page, Jermane Johnson Senior wrote: "I just got to ask the hardest question that no parent should never answer. What kind of caskets do I want to put my son in."[/quote]
Source: [url]http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8259655/five-year-old-girl-allegedly-drowns-18-month-old[/url]
:wtc:
Do...do we arrest her?
I'm pretty sure she knew what she was doing. However, she's so young. I don't know what an appropriate punishment would be. Personally, if I were the parent I would've backhanded that bitch so hard I'd break her neck. And that's why I'm never having children.
[quote]left in the care of a 16-year-old girl who had mental disabilities[/quote]
:smith:
If I was the parent I would put her up for adoption.
if the kid is thinking this way now, when she gets older she's probably going to cut people's heads off for putting too much pepper on her salad
If I remember correctly, children are able to differentiate, to a basic degree, right and wrong at a younger age than 5.
However, you can't really throw the girl in prison.
Even if she lacks the mental capacity to realize that what she did was wrong and that people can't be brought back from the dead, she still needs some kind of erm... Help of some sort.
She's 5. She couldn't have possibly done this with the intent to "kill" the toddler.
Stupid iPod.
[editline]9th June 2011[/editline]
Thanks for breaking my automerge. :gonk:
it's tragic but I don't think the 5-year old girl can/should be charged with a crime
When she gets older imagine how much this will screw with her.
Like, at this point she's very young so she's gonna grow up with knowledge that she did this in an exceptional view, as just a normal bad thing she did. And then one day it's going to hit her, and it's going to suck.
[QUOTE=TheGronk;30363462]Police said the two children, and several others, had been left in the care of a [b]16-year-old[/b] girl who [b]had mental disabilities[/b], the Kansas City Star newspaper reports. [/QUOTE]
Well there's your problem.
She may have had the intent to silence the baby but you don't even understand killing at 5 years old so saying that she had the intent to kill the toddler is wrong.
I always have imagined drowning as a horrible way to die.
[QUOTE=Edgar Allan Poe;30363754]I always have imagined drowning as a horrible way to die.[/QUOTE]
I've actually heard its relatively peaceful.
[QUOTE=Edgar Allan Poe;30363754]I always have imagined drowning as a horrible way to die.[/QUOTE]
because it is...
[QUOTE=Edgar Allan Poe;30363754]I always have imagined drowning as a horrible way to die.[/QUOTE]
I drowned and CPR saved me. Which is basically dying and being brought back to life.
I didn't feel anything, you just choke on some water and you stop breathing. My nose and throat hurt afterwards.
A sad series of events, but really the girl is five years old.
She doesn't quite have a mature brain and kids do some strange things when they are at this stage of development.
[QUOTE=bopie;30363804]I've actually heard its relatively peaceful.[/QUOTE]
you know someone who drowned who told you this or
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I don't know I'd be panicked.
[QUOTE=XanKriegor;30363487]I'm pretty sure she knew what she was doing. However, she's so young. I don't know what an appropriate punishment would be. Personally, if I were the parent I would've backhanded that bitch so hard I'd break her neck. And that's why I'm never having children.[/QUOTE]
What do people have against children? Why does no one want them? I love kids. :frown:
[QUOTE=keyfuzz;30363987]What do people have against children? Why does no one want them? I love kids. :frown:[/QUOTE]
They're money leeching little parasite shitheads that do nothing but deprive you of every single resource you have, including sleep, tacking problems onto problems you already are having in your life, and if you're REALLY lucky ~20 years after that horrible experience called birth (which could potentially kill the mother) your child won't hate you and will give you financial or physical help.
[QUOTE=silentjubjub;30363928]you know someone who drowned who told you this or
[editline]9th June 2011[/editline]
I don't know I'd be panicked.[/QUOTE]
Before the euphoria set in. But at that point you're already dead.
If I don't make it rich in this life, I'm going to make damn sure that my kid will. I wish my parents put me into acting lessons etcetc when I was a kid. I got put into ice skating because my dad wanted me to go into the NHL. Unfortunately I decided to quit at a young age because my initial coach moved to Toronto and shit was never the same.
I really regret quitting because I love Hockey, and I'm really good at it, other than ice skating of course.. And it really sucks to see all my friends playing in AAA hockey and some of them making it into the WHL which is a league or two before the NHL, just thinking that could be me.. it sucks. Any who, kinda off topic.. This is a really unfortunate event that didn't really need to happen, sucks they had that mentally handicapped 16 year old looking after them.
[QUOTE=XanKriegor;30364019]They're money leeching little parasite shitheads that do nothing but deprive you of every single resource you have, including sleep, tacking problems onto problems you already are having in your life, and if you're REALLY lucky ~20 years after that horrible experience called birth (which could potentially kill the mother) your child won't hate you and will give you financial or physical help.[/QUOTE]
You're either still a teenager or a very selfish person.
Euthanize it :smug:
[QUOTE=XanKriegor;30364019]They're money leeching little parasite shitheads that do nothing but deprive you of every single resource you have, including sleep, tacking problems onto problems you already are having in your life, and if you're REALLY lucky ~20 years after that horrible experience called birth (which could potentially kill the mother) your child won't hate you and will give you financial or physical help.[/QUOTE]
-They're money leeching little parasite shitheads
Everything takes money. If you raise them properly, they're not shitheads.
-Deprive you of every single resource you have
Exaggeration.
-If you're REALLY lucky ~20 years after that horrible experience called birth (which could potentially kill the mother) your child won't hate you and will give you financial or physical help.
Wow, you must've or must live in a terribly dysfunctional family. Why would the kids hate you? And you're sounding like something you hate. You're saying that if you're lucky they will give you financial help. So, the child is lucky if [i]you[/i] give them financial help.
That's cute but no one really knows how to raise a child. There's no manual you can pull out of your ass and flip to a chapter on how to raise your child to be an intelligent gentle man/woman who gets into no trouble. They're not furbies. The majority of everyone who has a child thinks they're raising their child in the most perfect way possible. And it's not exactly a perfect world you're living in, is it?
[QUOTE=STeel;30363723]She may have had the intent to silence the baby but you don't even understand killing at 5 years old so saying that she had the intent to kill the toddler is wrong.[/QUOTE]
I fully understood what it meant to be dead when I was four after the loss of my uncle. Once I realized he was gone for good, the stark reality of being dead hit me hard.
[QUOTE=teh pirate;30364373]I fully understood what it meant to be dead when I was four after the loss of my uncle. Once I realized he was gone for good, the stark reality of being dead hit me hard.[/QUOTE]
yeah and I bet her uncle died as well, so she understood!!
Your never too old or too young to murder somebody.
I hate how people say she has no ability to comprehend what she did--but how the hell do we know whats going on in her head? -__-
(I knew the definition of killing and it being bad by 6. <.<)
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