• EMT Paramedic That Ignored Dying Pregnant Woman Because Of Coffee Break Has Been Cleared Of All Char
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[QUOTE]The Brooklyn EMT who callously refused to help a dying pregnant woman because she was on her coffee break saw her official misconduct charge dropped today after EMS chief Abdo Nahmod — who initially supported the case against her — flip-flopped, leaving frustrated Brooklyn prosecutors no choice but to dismiss the case. Melisa Jackson, 27, was in uniform and on-duty when she snuck away from her dispatcher job at FDNY headquarters in downtown Brooklyn in December 2009 to meet her EMT boyfriend in a nearby Au Bon Pain. But when pregnant Eutisha Rennix, 25, had a serious asthma attack, Jackson wouldn’t even walk into the back room to look at her. Both Rennix and her unborn baby died. “Had the defendant just walked into the rear room, she would have seen that this was not just a person who needed transport to a hospital. Ms. Rennix needed immediate medical assistance,” assistant district attorney Kevin Richardson said in court this morning. “Ms. Rennix did die that day there on the floor in the rear locker room of Au Bon Pain, and the defendant had her coffee.” [/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/06/25/news/web_photos/062513JACKSON16GPM130738--300x450.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Melisa Jackson at Brooklyn Criminal Court today.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/charge_official_misconduct_ignored_VdDS3QE9XQZTqIkwGFP5tK?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost[/URL]
when you become a first respondent, you're always on the line no matter if you're off duty or on duty.
Am I reading this right? She snuck away to spend time with her boyfriend (also an EMT) and neither of them help in a serious medical emergency situation, even though they were both trained, and they get off scot free? What the fuck.
Not sure what she could have done honestly. Would a dispatcher with no equipment have been able to help someone having an asthma attack?
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;41190587]Not sure what she could have done honestly. Would a dispatcher with no equipment have been able to help someone having an asthma attack?[/QUOTE] Does not constitute ignoring the person. They could have done a lot of things to help the woman, but they did nothing. Not even call for help. Sickening
How do you choose a break over another humans life, that's a very easy choice to make.
Based on what I could tell, they may actually have just been a dispatcher, with no medical assistance capability, and considering they worked at the Fire department, this could be part of that reason. It seems that "Certified First Responder" is the lowest level of EMT, which they may or may not have the knowledge to provide medical aid from what I understand.
[QUOTE=deadoon;41190643]Based on what I could tell, they may actually have just been a dispatcher, with no medical assistance capability, and considering they worked at the Fire department, this could be part of that reason. It seems that "Certified First Responder" is the lowest level of EMT, which they may or may not have the knowledge to provide medical aid from what I understand.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm not convinced this lady had the training, the experience and the equipment needed to aid to the situation.
Theres no law but she was an emergency medical technician meaning she HAD the fucking training. She could have done a fucking trache or something
[QUOTE=MuTAnT;41190718]Yeah I'm not convinced this lady had the training, the experience and the equipment needed to aid to the situation.[/QUOTE] Even if this is true, it's hardly an excuse to do nothing.
Disgusting
Sounds like something out of House MD
[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;41190570]when you become a first respondent, you're always on the line no matter if you're off duty or on duty.[/QUOTE] Actually, if EMTs are off duty. They don't have to stop and help you. It's a dick thing to do, but they're not required.
[QUOTE=Whiterfire;41190790]Theres no law but she was an emergency medical technician meaning she HAD the fucking training. She could have done a fucking trache or something[/QUOTE] She was a dispatcher, in new york, the lowest level of EMT is "certified first responder", which you can attain after a 40 hour class, and is below even the basic level EMT for care capability of other states.
There is a word that I wish to use to describe this evil sack of shit, but I'll keep it to myself this evening.
Reminds me of when I went to get a phone a couple days ago and the guy told me to come back in five minutes because it was his five minute break. I gave him the most dumbfounded stare as he turned in the opposite direction. Some people take their breaks seriously I guess.
That's not how it works. I know police officers are "on call" in the event that the station needs support at most hours of the day - the same thing ought to apply here.
Its a tough career, but you have to make sacrifices for such a career.
I feel utterly disgusted reading this. Where I live, The Netherlands, you are forced by law to help people in need IF you can supply ANY FORM of help. If someone dies outside my window and I just stare and do nothing, I can be prosecuted for neglect.
She could have, you know, gone and checked and then called for assistance. Like, 911 type assistance.[QUOTE=ItsMozy;41191534]I feel utterly disgusted reading this. Where I live, The Netherlands, you are forced by law to help people in need IF you can supply ANY FORM of help. If someone dies outside my window and I just stare and do nothing, I can be prosecuted for neglect.[/QUOTE]Same thing in Minnesota. If I ignore somebody in obvious trouble, I'm in trouble. Simple concept, really.
In my state, it's absolutely illegal to do this. We have good Samaritan laws; you can't be prosecuted for injuring someone when you tried to help them, and you can't be prosecuted for not helping someone. Unless you are certified by the State, or have been in the past, for absolutely any level of emergency medicine training. Then, if you do something you haven't been trained to do, or if you don't help, you can be prosecuted. If you see an accident on the side of the road and keep driving, you can and probably will be prosecuted and jailed for not assisting someone in need.
[quote]“I had no type of equipment to render aid, because I worked inside of a dispatch center behind a computer,” Jackson maintained – even though she never even stepped into the back room to see what type of help was needed.[/quote] She was a dispatcher. Everyone calls her an EMT, but she had no kit and wasn't assigned to an ambulance. She was told "hey this person is having trouble breathing" and she called an ambulance and left. Also just FYI as to why the boyfriend isn't being brought up on charges: He is dead. Shot to death. [url]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/emt_rap_in_gal_death_Odw9QbhCn8ijEBX5Q8dDsL[/url]
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;41190830]Sounds like something out of House MD[/QUOTE]the whole thing with the boyfriend and shit makes me think more of Grey's Anatomy because of how stupid it is
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;41192335]She could have, you know, gone and checked and then called for assistance. Like, 911 type assistance.[/QUOTE] She did. They said a lady was having trouble breathing and she called an ambulance immediately.
[QUOTE=DarkendSky;41192442]In my state, it's absolutely illegal to do this. We have good Samaritan laws; you can't be prosecuted for injuring someone when you tried to help them, and you can't be prosecuted for not helping someone. Unless you are certified by the State, or have been in the past, for absolutely any level of emergency medicine training. Then, if you do something you haven't been trained to do, or if you don't help, you can be prosecuted. If you see an accident on the side of the road and keep driving, you can and probably will be prosecuted and jailed for not assisting someone in need.[/QUOTE] Not that the article (which is rather biased) provides much information, but from what I gather the defendant was a dispatcher, not someone who had any amount of training to actually handle medical emergencies. As such, it's entirely possible the defendant didn't know how to render any aid short of dialing 911, which anyone could do. [del]Don't get me wrong, the fact the defendant couldn't even be bothered to stop sipping her coffee long enough to take a look and, at the very least, call 911, is despicable; it's just that it might not have mattered in the end. [/del] [QUOTE=GunFox;41192495]She did. They said a lady was having trouble breathing and she called an ambulance immediately.[/QUOTE] Nevermind then, back to point one, the article is rather biased. Also, it seems like your State's law is sort of a catch 22 if you're certified by the State for some level of emergency medical training but haven't been training to render the type of aid needed in a situation (as, if you do try and help you're doing something you weren't trained to do, but if you don't help you'll be prosecuted anyway); perhaps I'm misunderstanding.
[QUOTE=GunFox;41192495]She did. They said a lady was having trouble breathing and she called an ambulance immediately.[/QUOTE]Oh, sorry, I must have missed that in the article. For some reason, I found it difficult to read and kept losing my place a lot.
[QUOTE=loopoo;41191240]Reminds me of when I went to get a phone a couple days ago and the guy told me to come back in five minutes because it was his five minute break. I gave him the most dumbfounded stare as he turned in the opposite direction. Some people take their breaks seriously I guess.[/QUOTE] Fuck that, you are not his top priority, it's his break, he's a human being, wait for five goddamn minutes.
Why become an EMT if you don't want to help people? I have trouble understanding people sometimes. Hopefully that death haunts her concious if she has one and perhaps inspires her to never let that happen again.
[QUOTE=geel9;41192568]Fuck that, you are not his top priority, it's his break, he's a human being, wait for five goddamn minutes.[/QUOTE] I did wait for the five minutes, it's just I'm surprised some people are really anal about 5 minute breaks. I can understand if it's a 30 minute break, but he told me he has his five minutes break and literally spent the time walking around behind the counter? Seems a bit stupid.
article sounds really biased
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