Axelrod: Romney’s 'brazenness' at debate surprised Obama (CNN)

[Glaber]

Axelrod: Romney’s 'brazenness' at debate surprised Obama
CNN
[quote]Obama campaign senior adviser David Axelrod said Sunday that President Barack Obama was “taken aback at the brazenness” of Mitt Romney’s departure from his past positions during their first debate. The Obama campaign will adjust accordingly for the next debate, he said.

“I think he was a little taken aback at the brazenness with which Gov. Romney walked away from so many of the positions on which he's run, walked away from his record,” Axelrod said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” He said the positions Romney took during Wednesday’s debate were “uprooted” from the Republican candidate’s previous positions.

“That's something we’re going to have to make an adjustment for in these subsequent debates.”

“What happened was the president showed up with the intent of answering questions and having a discussion, an honest discussion about where we go as a country,” Axelrod said, though conceding that Romney had performed well.

Axelrod said Romney was dishonest during the debate, pointing to a contentious charge Obama waged Wednesday evening about his opponent’s tax plan involving $5 trillion in cuts for the wealthy - a claim CNN has rated as false.

“When he said he never proposed $5 trillion in tax cuts, that was dishonest,” said Axelrod, stopping short of saying the Republican challenger lied during the debate. “I'm saying that he was dishonest in his answers. You can characterize that any way you want.”

Republicans have pushed back on the president’s claim about $5 trillion in tax cuts, with Romney's team releasing an ad Sunday challenging the president's attacks and asserting the GOP nominee's tax plan would not add to the deficit.

Romney has said that his tax plan would close loopholes, though he has not specified which ones, and increase economic activity, resulting in increased federal government revenues.

Much to Democrats’ dismay, Obama did not use the proven-effective attack line about his opponent’s now-infamous “47%” comments. Axelrod explained that Obama didn’t see an “appropriate opportunity” to level the charge.

“The president was earnestly trying to answer questions that were asked on the topics that were being discussed, and he didn’t find the opportunity to raise it. And it’s obviously well known,” Axelrod said.

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, a Democrat, also said Sunday that Romney was being dishonest during the first debate, but predicted that Obama would refute the GOP nominee’s claims and hammer home his own message in the next two presidential debates.

“I've never run for president, but you know, you have to decide - do you want to spend all your time, all night long, refuting someone's lies about your record or even about their own?” Nutter said on CNN’s "State of the Union.”[/quote]
Source: [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/07/axelrod-romneys-brazenness-at-debate-surprised-obama/?hpt=hp_t2[/url]

[1239the]

Tactical flipflopping.

[Strongbad]

[QUOTE=1239the;37954114]Tactical flipflopping.[/QUOTE]

[JoeJohns]

Still can't take you seriously with that title

[Daniel Smith]

[QUOTE=1239the;37954114]Tactical flipflopping.[/QUOTE]

[swebonny]

Hey guys stop before Starplucks drops a nuke again.

[Repulsion]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;37954166]Tacti[b]cool[/b] flipflopping.[/QUOTE]

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[BusterBluth]

[QUOTE=1239the;37954114]Factical flipflopping.[/QUOTE]

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[lavacano]

[QUOTE=1239the;37954114]Bandwagoning[/QUOTE]

[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Was warbed" - Starpluck))[/highlight]

[Scoops]

[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;37954141]Still can't take you seriously with that title[/QUOTE]

Even if he didn't have that title I wouldn't be able to take him seriously.

[HumanAbyss]

Thank you for proving what a shitty person Mitt is Glaber, simply put, he's a flip flopping, no spine and "brazenly walking away" from a set of platforms he's walked away from and right the fuck back to them just so he could walk away again when he finds it hard to support a particular position that day.

[Elecbullet]

That's no fair, you didn't even warb these guys.

[Glaber]

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;37954275]Thank you for proving what a shitty person Mitt is Glaber, simply put, he's a flip flopping, no spine and "brazenly walking away" from a set of platforms he's walked away from and right the fuck back to them just so he could walk away again when he finds it hard to support a particular position that day.[/QUOTE]

while that may be what you got from the article, here's what I got from it. To me, the article was basically saying the Obama was surprised that the Romney he faced was not the Romney he thought he and the Democrat Party was telling everyone about.

The article also mentioned that Obama was wrong about the $5Trillion dollar tax cut and that Obama didn't refute anything. Even if you opponent is lying,to not refute a singe one in combination with body language that makes you look disinterested or wanting to be anywhere else is to make it look like he's not lying.

[Ray-The-Sun]

[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;37954141]Still can't take you seriously with that title[/QUOTE]
Wait, you think it's the title and not the fact that he's practically a living caricature?

[Van-man]

[QUOTE=Glaber;37954513]while that may be what you got from the article, here's what I got from it. To me, the article was basically saying the Obama was surprised that the Romney he faced was not the Romney he thought he and the Democrat Party was telling everyone about.

The article also mentioned that Obama was wrong about the $5Trillion dollar tax cut and that Obama didn't refute anything. Even if you opponent is lying,to not refute a singe one in combination with body language that makes you look disinterested or wanting to be anywhere else is to make it look like he's not lying.[/QUOTE]

Oh great, his personality flip-flops too?
Normally people would recieve mental help in such case.

[OpethRockr55]

[QUOTE=Glaber;37954513]while that may be what you got from the article, here's what I got from it. To me, the article was basically saying the Obama was surprised that the Romney he faced was not the Romney he thought he and the Democrat Party was telling everyone about.

The article also mentioned that Obama was wrong about the $5Trillion dollar tax cut and that Obama didn't refute anything. Even if you opponent is lying,to not refute a singe one in combination with body language that makes you look disinterested or wanting to be anywhere else is to make it look like he's not lying.[/QUOTE]

You misread that $5 Trillion remark. Obama waged the accusation, Romney refuted it. Romney's refutation was found to have been dishonest, not Obama's accusation.

[HumanAbyss]

[QUOTE=Glaber;37954513]while that may be what you got from the article, here's what I got from it. To me, the article was basically saying [B]the Obama[/B] was surprised that the Romney he faced was not the Romney he thought he and the Democrat Party was telling everyone about.

The article also mentioned that Obama was wrong about the $5Trillion dollar tax cut and that Obama didn't refute anything. Even if you opponent is lying,to not refute a singe one in combination with body language that makes you look disinterested or wanting to be anywhere else is to make it look like he's not lying.[/QUOTE]

So... You have nothing of value to say, but all the words you don't need today it I see. I also bet, any politician so versed in the art of flip floppery will no doubt be able to control his facial expressions(you know, acting, half of what politics is).

Also, even if Obama was "disinterested" it likely has to do with the same reason I, and others were similarly disinterested. Namely, the second we hear that he's starting to flip flop on his old positions, he's just done exactly what he always does. More meaningless dribble.

I also chuckled at the bolded.

[Used Car Salesm]

You're late Glaber, we already stopped talking about Romney's supposed victory when the jobs numbers came out and showed the economy IS getting better under Obama's policies.

[Intenso]

[QUOTE=lavacano;37954224][highlight](User was banned for this post ("Was warbed" - Starpluck))[/highlight][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Repulsion;37954183][highlight](User was banned for this post ("Was warbed" - Starpluck))[/highlight][/QUOTE]

srsly u guys u were warbed cmonn!!

[HumanAbyss]

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;37955029]You're late Glaber, we already stopped talking about Romney's supposed victory when the jobs numbers came out and showed the economy IS getting better under Obama's policies.[/QUOTE]

But fox news and Rush said the opposite, liberal medias lying to you obviously

[CommunistCookie]

[QUOTE=Glaber;37954513]while that may be what you got from the article, here's what I got from it. To me, the article was basically saying the Obama was surprised that the Romney he faced was not the Romney he thought he and the Democrat Party was telling everyone about.

The article also mentioned that Obama was wrong about the $5Trillion dollar tax cut and that Obama didn't refute anything. Even if you opponent is lying,to not refute a singe one in combination with body language that makes you look disinterested or wanting to be anywhere else is to make it look like he's not lying.[/QUOTE]

Mind elaborating on how the $5t tax cut claim is false (the article didn't)? He promised 20% tax cut as well as a few others that lead up to that figure over ten years without giving any specifics as to how he plans to make up for lost revenue (other than Big Bird, of course).

[Glaber]

[QUOTE=CommunistCookie;37955230]Mind elaborating on how the $5t tax cut claim is false (the article didn't)? He promised 20% tax cut as well as a few others that lead up to that figure over ten years without giving any specifics as to how he plans to make up for lost revenue (other than Big Bird, of course).[/QUOTE]

have a CNN Video link
[url]http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/10/04/exp-fact-check---velshi-tax-cuts.cnn[/url]

[Lazor]

[QUOTE=Glaber;37955560]have a CNN Video link
[url]http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/10/04/exp-fact-check---velshi-tax-cuts.cnn[/url][/QUOTE]

wow what a shitty fact check

"Romney's 20% tax cut isn't a $5 trillion tax cut because Romney says so"

[Splarg]

[QUOTE=Lazor;37956038]wow what a shitty fact check

"Romney's 20% tax cut isn't a $5 trillion tax cut because Romney says so"[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter what time frame we're talking about. The argument is basically "hey this technically doesn't work now but we promise the same theory that we've been bullshitting everyone with for years will fix it."

[Zenreon]

[QUOTE=1239the;37954114]Tactical flipflopping.[/QUOTE]

My impression of him:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PePW16KOCwM[/media]

Also relevant

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCRwi71_ns&feature=g-all-u[/media]

[redBadger]

[QUOTE=1239the;37954114]Tactical flipflopping.[/QUOTE]

the only thing flopping was Obama during that debate.

[imptastick2]

Reminds me of this video going around facebook...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgfzknYd20[/media]

[Awaken90125]

[QUOTE=imptastick;37964554]Reminds me of this video going around facebook...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgfzknYd20[/media][/QUOTE]

Holy shit, he flipflops more than a magikarp on that pokemon stadium minigame

[HumanAbyss]

[QUOTE=redBadger;37961807]the only thing flopping was Obama during that debate.[/QUOTE]

Could you back this up in some sense? Cause you're speaking out your ass with no evidence of that right now