Arizona shooter Loughner pleads guilty, avoids death penalty - Polidicks

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19167320[/url] [quote=BBC News][B]The man accused of shooting a US congresswoman in Arizona and killing six others has pleaded guilty after a judge found him mentally competent.[/B] Last year, Jared Loughner's case was put on hold after experts said he had schizophrenia. The plea deal spares Loughner, 23, from the death penalty, and he is expected to be sentenced to life in jail. Former Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords was wounded in the January 2011 attack and has since left office. Earlier on Tuesday she said she would be satisfied with Loughner's plea deal. Her husband Mark Kelly wrote: "The pain and loss caused by the events of January 8, 2011, are incalculable. "Avoiding a trial will allow us - and we hope the whole Southern Arizona community - to continue with our recovery and move forward with our lives." [B]Courtroom outburst[/B] The Reuters news agency has reported that under the terms of the deal, Loughner has pleaded guilty to 19 criminal counts related to the deaths of six people and wounding of 13 more in the shooting rampage in Tucson, Arizona. Loughner appeared in court wearing a khaki jumpsuit, with his hair cut short. Witnesses say that, seated beside his lawyers, he appeared to pay attention to the proceedings. When Judge Larry Burns asked the defendant if he understood the charges against him, Loughner replied: "Yes, I understand." The judge said that seeing Loughner in court left no doubt that "he understands what's happening today". Initially, Loughner had been charged with 49 criminal counts including first-degree murder. Before Tuesday's hearing, Loughner had been forcibly medicated with psychotropic drugs for more than a year at a prison hospital in Springfield, Missouri. A not-guilty plea was entered on his behalf last year. Tuesday's proceedings were the fourth time he appeared in court for a judge to determine his mental competence. In May 2011 Loughner was declared unfit to stand trial after he had an outburst in the courtroom. His stay in hospital was previously extended after a judge found that "measureable progress" had been made by those treating him. The college dropout is charged with killing six people and wounding 13 others, including the former congresswoman, in the attack in Tucson, Arizona. Ms Giffords, a Democrat, was holding a regular constituency event at a supermarket when she was shot in the head at close range. A federal judge and a nine-year-old girl were among the victims of the shooting. Ms Giffords' seat is now occupied by Ron Barber, her former aide, who was also injured in the shooting. He is standing for re-election to a full two-year term in November.[/quote]

Oh, that guy. I'd forgotten there was an Arizona shooter.

It is nice that a lengthy trial and the death penalty were avoided.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126622]Oh, that guy. I'd forgotten there was an Arizona shooter.[/QUOTE] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/dfvy.jpg[/img]

I know, I remember him.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126692]I know, I remember him.[/QUOTE] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/h7ke.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=smurfy;37126710][img]http://imgkk.com/i/h7ke.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] Well it works in LMAO Pics [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] Believe it or not, I am indeed capable of making a dumb post. So be it.

[QUOTE=smurfy;37126710][img]http://imgkk.com/i/h7ke.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [img]http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/13/139060/2204269-Max-Paynes-face.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Tea Guy;37127302][img]http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/13/139060/2204269-Max-Paynes-face.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] He was just trying to avenge his family

[QUOTE=NightmareXx;37127638]He was just trying to avenge his family[/QUOTE] While being the smuggest bullet-time shootingist motherfucker that ever walked the streets of new york.

Damn, I wish the bastard was gonna fry, oh well.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;37128221]Damn, I wish the bastard was gonna fry, oh well.[/QUOTE] How could anyone take your opinion on the death penalty seriously when the only thing you have to say when someone doesn't get killed by it is "oh well"?

[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Williams#The_Brookhaven_Motel_murders"]arizona is a perfectly reasonable state heres proof that i love arizona iced tea[/URL] in this article stanley williams kills 3 people and gets executed, no news coverage. In OP's article, Loughner kills twice that, and doesn't get executed. News coverage :suicide:

[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37128598]How could anyone take your opinion on the death penalty seriously when the only thing you have to say when someone doesn't get killed by it is "oh well"?[/QUOTE] I don't know, I'm so mixed on it because I don't want him near other people, I had friends shot by him so it's out of anger but at the same time I'm indifferent because he'll be punished either way.

[QUOTE=BadDrum;37128795][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Williams#The_Brookhaven_Motel_murders"]arizona is a perfectly reasonable state heres proof that i love arizona iced tea[/URL] in this article stanley williams kills 3 people and gets executed, no news coverage. In OP's article, Loughner kills twice that, and doesn't get executed. News coverage :suicide:[/QUOTE] he shot into a crowd full of a member of congress and children

I'm against the death penalty but fully for him being locked away for his entire life. So this situation doesn't really phase me

[QUOTE=Carnage2323;37129046]I'm against the death penalty but fully for him being locked away for his entire life. So this situation doesn't really phase me[/QUOTE] there's not really much of a difference with prisons being the way they are, making the distinction just allows you to take the moral high-ground.

The fucker's probably going to be killed in prison anyway.

[QUOTE=Vollybomb;37129180]The fucker's probably going to be killed in prison anyway.[/QUOTE] How about America actually does something about that instead of being content with having such a garbage prison system that only serves to create more vicious criminals. To the people rating me dumb, please explain to me why you think that prison violence being left unchecked like this is an ok thing.

[QUOTE=Vollybomb;37129180]The fucker's probably going to be killed in prison anyway.[/QUOTE] This is also bad, and anyone who thinks that is justice is severely wrong and is only helping prevent our prison system from being improved upon.

[QUOTE=Vollybomb;37129180]The fucker's probably going to be killed in prison anyway.[/QUOTE] that's not really a good thing. prisons are meant to prevent crime, not agitate the survivors and lynch the rest.

[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37129216]How about America actually does something about that instead of being content with having such a garbage prison system that only serves to create more vicious criminals.[/QUOTE] Actually, I hear the prisons aren't that bad. You get a bed to sleep in, food to eat, and you don't have to worry about keeping a job because once you get released, you can always go right back in! :v:

[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37129216]How about America actually does something about that instead of being content with having such a garbage prison system that only serves to create more vicious criminals. To the people rating me dumb, please explain to me why you think that prison violence being left unchecked like this is an ok thing.[/QUOTE] I'm not saying it's a good thing, It's just a small victory

it's stupid to hope someone gets killed or stabbed or raped in a prison that's not how it's supposed to work and our prison systems are flawed for letting these things happen

[QUOTE=Boxbot219;37129216]How about America actually does something about that instead of being content with having such a garbage prison system that only serves to create more vicious criminals. To the people rating me dumb, please explain to me why you think that prison violence being left unchecked like this is an ok thing.[/QUOTE] how can you say that imagine how da famileys feeled :(

[QUOTE=Vollybomb;37130469]I'm not saying it's a good thing, It's just a small victory[/QUOTE] Oh yeah because if there's anything someone would call the empowerment of the prison violence culture in America it's "a small victory". Supporting prisoners being killed in prison is no different than supporting the death penalty. [editline]8th August 2012[/editline] Actually it's even worse than supporting the death penalty because capital criminals aren't the only ones who get killed in prison.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;37126799][editline]7th August 2012[/editline] Well it works in LMAO Pics [editline]7th August 2012[/editline] [b]Believe it or not, I am indeed capable of making a dumb post.[/b] So be it.[/QUOTE] Fucking shocker.

[QUOTE=Vollybomb;37130469]I'm not saying it's a good thing, It's just a small victory[/QUOTE] Actually, you are saying it's a good thing.

He's schizophrenic. I always have a problem with things like this. On one hand, the guy killed people. On the other hand, he was not mentally stable. Hoping -anybody- gets killed in prison is disgusting, by the way.

Yeah, I see what you're saying I just can't fucking stand it when someone goes and does something like this, he takes the lives of six people and permanently scars 13 others and he's still fucking [i]smiling.[/i] It's just hard to feel sympathetic for him. And I don't support the death penalty, by the way.