A Big Loophole? Chick-fil-A Is Already Raising Questionable Money
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[QUOTE]President Dan Cathy tweeted a photo this week from a Chick-fil-A backed fundraiser for a group once described as antigay by an investigation of the company's giving.[h=4]BY LUCAS GRINDLEY[/h][h=3]SEPTEMBER 20 2012 12:00 PM ET[/h]
[IMG]http://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/imagecache/stories/DanCathyAndRideForTheFamily_400x300.jpg[/IMG]Dan Cathy tweeted a photo this week from the "WinShape Ride for the Family."
Although Chick-fil-A supposedly assured a Chicago alderman that it would stop donating to antigay groups, this week it held a fundraiser for one anyway.
The fast food chain [URL="http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/09/19/has-chick-fil-abandoned-antigay-ways"]promised[/URL] in a letter to Alderman Proco "Joe" Moreno, reported by the [I]Chicago Phoenix[/I], that it would end giving to any groups with "political agendas," implying it had stopped a practice that had led to about $5 million for antigay groups. But there might be a loophole.
Although the company's foundation might not be donating directly, Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy [URL="https://twitter.com/dancathy/status/248249682898321409"]tweeted a photo[/URL] on Tuesday from the 2012 WinShape Ride for the Family. He wrote alongside the picture of a pack of motorcyclists: "WinShape Ride for the Family bikers locked and loaded for 200 mile ride to Wilmington out of Charleston."
That long ride is a fundraiser for an organization that helps lobby against marriage equality. Registration forms for the event ask that checks be sent, not to the WinShape Foundation that Chick-fil-A operates, but directly to the Marriage and Family Foundation at 5200 Buffington Road in Atlanta, Ga.
The forms say the ride fee is $3,500 for each individual or couple. But sponsorship packages posted online show that organizations could pledge $5,000 for "silver" status, $10,000 for "gold" or $15,000 and more to reach "platinum." The Chick-fil-A logo accompanies everything, and so does the WinShape name, but it's unclear whether the foundation continues to make donations.
The Marriage and Family Foundation was not only included in the investigation by [I]Equality Matters[/I] of the fast-food chain's questionable giving history, it [URL="http://equalitymatters.org/factcheck/201207020001"]was identified[/URL] as the top antigay recipient in 2010. WinShape had given more than $1 million to the group in 2010 alone.
[I]Equality Matters [/I]explained the group's history in detail. It was originally named the Marriage and Family Legacy Fund when it was founded in 2007 by [URL="http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/topic/excellence_in_philanthropy/bubba_cathy"]a member of the Cathy family[/URL]. In fact, the current Buffington Road address in Atlanta is now [URL="http://atlanta.citysearch.com/profile/map/3043376/atlanta_ga/chick_fil_a_inc.html"]shared[/URL] by Chick-fil-A's headquarters.
The Marriage and Family Foundation was created as the "implementation and funding arm" for something called the Marriage CoMission, which [I]Equality Matters[/I] says is host to an annual conference about the supposed decline of marriage. The conference has been [URL="http://www.marriagecomission.com/go/storyofcharter/"]attended[/URL] by the founders of the National Organization for Marriage and Exodus International, which had once focused on changing people from gay to straight. The Cathy-family group originally was intended to contribute to multi-million dollar public awareness campaigns about its values.
Granted, the group's sole focus isn't on same-sex marriage. The CoMission emphasizes lowering the divorce rate and making couples more satisfied in their marriages, for example. But even in those instances, the group has [URL="http://equalitymatters.org/factcheck/201103220004"]made clear[/URL] it's worried only about heterosexuals being happy in their marriages and avoiding divorce.
Chick-fil-A was facing backlash not only from the local Chicago lawmaker, who blocked the chain's expansion to his neighborhood, but also from dozens of college campuses where protests were spreading. The chain is located in campus food courts across the country. Campus Pride had led in a lot of the college-level backlash and on Wednesday [URL="http://www.campusprideblog.org/blog/campus-pride-suspends-chick-fil-5-simple-facts-about-chick-fil-national-college-campaign"]announced it has suspended[/URL] its "5 Simple Facts about Chick-fil-A" awareness campaign in response to recent meetings with Dan Cathy himself. It too had seen reason to believe the company is intent on changing its ways and Executive Director Shane Windmeyer struck a cautious note while saying he is "pleased" by what could be ahead.
The company itself has so far been mum on any change in policy. Representatives did not return multiple calls and emails for comment on this story. And they had also refused requests from mainstream media to confirm the Chicago alderman's version of events.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.advocate.com/business/2012/09/20/chick-fil-raising-money-very-week-anti-marriage-equality-group[/URL]
Motherfuckers.
Why do you pay me $8.50 an hour for frying chicken nuggets? Why chick fil a? Why?
Fuck me, forgot the second bit of the article:
[QUOTE]During an appearance on Current TV on Wednesday, Moreno claimed Chick-fil-A had taken "a big step forward." But when Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, asked why the company wouldn't confirm its changing views, Moreno said it was apparently the company's policy not to talk about it.
Uygur asked why anyone should believe Chick-fil-A when it says it will stop making antigay donations, and Moreno said he'd seen new financial statements and the antigay groups were missing — although he did not say specifically whether the Cathy family's own Marriage and Family Foundation was also gone.
Although the company has no official anti-discrimination policy, it reportedly sent a memo to local operators explaining that everyone should be treated the same. The notice, titled “Chick-fil-A: Who We Are,” said the company would “treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their beliefs, race, creed, sexual orientation and gender.” The complete memo was not shared, but it didn't appear to have included the word "discrimination."
Since this isn't any different from what Chick-fil-A has long claimed in public statements on Facebook and elsewhere, Uygur asked Moreno why it matters. "What if they don't follow through?" he asked.
"They would be breaking the law," Moreno said, citing his city's human rights ordinance. "Now that they have adopted that within an official company document, in the legal field if they were to break that, or if a franchisee was to discriminate, there is going to be severe legal retributions to the company."
The Civil Rights Agenda of Illinois had been advising Moreno on his conversation with Chick-fil-A, and it touted the apparent change in policy on Wednesday. But when reached today with information about the Marriage and Family Foundation fundraiser this week, Executive Director Anthony Martinez was concerned it might violate the spirit of that agreement.
"The agreement was that the foundation would no longer give to these groups, so we are going to have to take some time to obviously look into this," said Martinez. He said his group and the alderman both understood it would be important to monitor Chick-fil-A going forward.
Martinez said the Marriage and Family Foundation would need to have changed its ways in order for Chick-fil-A to honor what it told the alderman.
"In the past, their practices have definitely been against the marriage equality movement," Martinez said. "So the concern would be that, since it was founded by the Cathys, would be going forward is what they are using that money for.... Supporting family and marriage is definitely a good thing, but if they are working against marriage equality, obviously that is something that needs to be addressed."[/QUOTE]
Basically, they said what they did so that they could try to open up stores in Chicago.
Also, my boss is homosexual.
[QUOTE=MRApples7;37742330]Also, my boss is homosexual.[/QUOTE]
don't tell corporate
You lasted as long as you could, didn't you.
Dirty lying bastards, have they no honor?
I still have no idea why someone would be such a dick to want to lobby against equal marriage rights.
Well, so long as the money from the chicken sandwiches doesn't go to it, I'm fine with eating there. I mean, it's bigoted and horrible, but he's advocating separate donations, not using company money like he was (I think), so eating there means you won't be funding anti-gay groups any more (again, assuming he doesn't just lie).
I thought people stopped caring about this awhile ago
[QUOTE=redBadger;37742917]I thought people stopped caring about this awhile ago[/QUOTE]
just because you personally exercise an "issue of the day" version of politics doesn't mean everybody else does
[QUOTE=MRApples7;37742300]Why do you pay me $8.50 an hour for frying chicken nuggets? Why chick fil a? Why?[/QUOTE]
You guys may have cheap gasoline compared to here but you're not even earning the £6.08 minimum wage over here.
Christ, how the fuck do you people afford anything?
[QUOTE=Ereunity;37743027]You guys may have cheap gasoline compared to here but you're not even earning the £6.08 minimum wage over here.
Christ, how the fuck do you people afford anything?[/QUOTE]
$8.05 is actually just over our minimum wage for under 21s.
[QUOTE=Ereunity;37743027]You guys may have cheap gasoline compared to here but you're not even earning the £6.08 minimum wage over here.
Christ, how the fuck do you people afford anything?[/QUOTE]
Because I live in poverty southern america. Welcome to the jungle baby.
[QUOTE=Ereunity;37743027]You guys may have cheap gasoline compared to here but you're not even earning the £6.08 minimum wage over here.
Christ, how the fuck do you people afford anything?[/QUOTE]
We don't. Most of the nation is poor as fuck and can't afford basic necessities like health care and healthy food.
[QUOTE=MRApples7;37742300]Why do you pay me $8.50 an hour for frying chicken nuggets? Why chick fil a? Why?[/QUOTE]
8.50? Jesus you're lucky, I do the same thing and I only get $7.25 an hour :c
[QUOTE=Alan Ninja!;37743249]8.50? Jesus you're lucky, I do the same thing and I only get $7.25 an hour :c[/QUOTE]
Haha I make more money than you! But seriously, where do you live? I've been employed in the chik chik buisness for a good year and a half.
[QUOTE=MRApples7;37743275]Haha I make more money than you! But seriously, where do you live? I've been employed in the chik chik buisness for a good year and a half.[/QUOTE]
Interactive map of minimum wages state by state in the US:
[URL="http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm"]http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=MRApples7;37743275]Haha I make more money than you! But seriously, where do you live? I've been employed in the chik chik buisness for a good year and a half.[/QUOTE]
West Georgia, practically Alabama. They opened up a new Chickfila here a year or two ago, I've been making chicken sammiches on and off since it opened. The pay sucks, but I've got some pretty cool colleagues so it's all good.
[QUOTE=Alan Ninja!;37743374]West Georgia, practically Alabama. They opened up a new Chickfila here a year or two ago, I've been making chicken sammiches on and off since it opened. The pay sucks, but I've got some pretty cool colleagues so it's all good.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, they're allowed to pay people $5.15 an hour in Georgia according to the Department of Labor in certain situations. I can't even imagine living like that.
iirc, the federal law overrules that where the state minimum wage is lower, so we have to go with $7.25. I would have quit a long time ago if I was only getting five bucks an hour
God damn it, can I or can I not eat at Chick-fil-A without being a massive asshole? This is confusing me.
[QUOTE=GunFox;37743187]We don't. Most of the nation is poor as fuck and can't afford basic necessities like health care and healthy food.[/QUOTE]
Healthy food is cheaper than cheap fatty foods.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;37744006]Healthy food is cheaper than cheap fatty foods.[/QUOTE]
no its not...
[QUOTE=1legmidget;37743333]Interactive map of minimum wages state by state in the US:
[URL="http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm"]http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]
Oh cool, my state has the highest minimum wage, didn't know that.
[QUOTE=altern;37742381]don't tell corporate[/QUOTE]
He's a bartender in a gay bar.
If management knew they'd fire everyone!
[QUOTE=1legmidget;37743333]Interactive map of minimum wages state by state in the US:
[URL="http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm"]http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/america.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]
Ha, all states suck compared to Ontario Canada. $10.25, motherfuckers.
[QUOTE=MRApples7;37742300]Why do you pay me $8.50 an hour for frying chicken nuggets? Why chick fil a? Why?[/QUOTE]
I've suffered before with $7.25/hr (no tips) to scrub, clean, and stack dishes for a popular local restaurant by myself.
[QUOTE=MRApples7;37742300]Why do you pay me $8.50 an hour for frying chicken nuggets? Why chick fil a? Why?[/QUOTE]
Are you complaining about this?
I get paid $8 an hour at PETCO do deal with crappy employees, crappy people and literal dog crap.
I don't give a shit really. As long as their spicy chicken sandwiches are still as delicious as they are, they can hate anybody they want.
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