Police kill unarmed man and tell his family he committed suicide, and that he was holding his girlfr - Polidicks

[b]Link to the article:[/b] [url]http://missoulian.com/news/local/attorney-for-family-missoula-police-shot-suspect-execution-style/article_34c119cf-9cce-5160-abbd-d639812d93a4.html[/url] [quote]An attorney for the family of a man who was shot and killed by a Missoula police officer said Saturday he has significant issues with the official version of events leading to the death of Kaileb Williams. “I’m just going to call it like I see it. It’s execution style,” Terance Perry said of Wednesday morning's shooting.[/quote] [quote]Perry is one of the attorneys from the Missoula law firm Datsopoulos, MacDonald & Lind who is representing Williams’ mother and fiancee. In an interview, Perry said the family has a markedly different story of what happened in the hour before Williams was killed by a single gunshot wound to the head. They deny that the fiancee was ever held hostage or threatened by Williams. They wonder why the man's mother was initially told he committed suicide. And they cannot understand why police did not remove him from the car by tasing, physical force or negotiation.[/quote]

That is so fucked up.

Jesus Christ.

holy fucking shit, what is wrong with some cops

Is there another source? The original article seems to be gone.

[QUOTE=Frost 31;46863627]Is there another source? The original article seems to be gone.[/QUOTE] [url]http://missoulian.com/news/local/obituaries/kaileb-cole-williams/article_38c8f2ce-ded9-5034-9a58-a5b79c01820a.html[/url] and in case that stops working [url]http://www.kpax.com/news/family-of-man-killed-in-missoula-officer-involved-shooting-to-sue/[/url]

This why people have trust issues.

I thought for a moment this was another cubeman post. Still, this is fucked up

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46863657][url]http://missoulian.com/news/local/obituaries/kaileb-cole-williams/article_38c8f2ce-ded9-5034-9a58-a5b79c01820a.html[/url] and in case that stops working [url]http://www.kpax.com/news/family-of-man-killed-in-missoula-officer-involved-shooting-to-sue/[/url][/QUOTE] Thank you. This is some pretty dark stuff. Really wonder the officer's dash cam shows.

[QUOTE=Judas;46863614]holy fucking shit, what is wrong with some cops[/QUOTE] Whats wrong with cops. Period.

[QUOTE=morky;46863777]Whats wrong with cops. Period.[/QUOTE] Nothing is wrong with most cops. You'd need a dedicated forum for. "Cop saves man's live." "Cop returns stolen property." "Cop does job." "Cop does what literally most cops do every day protecting community of ungrateful fucks."

Someone has some wild agenda here to make their case so astoundingly differ from the other. The question now is who's telling the truth, and why is such a lie being spun? I know it's easy to say the cops are to blame, but there is nothing concrete here, admittedly. Still, what the heck is going on?!

[QUOTE=OvB;46863810]Nothing is wrong with most cops. You'd need a dedicated forum for. "Cop saves man's live." "Cop returns stolen property." "Cop does job." "Cop does what literally most cops do every day protecting community of ungrateful fucks."[/QUOTE] That's expected of them. They took the job to do so, and to get money from it. We shouldn't praise people doing what's expected of them, nor make threads like "Cop DOESN'T use excessive force, wow!" or "cop sees black guy, doesn't shoot him". But we should shed light on when they use wrongful misconduct.

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46863839]That's expected of them. They took the job to do so, and to get money from it. We shouldn't praise people doing what's expected of them, nor make threads like "Cop DOESN'T use excessive force, wow!" or "cop sees black guy, doesn't shoot him". But we should shed light on when they use wrongful misconduct.[/QUOTE] His post was what's wrong with cops period. Implying that all cops engage in misconduct. Which you agreed with. You and him are factually and demonstrably incorrect.

[QUOTE=OvB;46863810]Nothing is wrong with most cops. You'd need a dedicated forum for. "Cop saves man's live." "Cop returns stolen property." "Cop does job." "Cop does what literally most cops do every day protecting community of ungrateful fucks."[/QUOTE] That's something I'd actually be interested to see. I wonder if I could find subreddit for that.

[QUOTE=OvB;46863867]His post was what's wrong with cops period. Implying that all cops engage in misconduct. Which you agreed with. You and him are factually and demonstrably incorrect.[/QUOTE] Sure, I agree with you. But that's not what my latest post was about.

A better title would have been "Police kill man after car chase to save hostage girlfriend, girlfriend denies being a hostage." But that's too vague to align with either side's views I guess. Gotta pick teams! Go team girlfriend!

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46863902]A better title would have been "Police kill man after car chase to save hostage hostage girlfriend, girlfriend denies being a hostage." But that's too vague to align with either side's views I guess. Gotta pick teams! Go team girlfriend![/QUOTE] Why should I withhold information? They did tell his family that he had committed suicide, did they not? And the man was unarmed, was he not? And I said the police stated she was a hostage, but that she denied those accounts, did I not?

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46863946]Why should I withhold information? They did tell his family that he had committed suicide, did they not? And the man was unarmed, was he not? And I said the police stated she was a hostage, but that she denied those accounts, did I not?[/QUOTE] Now, I dont know shit about this case. Just going off the news source: [quote]They did tell his family that he had committed suicide, did they not?[/quote] [quote=News Source]Investigators say it was Kaileb Cole Williams, 20, of Missoula who was shot and killed by a Missoula Police Officer[/quote] [quote]And the man was unarmed, was he not?[/quote] Yes [quote] And I said the police stated she was a hostage, but that she denied those accounts, did I not?[/quote] [quote=News source]Williams was being chased after police say he was involved in a domestic dispute, forcing his girlfriend into the car.[/quote] Thats a fucking hostage whether she thinks she was or not. [quote]Missoula County Sheriff's Office Lieutenant Newell says [the officer] saw Williams choking his girlfriend, using an arm-block. [The officer] believed the woman's life was in danger, so according to Lieutenant Newell, Kelly fired one shot through the driver's side window of Williams' vehicle.[/quote]

Sounds like the car was disabled, he was unarmed, and some trigger-happy cop ran up to the driver's window and executed him...and nearly killed his girlfriend, too. That's fucking crazy, and completely inexcusable. Even putting aside the [I]best possible witness'[/I] account, the basic facts are extremely problematic. Kidnapping (if that's what actually happened) and running from the cops are not offenses deserving of summary execution. I'm sure the officer will be completely exonerated and back on the streets trolling for another excuse to waste a motherfucker six months from now. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46864036]Sounds like the car was disabled, he was unarmed, and some trigger-happy cop ran up to the driver's window and executed him...and nearly killed his girlfriend, too. That's fucking crazy, and completely inexcusable. Even putting aside the [I]best possible witness'[/I] account, the basic facts are extremely problematic. Kidnapping (if that's what actually happened) and running from the cops are not offenses deserving of summary execution. I'm sure the officer will be completely exonerated and back on the streets trolling for another excuse to waste a motherfucker six months from now. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Driving 100 MPH endangers everyone involved, including other motorists; though it was 2am so traffic was probably light. Nevermind apparently police had a five minute standoff with the guy before shooting him while the girlfriend was yelling for help, before which they had tried to break the windows on the car, but failed.

Do people seriously believe that the mother called 911 because she didn't feel at all threatened, and then policemen somehow forced a random guy (who just happened to be intoxicated) leaving peaceably with his girlfriend into pursuit at over 100mph for no reason and then executed him, what, to get their rocks off? Sounds [i]far[/i] more likely to me that they're twisting the story to get a payout from the police and exoneration for an unstable fiance.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;46864305]Driving 100 MPH endangers everyone involved, including other motorists; though it was 2am so traffic was probably light. Nevermind apparently police had a five minute standoff with the guy before shooting him while the girlfriend was yelling for help, before which they had tried to break the windows on the car, but failed.[/QUOTE] Its better to not respond. Just let them believe, post, and live the way they want

[QUOTE=DaMastez;46864305]Driving 100 MPH endangers everyone involved, including other motorists; though it was 2am so traffic was probably light. Nevermind apparently police had a five minute standoff with the guy before shooting him while the girlfriend was yelling for help, before which they had tried to break the windows on the car, but failed.[/QUOTE] None of that justifies shooting him in the head through the driver's side window. That is absolutely fucking insane and reckless. And, from the sound of things, her account refutes virtually every part of the police's justification for the shooting. I don't really see what reason she has to lie...but there is plenty of motive for the police to cover up a roadside execution of an unarmed person. [editline]5th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Code3Response;46864331]Its better to not respond. Just let them believe, post, and live the way they want[/QUOTE] Oh fuck you. You'd defend a cop for executing a bus full of schoolchildren on live TV.

Thats Fucked Up On So Many Levels

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46864344]I don't really see what reason she has to lie[/QUOTE] Other than the enormous payout that would come from a successful lawsuit if they all make sure their stories match? Or exonerating her fiance as an innocent man tragically targeted by sadistic police rather than an intoxicated moron who overreacted and got himself killed? And the best explanation you can give for why the police would do what would be entirely unjustified and unprovoked act of murder if her account is accurate, going so far as to falsify reports to claim that she said she was a hostage, is... what, exactly?

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;46863946]Why should I withhold information? They did tell his family that he had committed suicide, did they not? And the man was unarmed, was he not? And I said the police stated she was a hostage, but that she denied those accounts, did I not?[/QUOTE] In addition to Code3Response's post, you also withheld information regarding the domestic incident, the kidnapping, and the car chase. Why should you withhold information? To get people to side with your view apparently.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46864344]I don't really see what reason she has to lie.[/QUOTE] She's his girlfriend, which is obviously a massive conflict of interest. Wait for the facts to come out and the investigation to finish before you decide who was right and who was wrong.

[QUOTE=catbarf;46864470]Other than the enormous payout that would come from a successful lawsuit if they all make sure their stories match? [/QUOTE] Right, you get your face painted with the blood and brains of your boyfriend and your immediate reaction is "Shit, I could make [I]money [/I]from this!" I don't buy that for a second. Cops protecting their buddy from the consequences of his recklessness seems a lot more likely to me than somebody angling for a payout from a shooting. [editline]5th January 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;46864496]She's his girlfriend, which is obviously a massive conflict of interest. [/QUOTE] And cops corroborating their buddy's story isn't?

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;46864519]And cops corroborating their buddy's story isn't?[/QUOTE] That's why I said [quote]Wait for the facts to come out and the investigation to finish before you decide who was right and who was wrong.[/quote]