Thousands of Muslims gather outside Downing Street over Charlie Hebdo cartoonists - Polidicks

[Quote] Thousands of British Muslims gathered near Downing Street yesterday to protest against the publication of “insulting” cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohamed. Demonstrators said recent cartoons and drawings of the prophet published by the French magazine Charlie Hebdo and other publishers is a "stark reminder" that freedom of speech is “regularly utilised to insult personalities that others consider sacred". [/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-protest-against-cartoons-of-prophet-mohamed-in-face-of-britain-first-counterdemo-10032912.html[/url] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html[/url] It is ironic that they march using freedom of speech to attack freedom of speech.

[quote]Demonstrators said recent cartoons and drawings of the prophet published by the French magazine Charlie Hebdo and other publishers is a "stark reminder" that freedom of speech is “regularly utilised to insult personalities that others consider sacred".[/quote] Why is this an argument? Some people consider Hitler to be sacred. What now? Should degrading Hitler be illegal or frowned upon?

wow this whole thing is getting out of hand.

[URL="http://i.imgur.com/R56N4gZ.png"]http://i.imgur.com/R56N4gZ.png[/URL] Oh shit, sorry.

You're only posting this because you got told off for being a racist piece of shit in the thread about the EDL people [QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110423]The title should be fixed. You can't say all 700 people were racists. I bet less than 50 are. People are just tired with islams expansion and progression into europe and want it to stop. i wonder why you post this but don't post that several thousand muslims protested against freedom of speech in the uk against charlie hebdo. Are they not racists for attacking western and white values?[/QUOTE] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - OvB))[/highlight]

They must of gotten lost, France is across the channel. [editline]10th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Starlight 456;47110552]You're only posting this because you got told off for being a racist piece of shit in the thread about the EDL people[/QUOTE] Does it really matter?

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47110552]You're only posting this because you got told off for being a racist piece of shit in the thread about the EDL people[/QUOTE] I challanged him for saying all 700 people were racist. Islam is not a race and opposing it does not make me or anyone with logical thought a racist you are the ignorant peice of shit. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - OvB))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110588]I challanged him for saying all 700 people were racist. Islam is not a race and opposing it does not make me or anyone with logical thought a racist you are the ignorant peice of shit.[/QUOTE] Well it still doesn't give them a good reason of saying Islam is a terrible religion, since more than 90% of the Muslim population of the world is mostly sane.

cry about it

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;47110526][URL]http://i.imgur.com/R56N4gZ.png[/URL] Oh shit, sorry.[/QUOTE] I desperately want to have this made into a stencil and spraypaint it about my town [url]http://i.imgur.com/MlKf5F1.jpg[/url]

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;47110687]I desperately want to have this made into a stencil and spraypaint it about my town [url]http://i.imgur.com/MlKf5F1.jpg[/url][/QUOTE] if your desire to place inflammatory graffiti instead of thoughtful discussion around your town is so strong, it wouldn't be very hard construction paper, scissors, a bit of wire, some twisty ties, and spraypaint are all you need

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;47110526][URL="http://i.imgur.com/R56N4gZ.png"]http://i.imgur.com/R56N4gZ.png[/URL] Oh shit, sorry.[/QUOTE] Je suis intoxicated

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110588]I challanged him for saying all 700 people were racist. Islam is not a race and opposing it does not make me or anyone with logical thought a racist you are the ignorant peice of shit.[/QUOTE] You're right that criticising Islam as it is on paper isn't the same as generalising all Muslims but the EDL does have a racist agenda

[QUOTE=Charybdis;47110716]You're right that criticising Islam as it is on paper isn't the same as generalising all Muslims but the EDL does have a racist agenda[/QUOTE] And bloodrayne is creating a semantical argument besides, and is surely at least bright enough to understand that the intended term was religious intolerance, or islamophobia, yet insists on making a counterargument only on the word used.

[QUOTE=bitches;47110729]And bloodrayne is creating a semantical argument besides, and is surely at least bright enough to understand that the intended term was religious intolerance, or islamophobia, yet insists on making a counterargument only on the word used.[/QUOTE] Not to mention that if you look at his previous posts, nearly all of them are just.. gibberish.

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;47110526][URL="http://i.imgur.com/R56N4gZ.png"]http://i.imgur.com/R56N4gZ.png[/URL] Oh shit, sorry.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/an-idiot-made-a-game-called-muhammad-sex-simulator[/url] I see your image and I raise you a Muhammad sex simulator.

The more you become offended by something, the more people will do it. And they'll do it louder.

[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;47110630]Well it still doesn't give them a good reason of saying Islam is a terrible religion, since more than 90% of the Muslim population of the world is mostly sane.[/QUOTE] Frankly it is a terrible religion. Why is it most of FP feels wholly comfortable with shitting on christianity, but go "ooo aah" when someone criticizes the oppressive and backwards aspects of Islam that are not only present in the ideology but also practiced by the majority of the countries it is dominant in? I can only think its because christianity is associated with being white (ignorantly so) while practicing Islam is associated with being a ~~minority~~ (again, ignorantly so) and therefore above any reproach or criticism. Most of the world is [B]sane[/B], friend. You don't have to be neurologically damaged to practice oppressive belief systems or commit acts of violence as an extension of the will of your preferred deity.

[QUOTE=Riutet;47111128][url]http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/an-idiot-made-a-game-called-muhammad-sex-simulator[/url] I see your image and I raise you a Muhammad sex simulator.[/QUOTE] Wow. Vice did some [I]great[/I] reporting on that.

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110588]I challanged him for saying all 700 people were racist. Islam is not a race and opposing it does not make me or anyone with logical thought a racist you are the ignorant peice of shit.[/QUOTE] You have a point. If hating Islam falls under anything it would be xenophobia rather than racism. Mind you, I'm not very fond of Islam myself (in a "I dislike religions on general principle, and Islam is probably one of the worst" way).

Double Standards; The Protest.

It's a fucking drawing, fuck off.

they should draw something about this mocking them further

[QUOTE=ZakkShock;47110687]I desperately want to have this made into a stencil and spraypaint it about my town [url]http://i.imgur.com/MlKf5F1.jpg[/url][/QUOTE] Would you go around your town spraypainting the word nigger next to a big golliwog just because people are deeply offended by it and don't want you to do it? Just because freedom of speech means you have the right to openly offend people doesn't mean you should, and it certainly doesn't make you exempt from criticism over offending people.

People keep telling me to just deal and accept Islam but i have rarely heard any positive news. I also get nervous as fuck around my muslim friends since they start looking pissed at me when i say [I]anything[/I] related to their religion, of course i have a handful of chill muslims who don't give a shit about it but still. Someone printed a picture of mohammed on my school, it was a picture where he was hand in hand with Jesus with the text "No war, only peace" or something like that and 3 muslim kids just went fucking mad and smashed the computer along with the printer causing about 1300 euro of a damage which they refused to cough up.

[QUOTE=darth-veger;47111786]People keep telling me to just deal and accept Islam but i have rarely heard any positive news. I also get nervous as fuck around my muslim friends since they start looking pissed at me when i say [I]anything[/I] related to their religion, of course i have a handful of chill muslims who don't give a shit about it but still. Someone printed a picture of mohammed on my school, it was a picture where he was hand in hand with Jesus with the text "No war, only peace" or something like that and 3 muslim kids just went fucking mad and smashed the computer along with the printer causing about 1300 euro of a damage which they refused to cough up.[/QUOTE] I can't really answer for your anectodal evidence, but when do you hear generally positive news anywhere anyway? With a religion with over 1.5 billion adherents what do you expect to hear? How two million of them give to charity every day, or how one Muslim in the UK helped a mother save her baby from a fire?

[QUOTE=Fetret;47111956]I can't really answer for your anectodal evidence, but when do you hear generally positive news anywhere anyway? With a religion with over 1.5 billion adherents what do you expect to hear? How two million of them give to charity every day, or how one Muslim in the UK helped a mother save her baby from a fire?[/QUOTE] There are a shitload of Christian charity events that i know of which did a great impact on me, examples are the [URL="http://www.the4thmusketeer.uk/"]4th Musketeers[/URL] and [URL="http://www.doorbrekers.nl/"]Doorbrekers[/URL]. I have yet to hear about something like that but for Muslims. My point is not that muslims are not doing anything good on this world but in general Christians have a more straight thought of helping others, its what you learn from the bible and it is what the Church keeps teaching. I do not have a lot of knowledge on how muslims work nor what the quran exactly states but so far that is my experience with christians.

[QUOTE=BloodRayne;47110509][url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-protest-against-cartoons-of-prophet-mohamed-in-face-of-britain-first-counterdemo-10032912.html[/url] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protest-against-Charlie-Hebdo-magazine-publishing-cartoons-Prophet-Mohammed.html[/url] It is ironic that they march using freedom of speech to attack freedom of speech.[/QUOTE] How exactly is this protesting free speech? They're protesting the statement made, not Charlie Hebdo's right to make it.

[QUOTE=darth-veger;47112013]There are a shitload of Christian charity events that i know of which did a great impact on me, examples are the [URL="http://www.the4thmusketeer.uk/"]4th Musketeers[/URL] and [URL="http://www.doorbrekers.nl/"]Doorbrekers[/URL]. I have yet to hear about something like that but for Muslims. My point is not that muslims are not doing anything good on this world but in general Christians have a more straight thought of helping others, its what you learn from the bible and it is what the Church keeps teaching. I do not have a lot of knowledge on how muslims work nor what the quran exactly states but so far that is my experience with christians.[/QUOTE] I really don't know how to answer this. Your whole basis of argument rests on you being personally benefiting from a couple of Christian charity events when presumably you are living in a predominantly Christian country (sorry I'm basing this on your flagdog, I might be wrong). Can you not make the connection that maybe Muslim charities are more active in Muslim communities/neighbourhoods? Really I'm at a loss for words here and I'm trying to understand your point of view. You say you don't have a lot of knowledge or experience yet you have no problems making huge statements like "in general Christians have a more straight though of helping others". Also I would like to say you prefaced your last post with "positive news" which is much broader than charity events. Finally: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakat[/url]

[QUOTE=darth-veger;47112013]There are a shitload of Christian charity events that i know of which did a great impact on me, examples are the [URL="http://www.the4thmusketeer.uk/"]4th Musketeers[/URL] and [URL="http://www.doorbrekers.nl/"]Doorbrekers[/URL]. I have yet to hear about something like that but for Muslims. My point is not that muslims are not doing anything good on this world but in general Christians have a more straight thought of helping others, its what you learn from the bible and it is what the Church keeps teaching. I do not have a lot of knowledge on how muslims work nor what the quran exactly states but so far that is my experience with christians.[/QUOTE] Charity is something they teach you in Islam as well, it's called Zakat; purify (your heart from greed). I think the difference between the two types of charity is that Christians have a choice to give or not and for Muslims it's seen as compulsory if you're financially stable.