Cop probably felt intimidated by the many protesters shouting at him. Not justifying his actions but still I'd be pretty nervous in the same situation.
[QUOTE=Friendly;45749877]Cop probably felt intimidated by the many protesters shouting at him. Not justifying his actions but still I'd be pretty nervous in the same situation.[/QUOTE]
Except he's a cop with all sorts of training not some guy they took off the street and gave him a gun. You can't measure what cops do the same way you'd measure civilians. If it was some random guy and the protesters were on his front lawn, that would pass. But he's a cop on a street. He should know better.
[QUOTE=Friendly;45749877]Cop probably felt intimidated by the many protesters shouting at him. Not justifying his actions but still I'd be pretty nervous in the same situation.[/QUOTE]
No excuse to threaten someone with a lethal weapon, especially when he's a trained officer. Guns are a last resort. If he felt genuinely threatened by the man, he should have asked him to back off calmly and maybe threaten with pepper spray or something (you can apply this to the cop that murdered Mike Brown as well. Whether Brown attacked him or not is totally irrelevant in my opinion and near enough a case of victim blaming. Brown might have hit the cop but the cop still murdered him when he should have just sprayed him). Not threaten to murder him. He didn't even identify himself when he was asked, because he knew that he broke conduct. You shouldn't feel the need to justify his actions because they're not justifiable.
[QUOTE=Friendly;45749877]Cop probably felt intimidated by the many protesters shouting at him. Not justifying his actions but still I'd be pretty nervous in the same situation.[/QUOTE]
"Don't poke the angry bear"
The whole situation is shitty, people need to stop trying to make it worse.
"officer this officer is trying to kill me"
*tons of cameras rush over*
what the hell is going on anymore
Funny how there's a difference in comments compared to the SH thread.
Here it's "well I suppose he got nervous what with tons of people wanting to rush him and beat him to a bloody pulp just because of his profession".
In the other thread it's "Wow what a pig abusive cop".
All I can think is that this Ferguson mess is an even bigger headache inducing mess than the Trayvon Martin case.
hello officer go fuck yourself!
[QUOTE=Agoat;45750380]"Don't poke the angry bear"
The whole situation is shitty, people need to stop trying to make it worse.[/QUOTE]
I agree.
On one side you have stupid cops accidentaly saying stupid shit and media and camcorders and photographers all over that.
On the other, a bunch of angry people (mostly African American) that are being violent when they don't have to be.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45750681]I agree.
On one side you have stupid cops accidentaly saying stupid shit and media and camcorders and photographers all over that.
On the other, a bunch of angry people (mostly African American) that are being violent when they don't have to be.[/QUOTE]
they genuinely feel they have no legal recourse in their position.
It doesn't justify their actions, but they don't see any way out of a situation where the police are abusive, the courts are unfair, and they have little chance for serious political representation.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45750760]they genuinely feel they have no legal recourse in their position.
It doesn't justify their actions, but they don't see any way out of a situation where the police are abusive, the courts are unfair, and they have little chance for serious political representation.[/QUOTE]
The worst is those people who say "Why don't they just pick themselves up by the bootstraps and get representation?" Same mentality against people who are homeless.
similar to like "why dont the poors just get better jobs??"
People at an advantage or good position in life rarely seem to respect where they are or how they got there, be it cops, members of government, hell you can even just say "white people" since there's an advantage from birth right and it's projected onto those without that advantage. People still don't acknowledge it or worse, get pissy when people who are oppressed try to fight for equality because they don't like it. Boo fucking hoo you're annoyed, you don't live in a world so much out to get you and you're not making it easier for those who do.
[editline]20th August 2014[/editline]
[URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/LauraKHettiger/status/502197359150112769"]the cop's been suspended indefinitely[/URL], thank god.
Hope y'all know this only happened cos of the video tho. No denying what we all saw. Seen plenty people in twitter and stuff saying that it keeps happening (threats of violence) and nothing's getting done. Interesting how the only time we hear about someone getting punished for it is the one time the guy's been recorded doing it though lmao
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45750570]Funny how there's a difference in comments compared to the SH thread.
Here it's "well I suppose he got nervous what with tons of people wanting to rush him and beat him to a bloody pulp just because of his profession".
In the other thread it's "Wow what a pig abusive cop".
All I can think is that this Ferguson mess is an even bigger headache inducing mess than the Trayvon Martin case.[/QUOTE]
Over the years on FP I've noticed 90% of people who post in controversial threads pick the most morally correct opinion even if it's not the most logical AKA being the typical "moral compass" guy.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45750570]
Here it's "well I suppose he got nervous what with tons of people wanting to rush him and beat him to a bloody pulp just because of his profession".
In the other thread it's "Wow what a pig abusive cop".
[/QUOTE]
Not that many people actually said either of those things.
[QUOTE=Maximoon;45753450]Over the years on FP I've noticed 90% of people who post in controversial threads pick the most morally correct opinion even if it's not the most logical AKA being the typical "moral compass" guy.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean by "Pick"? Do people only hold so called "Morally correct" opinions on command? For show?
I don't get it, are you indicting people for having different moral views to you because you think your personal moral views are based on some objective fact?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;45753966]What do you mean by "Pick"? Do people only hold so called "Morally correct" opinions on command? For show?
I don't get it, are you indicting people for having different moral views to you because you think your personal moral views are based on some objective fact?[/QUOTE]
No, I'm saying the majority of people I see tend to side with the party who is the victim of the article, video ect
Ie: Shooting victim or startled cornered police officer
dark rp
good news, that guy got suspended
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;45750681]On the other, a bunch of angry people (mostly African American) that are being violent when they don't have to be.[/QUOTE]
why did you need to point out that it's mostly black people? what relevancy does that have? in what way did it improve the point you were making? did you just want to have a dig at black people??
Well that they are black is relevant in the whole incident but yea putting angry and black people together when it doesn't really back up your point just makes it look like you're saying all black people are angry/savage or something. And blaming black people here is just a terrible case of victim blaming imo like the cops are way fucking worse here than the community.
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