Jeff Sessions suggests DOJ will crack down on marijuana growers, even in states that legalized weed
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[quote]Attorney General Jeff Sessions suggested that the Department of Justice may crack down on marijuana growers, even in the 29 states that legalized the drug in some form.
Sessions made the comments on conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt’s show Thursday morning, after Hewitt asked whether the Department of Justice would be prosecuting marijuana growers for being criminal enterprises.
“A lot of states are just simply breaking the law and a lot of money is being made and banked,” Hewitt said to Sessions of marijuana growers and sellers. “One [Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations] prosecution of one producer and the banks that service them would shut this all down. Is such a prosecution going to happen?”
Sessions told Hewitt that he didn’t think “one [RICO] prosecution would be quite as effective as that,” but said [b]he doesn’t think states that legalized the drug had the right to ignore current federal laws that ban the sale of marijuana.[/b]
“I do not believe there’s any argument that because a state legalizes marijuana, that the federal law against marijuana is no longer in existence,” Sessions said. “I do believe that [b]the federal laws clearly are in effect in all 50 states and we will do our best to enforce the laws as we’re required to do so.[/b]”
Federal laws currently classify marijuana as a Schedule I drug — the highest level given to illegal drugs and putting it in the same category as heroin and ecstasy.
Sessions agrees with that classification, and is against the legalization of weed.[/quote]
[url=https://mic.com/articles/185564/jeff-sessions-suggests-doj-will-crack-down-on-marijuana-growers-even-in-states-that-legalized-weed#.EbfMFBbGx]Source: Mic[/url] ([url=https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mic/]Media Bias/Fact Check Page[/url])
Emphasis mine.
Fuck states' rights, right? Republicans are all about big government, right?
Republicans are only for states rights when it is convenient for them.
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Federal laws currently classify marijuana as a Schedule I drug — the highest level given to illegal drugs and putting it in the same category as heroin and ecstasy.[/QUOTE]
lmao fuck off
Imagine being so ingrained into a bullshit war that you're willing to violate states rights to go after plant growers.
God damn
good fucking luck - this would create a MASSIVE legal quagmire
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52823602]Imagine being so ingrained into a bullshit war that you're willing to violate states rights to go after plant growers.
God damn[/QUOTE]
Federal laws supercede state laws so this isn’t a violation
As much as it sucks there's next to nothing stopping the DEA from raiding dispensaries iirc, since they can just arrest the people on federal charges.
[QUOTE=The Baconator;52823628]Federal laws supercede state laws so this isn’t a violation[/QUOTE]
From my understanding that's not necessarily true. There's some things that states do have to enforce; regulations, the constitution, etc. Federal laws don't necessarily need to be enforced by the state though. They can choose not to enforce federal laws though which would leave the federal government with the responsibility within that state though. It's something along the lines of states not having to keep illegal immigrants when it's not their job to.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;52823728]From my understanding that's not necessarily true. There's some things that states do have to enforce; regulations, the constitution, etc. Federal laws don't necessarily need to be enforced by the state though. They can choose not to enforce federal laws though which would leave the federal government with the responsibility within that state though. It's something along the lines of states not having to keep illegal immigrants when it's not their job to.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the feds can't force local/state authorities to do their work for them. But that doesn't mean the DEA can't go do a whole bunch of raids on any dispensaries or growers. They just have to do it themselves.
You can try as much as you want sessions, but legalized marinara is officially out of washington's boat house. The states have spoken and legal marijuana will eventually be the law of the land, no matter how much those suits in washington struggle and kick and scream
Didn't they promise they'll leave marijuana legalisation to states themselves? Not that anyone should trust any of their promises, just wondering.
Fucking do it. The better Washington will fuck you up. State's rights my ass
[QUOTE=Extronic;52823766]banks dont work with dispensaries do they?[/QUOTE]
afaik, most if not all dispensaries are cash-only.
Let me have my weed, [B]God Dammit.[/B]
This could be a strategic move to pressure Congress to reschedule the drug or legalize it outright.
ladies and gentlemen, our attorney general
"the KKK was okay until they started smoking weed"
[QUOTE=Chonch;52823916]This could be a strategic move to pressure Congress to reschedule the drug or legalize it outright.[/QUOTE]
Not when it's coming from Jeff Sessions
[QUOTE=Extronic;52823766]banks dont work with dispensaries do they?[/QUOTE]
Some do, but you have to go through some hoops. For instance, cash-only, and you have to treat the money so it doesn't smell like pot.
[QUOTE=Judas;52823603]good fucking luck - this would create a MASSIVE legal quagmire[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, not really. Supremacy clause gives DEA the authority to enforce federal law regardless of state laws, so federal agents can legally arrest people for possession regardless of state law. It's happened before, and courts have [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Raich]upheld as a precedent[/url] the fact that state law allowing marijuana cannot supersede federal law against it.
Until the federal government legalizes marijuana, the only thing stopping DEA agents from walking into a dispensary and arresting everyone involved is that they haven't been directed to. The current situation is not sustainable in the long-term.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52823916]This could be a strategic move to pressure Congress to reschedule the drug or legalize it outright.[/QUOTE]
Or it could be a strategic move to fuck people over in order to feed the prison-industrial complex.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52823916]This could be a strategic move to pressure Congress to reschedule the drug or legalize it outright.[/QUOTE]
You don't honestly believe that, do you?
[QUOTE=Chonch;52823916]This could be a strategic move to pressure Congress to reschedule the drug or legalize it outright.[/QUOTE]
Yes, the man who has given speeches on the evils of weed is working to get it federally reclassified.
No he wants the dispensaries raided and their proprietors and customers thrown in prison. He and his cronies will be paid for it under the table by the people who run said prisons.
[QUOTE=froztshock;52824161]Yes, the man who has given speeches on the evils of weed is working to get it federally reclassified.
No he wants the dispensaries raided and their proprietors and customers thrown in prison. He and his cronies will be paid for it under the table by the people who run said prisons.[/QUOTE]
If anything, I hope this pushes more states to legalize it, even if purely out of spite. :v:
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52824194]If anything, I hope this pushes more states to legalize it, even if purely out of spite. :v:[/QUOTE]
we're already well on the way. every time mid term elections come up a few more states join the ever-growing amount of legal states, it'll probably continue until we're left with a few holdouts that continue to fight it
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;52824194]If anything, I hope this pushes more states to legalize it, even if purely out of spite. :v:[/QUOTE]
The Ultimate Pipe Dream ( :v: ) would be 38 states agreeing to, and ratifying, an amendment to the Constitution which legalizes the possession, consumption, sale, purchase, and growth of Cannabis to citizens aged 21+ (similar to the Twenty-first Amendment in 1933) with some minor stipulations such as is the case with alcohol - the states individually decide the limitations, processes, and specifics of its legality.
In fact, this may even occur if 38 states in total legalize Cannabis, and are pressured into a state ratifying convention. But until then, it is the ultimate Pipe Dream.
[QUOTE=Chonch;52823916]This could be a strategic move to pressure Congress to reschedule the drug or legalize it outright.[/QUOTE]
Jeff Sessions blames weed for the opiod crisis, he's about as anti-legalize as one can get. But I would hope this blows up in his face and just intensifies the legalize fight.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;52824312]I wonder how he plans on actually enforcing this, with the states not cooperating, the second the ATF/DEA brought people to a police station, the police would let them go.
The fed really can't do shit without the states support, so anything he does is going to be pathetic at best. Furthermore, the administration couldn't threaten the states either, because they make so much fucking money from legal weed that they don't need federal grants. Hell colorado has been floating a massive surplus with legal weed, so much so that they're having a hard time finding places to throw money at.[/QUOTE]
They can do a lot. They can confiscate everything and basically bankrupt the people who grow and run dispensaries. They can also process them themselves. The fed does not need the state's support to put a hurting on anyone.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;52824327]The state can flat out arrest the agents for violating state law. Sure it wouldn't stick, but it'd certainly start sending a messaage. There's far too much money in weed for a legal state to allow the fed to stick it's dick into the business.
Personally I think that this whole weed thing is going to come to a head sooner or later, and it's going to come out in favor of legal weed, because quite frankly the fed can't keep waging war on drugs.[/QUOTE]
No, they can't arrest federal agents. The feds can, however, arrest the state LEOs for interfering with a federal operation.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;52824319]They can do a lot. They can confiscate everything and basically bankrupt the people who grow and run dispensaries. They can also process them themselves. The fed does not need the state's support to put a hurting on anyone.[/QUOTE]
i don't think the federal government would be able to do that anymore. it's not the 20th century, we now live in an era where most people consider weed to be a soft drug and regularly use it. many of these people will include law enforcement and those in the federal government. to a degree you can only enforce laws when the population has respect for them. think about how much in terms of resources, manpower, money, time, etc have to be spent (allowing for everything else they're responsible for too) to clamp down on it now.
more and more states are legalizing it and the industry and public acceptance is growing. the war on marijuana has already been lost
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;52824374]i don't think the federal government would be able to do that anymore. it's not the 20th century, we now live in an era where most people consider weed to be a soft drug and regularly use it. many of these people will include law enforcement and those in the federal government. to a degree you can only enforce laws when the population has respect for them.
more and more states are legalizing it and the industry and public acceptance is growing. the war on marijuana has already been lost[/QUOTE]
Of course acceptance is growing, and that's great. But laws are still laws, and if they decide to enforce them, you can't stop them unless you're ready to do something like what happened with the bundy ranch. It should be legalized federally, but "should" is not the same as "is".
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