My local Congressman writes a bill to forbid illegal aliens from getting drivers' licences in CA - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Looking to block California Governor Jerry Brown’s effort to allow illegal aliens to obtain driver’s licenses under President Obama’s deferred action executive order, Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) released draft legislation today that would restrict some federal funding to any states that give DREAMers (kids under the age of 30) permission to drive. The Obama Administration’s “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals” directive took effect last month and provides an opportunity for illegal alien children, who were brought to the U.S. by their irresponsible parents, a chance to obtain legal status. However, the specifics of the executive order were vague opening the door for states to issue various types of legal identification programs. Typically, Republican-led governors are blocking deferred action recipients from obtaining driver’s licenses. On the flip side, Democrat-led governors want to issue the most common form of ID, state driver’s licenses. For example, a bill passed by the California state legislature was given to Governor Brown that would give 450,000 deferred action applicants’ driver’s licenses. “The State of California is a leader in sanctuary policies that stand in direct violation of the law,” Congressman Hunter explained. “In this case, the state will hide behind a federal policy that sidestepped Congress, but that won’t change the fact that the Administration’s directive disregards federal law and disrespects those who have been patiently and lawfully waiting for their opportunity. The only way California will begin abiding by the law—whether on this or any other immigration-related issue—is if there are direct consequences for implementing and defending sanctuary policies.” In an effort to clarify President Obama’s executive order, Hunter’s legislation would deny federal funding for the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program to states that issue driver’s licenses under Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) new program. This year California received more than $23 million from the federal government’s COPS program. The federal COPS program also provides state law enforcement agencies with a practice of community policing using research, guidebooks, and it funds new hires with supplemental salaries. Citing his draft legislation, Congressman Hunter added, “This bill presents California and other states with a clear choice. Should the state choose to proceed with issuing driver’s licenses, then it will have to do so without funding from the federal government that is intended to help enforce laws that the state continues to ignore. Should the state choose to uphold its obligations and consistently and thoroughly enforce the law, then supplemental federal funding will remain available. It’s a simple proposition—intended to help California make the right decision to best serve the interests of families and taxpayers.”[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.examiner.com/article/rep-hunter-seeks-to-block-california-giving-illegals-driver-s-licenses[/url] He is a young Congressman (same name as his father, easy reelections since many voters think it's his dad) and I know in my area people are obsessed with "stopping the illegals" But they sure love eating from all the local Mexican food restaurants :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=The Baconator;37556408][IMG]http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/3f/9b/1346876756_8084_az-sign-free-all.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] Is that sign a joke? What's written on that sign is nothing short of threatening terrorism. You're going to shoot more policemen until you get what you're demanding?

hey you live in california? so do i, we should touch dicks

[QUOTE=Juice_Layer;37556438]Is that sign a joke?[/QUOTE] I didn't notice that until now wtf

So what's the problem with stopping illegal immigrants from getting the benefits of the system

I see no problem with this. I also don't see how you quip about Mexican food restaurants, seeing as those restaurants are not founded by and have nothing to do with illegal immigrants.

[QUOTE=scout1;37556468]So what's the problem with stopping illegal immigrants from getting the benefits of the system[/QUOTE] nothing, there's definitely an issue with desperately trying to fly in the face of the DREAM act and prevent kids born in the united states to illegal parents from living a normal life due to circumstances out of their control though

[QUOTE=zzzz;37556488]I see no problem with this. I also don't see how you quip about Mexican food restaurants, seeing as those restaurants are not founded by and have nothing to do with illegal immigrants.[/QUOTE]Thank you for a sudden burrito craving.

[QUOTE=scout1;37556468]So what's the problem with stopping illegal immigrants from getting the benefits of the system[/QUOTE] This seems to be blocking licenses for people that would fall under the Deferred Action stuff - children of illegal immigrants who had no say in coming here. Punishing children for their parents' actions is generally seen as not good. In general, preventing people from getting licenses because of their citizenship status is probably counter-productive anyway, as that doesn't actually stop them from driving.

[QUOTE] restrict some federal funding to any states that give DREAMers (kids under the age of 30) permission to drive. [/QUOTE] So because these kids were born on American and their parents were not it only makes sense that they get punished because they chose to be born to illegal immigrants. Wasn't one of our boxers in the Olympics a kid born in America but the parents were illegals? Seems kind of backwards that we don't recognize our roots

uh i'd rather they have licenses than not have licenses because then at least we know they can drive.

Isn't that redundant? I thought you needed several forms of ID to get a license.

[QUOTE=Mingebox;37556574]Isn't that redundant? I thought you needed several forms of ID to get a license.[/QUOTE] uh no then there'd be panic that we have [I]millions[/I] of illegal immigrants driving without licenses remember you're not stopping them from driving to work everyday, they will drive, license or not

Block licenses in California, shoot police in Arizona? Awe man now I look like a moron who just stumbled into the thread without that picture.

[QUOTE=SilentOpp;37556638]Block licenses in California, shoot police in Arizona?[/QUOTE] I think I am gonna remove the pic, stuff is gonna get derailed

[QUOTE=SilentOpp;37556638]Block licenses in California, shoot police in Arizona?[/QUOTE] I was puzzled by this too. Still, the sign is outrageous.

[QUOTE=scout1;37556468]So what's the problem with stopping illegal immigrants from getting the benefits of the system[/QUOTE] Because deferred action recipients are children of immigrants who are protected from deportation and are allowed work in the United States for a period of up to two years, subject to renewal. Most people need a car to get to work. So this bill is basically a big "fuck you" to DACA.

[QUOTE=scout1;37556468]So what's the problem with stopping illegal immigrants from getting the benefits of the system[/QUOTE] lol benefits of the system making people have licenses is for the benefit of everyone. stopping them from having licenses is a pointless act designed to just win votes from the xenophobic crowd.

[QUOTE=blacksam;37556527]So because these kids were born on American and their parents were not it only makes sense that they get punished because they chose to be born to illegal immigrants. Wasn't one of our boxers in the Olympics a kid born in America but the parents were illegals? Seems kind of backwards that we don't recognize our roots[/QUOTE] If he's born in America then doesn't he get citizenship right as he comes out of the womb?

[QUOTE=scout1;37556468]So what's the problem with stopping illegal immigrants from getting the benefits of the system[/QUOTE] rofl so them driving with no licenses is ok? Licenses are not "benefits of the system" they are "benefits of the not getting run over by someone who doesn't know how to drive"

That sign makes it impossible to take them seriously. "Give us free stuff and no taxes or we'll shoot cops!" While I agree that illegals shouldn't be allowed to drive unless they become legal citizens/immigrants, the child born in America should be allowed. Technically the kid is American.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37556677]lol benefits of the system making people have licenses is for the benefit of everyone. stopping them from having licenses is a pointless act designed to just win votes from the xenophobic crowd.[/QUOTE] If they want to drive, then they should become citizens. [editline]6th September 2012[/editline] I can't even believe that people are arguing the fact that illegal immigrants aren't a good thing.

[QUOTE=The Baconator;37556617]uh no then there'd be panic that we have [I]millions[/I] of illegal immigrants driving without licenses remember you're not stopping them from driving to work everyday, they will drive, license or not[/QUOTE] Yeah, but how can they get licenses anyway when you already need passports and birth certificates and whatnot.

[QUOTE=thisispain;37556677]lol benefits of the system making people have licenses is for the benefit of everyone. stopping them from having licenses is a pointless act designed to just win votes from the xenophobic crowd.[/QUOTE] I can see you've never dealt with businesses before

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37556709]If they want to drive, then they should become citizens. [editline]6th September 2012[/editline] I can't even believe that people are arguing the fact that illegal immigrants aren't a good thing.[/QUOTE] [quote]The Obama Administration’s “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals” directive took effect last month and provides an opportunity for illegal alien children, who were brought to the U.S. by their irresponsible parents, a chance to obtain legal status.[/quote] Read before you post. Illegal immigrants [I]aren't bad[/I]. Making immigration trivial would just make the situation better, but illegal immigrants simply aren't a serious problem.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37556709]If they want to drive, then they should become citizens. [editline]6th September 2012[/editline] I can't even believe that people are arguing the fact that illegal immigrants aren't a good thing.[/QUOTE] If they're born in the US then they [b]are[/b] citizens. I can't even believe that you're arguing that denying citizens drivers licenses because of their parents is a good thing. [editline]5th September 2012[/editline] wait hang on i think you're talking about the parents NEVER MIND

[QUOTE=Thy Reaper;37556726]Read before you post. Illegal immigrants [I]aren't bad[/I]. Making immigration trivial would just make the situation better, but illegal immigrants simply aren't a serious problem.[/QUOTE] Dude. Thats like saying you find some squatter in your house and going "meh, dinner is at 5" The kids are not the problem. Its their parents.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37556709]If they want to drive, then they should become citizens.[/QUOTE] I don't think you realize how hard that is to do there are millions upon millions of illegal immigrants in just CA alone, and they get shit just for being illegal immigrants, do you honestly think they [I]want[/I] to be illegal? Why else are there all these huge protests for amnesty and shit?

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37556709]If they want to drive, then they should become citizens.[/QUOTE] genius why didn't i think of that before [editline]5th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=scout1;37556725]I can see you've never dealt with businesses before[/QUOTE] what does that even mean

[QUOTE=areolop;37556759]Dude. Thats like saying you find some squatter in your house and going "meh, dinner is at 5" The kids are not the problem. Its their parents.[/QUOTE] It's not the same at all, and their parents aren't a problem.