How much physical data makes up a person and teleportation - General

I'm talking to a friend about the possibilities of teleportation sometime in the far future, and I began wondering. There are a few different ways to go about teleportation, one is moving space/time around the person or object so relative to the object/person, it would take an instant to travel from point A to point B. The other option would be 'capturing' the atomic state of the object/individual, but this brings up a whole bunch of questions. The first one is obvious: how would we "scan" the atomic state of an object or person? By that I mean capture the [I]exact[/I] point of space each atom is relative to the other atoms. For biological matter such as a human, data for electrons would need to be recorded too (since many biological process depend on the movement of electrons, a la metabolism/Krebs cycle, flow of ions in the nervous system, etc) which is mathematically is impossible (Heisenberg), or at least currently. The question would be how much data would this take? I mean, hell, for a 70kg human, there would be approximately 7*10^27 (7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) atoms, let alone the number of electrons we now must track if it was physically and mathematically possible. Then how would you send this data? You would need a whole lot of bandwidth and a [I]very[/I] reliable system, along with some serious error correction. The next question would be what happens to the person who is scanned. You have to "get rid" of the original or all you'd be doing on the other side is creating a copy, which would mean two separate entities. Not very practical, although kind of cool. This would mean you would have to deconstruct the original, molecule by molecule. That would kind of hurt, and essentially "kill" you. It also brings up the question, what makes you 'you'? I ask that because if you don't destroy the original, you'd have the copy on the other side. This copy would be [I]exactly[/I] like you, down to the atomic and sub atomic level. It also brings up a theological question. Do we have a soul that is linked to us to make us who we are? The final question, although there are hundreds more, what happens on the other side? How would you 'resemble' a person from this data? How would you manipulate the raw materials waiting on the other side? What if the other side 'runs out' of this raw material? There are so many questions. [B]EDIT[/B] It has come to my attention that people currently in this thread are either stubborn or idiots. Just because something does not exist or [I]seems[/I] completely impossible does not make it completely impossible. Look at airplanes. About 300 years ago, you would be locked up if you said you could build a flying machine. 100 years ago, you would be considered batshit insane if you said we would go to the moon There are so many things that have been predicted and considered "abominations of science" or something like that but have come true. Computers? Hell, in 1940, no one would have fathomed we would be even having this discussion online, since even the most advanced computers ran on punch cards, making my wrist watch more powerful.

So many questions because it is impossible.

Probably easier to create some sort of physics fucking field around a person and just move them to another spot.

[QUOTE=ArcNova;15992063]So many questions because it is impossible.[/QUOTE] So was the concept of a flying machine, AKA airplane.

[QUOTE=Master117;15992092]So was the concept of a flying machine, AKA airplane.[/QUOTE] We already knew it was possible because animals could do it. I've never seen anything teleport.

Each person is probably over 9000GB of data

[QUOTE=ArcNova;15992111]We already knew it was possible because animals could do it. I've never seen anything teleport.[/QUOTE] Aliens of course. :downs: [editline]10:02PM[/editline] [QUOTE=InsanePyro;15992125]Each person is probably over 9000GB of data[/QUOTE] More like 88 petabytes.

[QUOTE=ArcNova;15992111]We already knew it was possible because animals could do it. I've never seen anything teleport.[/QUOTE] OK, I'll change it. Going to the moon at one point was considered impossible. No one saw anyone or anything do it before. But guess what? We did it.

[QUOTE=dryer-lint;15992133]Aliens of course. :downs: [/QUOTE] Don't forget people's ghost in the sky

[QUOTE=Master117;15992141]OK, I'll change it. Going to the moon at one point was considered impossible. No one saw anyone or anything do it before. But guess what? We did it.[/QUOTE] But here is the difference. Moon exists, teleportation does not.

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[QUOTE=ArcNova;15992063]So many questions because it is impossible.[/QUOTE] Just shut up, maybe you should put some research into what you say before you make a idiot of yourself.

[QUOTE=Wisebrant;15992157]Just shut up, maybe you should put some research into what you say before you make a idiot of yourself.[/QUOTE] Okay, go research me up some [i]facts[/i] about teleportation then

Nothing that has previously existed, currently exists or is going to exist has the power required to teleport anything. Fact.

[QUOTE=ArcNova;15992171]Okay, go research me up some [i]facts[/i] about teleportation then[/QUOTE] Scientists have already managed to make a pencil teleport several meters.

[QUOTE=Victor Leferve;15992175]Nothing that has previously existed, currently exists or is going to exist has the power required to teleport anything. Fact.[/QUOTE] What I've been saying this whole time. Rated Agree. [editline]05:06AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Wisebrant;15992187]Scientists have already managed to make a pencil teleport several meters.[/QUOTE] Source please.

[QUOTE=Wisebrant;15992187]Scientists have already managed to make a pencil teleport several meters.[/QUOTE] I heard they did it with an apple or something as well...

Hurm, that sounds interesting. I'd like to see it.

[QUOTE=ArcNova;15992236]Hurm, that sounds interesting. I'd like to see it.[/QUOTE] I know...but I honestly am not sure where to go to prove it :downs: [editline]06:11AM[/editline] HOLY FUCK THEY DID IT WITH OIL DRUMS! [media] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj6Fdkjb08E [/media] You watched it didn't you? I bet you feel real smart

[QUOTE=Wisebrant;15992187]Scientists have already managed to make a pencil teleport several meters.[/QUOTE] I don't even need the source of that gobshite. You'd have to find a device which could list all the atoms in the pencil, sort them into matching groups, send them through the air without mixing them with other atoms, then re-assemble them in the correct order and in the correct place facing the correct direction. Oh, and if this was living matter being 'teleported' you'd have to keep it alive.

That video is amazing oh my god.

The idea of teleporting by killing someone and then cloning them somewhere else in an instant is kind of a crap idea for a lot of damned reasons-- Even if it were possible.

Here is the best I can find at the moment (I'm being serious this time around) [url]http://www.physorg.com/news77821847.html[/url] And don't google "teleport apple" you get alot of shit related to those white sorry excuses for a computer...

Here's a better question: If you're deconstructed when you're teleported, do you die with a clone in the target detonation that is none the wiser,or do you somehow keep consciousness?

[QUOTE=lmaoboat;15992356]Here's a better question: If you're deconstructed when you're teleported, do you die with a clone in the target detonation that is none the wiser,or do you somehow keep consciousness?[/QUOTE] That is one of my questions. What makes us [I]us?[/I] How do you retain "consciousness?"

Related, I can travel through time. Granted, it can only go forward and at normal speed, but that's a hell of a start.

[QUOTE=Victor Leferve;15992288]I don't even need the source of that gobshite. You'd have to find a device which could list all the atoms in the pencil, sort them into matching groups, send them through the air without mixing them with other atoms, then re-assemble them in the correct order and in the correct place facing the correct direction. Oh, and if this was living matter being 'teleported' you'd have to keep it alive.[/QUOTE] According to my year 12 science teacher they did.

if anything a form of teleportation would be the warping of space which is likely how in the future we'll try to get around surpassing the speed of light IE You've got a star that's thousands of light years away. You bend the space between you and that star so that the star is next to you. Think of having a straight line, but you've got the technology that allows you to bend the line so the end points are right next to each other. You don't travel the same distance, but you get to the destination. not sure if this would work on smaller scale like on earth though, and at the moment is physically impossible however it's an interesting idea to say the least

It's nice to think about it but ultimately will not happen, I promise you.

[QUOTE=BricknHead;15992477]if anything a form of teleportation would be the warping of space which is likely how in the future we'll try to get around surpassing the speed of light IE You've got a star that's thousands of light years away. You bend the space between you and that star so that the star is next to you. Think of having a straight line, but you've got the technology that allows you to bend the line so the end points are right next to each other. You don't travel the same distance, but you get to the destination. not sure if this would work on smaller scale like on earth though, and at the moment is physically impossible however it's an interesting idea to say the least[/QUOTE] But what happens if someone else uses a teleport and the 2 "streams" accidentally cross? Either way, the creation of a teleport would lead to the creation of cloning*, and the creation of the Genetics machine**. (* = But Matter can't be created or destroyed, so how would large scale teleportation work if it's creating and destroying matter?) (** = If you're not sure what this means, it's something in strange Sci-Fi movies that is a capsule thingy that scans the user and lets the user change their natural body.)