Remember that paper in New York listing gun owners on a map? First burglary linked to the usage of t - Polidicks

[quote=New York State Senate]Sen. Ball renews call for immediate removal of maps and unveils legislation Law enforcement plans rally to hold Journal News Accountable Brewster, N.Y. – 1/13/2013 – Today Senator Greg Ball (Patterson – R, C, I) announced that a burglary has been reported on Davis Ave. in White Plains, New York that evidently ties into The Journal News gun maps. It is reported that the burglar used The Journal News’ interactive gun map to target a home included on the map. Luckily the gun was locked up and no one was hurt. “The Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs. If the connection is proven, this is further proof that these maps are not only an invasion of privacy but that they present a clear and present danger to law-abiding, private citizens. Former convicts have already testified to the usefulness of the asinine Journal News ‘gun maps’ yet the reckless editors are evidently willing to roll the dice, gambling with the lives of innocent local homeowners,” said Senator Greg Ball. Tomorrow, Senator Ball will be publicly unveiling three separate pieces of legislation, all with bipartisan support, among them (S2132), to protect the privacy rights of ordinary citizens; including: law enforcement personnel, victims of domestic violence and private citizens. Let it be clear however, that under Ball’s legislation that has garnered bipartisan kudos and support, law enforcement and all related agencies would continue to have full access to permit information. Senate bill (S2132) would protect lawful gun owners, including thousands of retired and active law enforcement and victim of domestic violence survivors, from having their information publicly disclosed. “The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. These bills are critical to keep folks safe and fundamentally protect their inherent right to privacy. I hope all of these bills will be brought to the floor for an up or down vote, and allowed to fail or pass on their own merits and not as part of a large, overarching gun-control package. This is not about the Second Amendment; these bills are simply about commonsense and personal privacy. Publishing this information on a website, as we have evidently just witnessed in the recent attempted gun burglary, provides criminals with a map of where they can steal firearms from lawful owners for later use in the commission of crimes. This legislation is critical,” said Senator Greg Ball. In addition to Senator Ball’s legislation, the Vice President of the Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County, Robert Buckley, said in a letter, publishing these maps online is jeopardizing the safety of residents and is irresponsible. “The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper,” said Buckley. The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester will be holding a press conference on January 15, 2013 at the Westchester County Courthouse located at 111 Dr. Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard, White Plains, N.Y. at 1:00 p.m. For more information, please contact Joe Bachmeier at (845) 200 9716.[/quote] [url]http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/breaking-news-attempted-gun-burglary-tied-journal-news-gun-maps[/url]

That what you get if you posted a map with a person's valuables on it. This is getting ridiculous. The only other map that displays a person's name and location, that I know of at least, is a pedophile awareness map (which is still borderline creepy, even if they deserve it). If we're ostracizing those who done nothing wrong along to the same degree as those who committed pedophilia, I don't think our priorities are straight.

Kind of predicted this.

Not only does the burglar know that those homes have guns for self defense, they know which homes don't, thus allowing them to rob someone who can't fight back. I would sue the balls off of the people at the paper.

I still don't understand why they would attempt something like this. Labeling ordinary citizens as sexual predators because of their inherent use of their perceived self-defense. This is disgusting

Wouldn't it be smarter to avoid robbing the houses you know have guns? Also the list was huge, so I have a feeling the house was robbed and it happened to be on the list, so people are looking for a connection that probably isn't there.

I'm starting to like Senator Ball a little more every day. He's a pretty straightforward and is a pretty chill guy. [quote]“The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. These bills are critical to keep folks safe and fundamentally protect their inherent right to privacy. I hope all of these bills will be brought to the floor for an up or down vote, and allowed to fail or pass on their own merits and not as part of a large, overarching gun-control package. This is not about the Second Amendment; these bills are simply about commonsense and personal privacy. Publishing this information on a website, as we have evidently just witnessed in the recent attempted gun burglary, provides criminals with a map of where they can steal firearms from lawful owners for later use in the commission of crimes. This legislation is critical,” said Senator Greg Ball. [/quote]

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[QUOTE=DeandreT;39229419]An even smarter idea would be to rob the houses that aren't on the list.[/QUOTE] I feel like we just said the same thing, phrased differently :v:

[QUOTE=jeimizu;39229424]I feel like we just said the same thing, phrased differently :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah I just realized that. I read your post wrong, sorry.

[QUOTE=jeimizu;39229406]Wouldn't it be smarter to avoid robbing the houses you know have guns?[/QUOTE] Stolen guns are one of the most used weapons in crime, and this paper told criminals exactly where they can find those guns. This paper, supposedly against weapons, legal and illegal, is directly aiding criminals in their acquisition of illegal weaponry.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;39229524]Stolen guns are one of the most used weapons in crime, and this paper told criminals exactly where they can find those guns. This paper, supposedly against weapons, legal and illegal, is directly aiding criminals in their [b]acquisition of legal weaponry illegally.[/b][/QUOTE] Fixed that there.

this article is pretty much the epitome of nonbias

[QUOTE=Mastermind of42;39229021]That what you get if you posted a map with a person's valuables on it. This is getting ridiculous. The only other map that displays a person's name and location, that I know of at least, is a pedophile awareness map (which is still borderline creepy, even if they deserve it). If we're ostracizing those who done nothing wrong along to the same degree as those who committed pedophilia, I don't think our priorities are straight.[/QUOTE] pedophilia is also nothing wrong.

[QUOTE=jeimizu;39229406]Wouldn't it be smarter to avoid robbing the houses you know have guns? Also the list was huge, so I have a feeling the house was robbed and it happened to be on the list, so people are looking for a connection that probably isn't there.[/QUOTE] If you rob the house while no one is home, no one can shoot the gun at you. Most break and enters happen when no one is home.

[QUOTE=wallyroberto_2;39229752]If you rob the house while no one is home, no one can shoot the gun at you. Most break and enters happen when no one is home.[/QUOTE] that's why you put your lights on timers when you go on vacation

Can't see how they have a leg to stand on. The maps were compiled from public data that anyone can access, there was no infringement of privacy. It sure was a dick move on the newspaper's part, but I don't see anything illegal about it.

[QUOTE=SataniX;39229650]pedophilia is also nothing wrong.[/QUOTE] thanks for bringing that here wrong as you are

If the gun ownership information was public to begin with, they cant sue the paper.