Wounded Iraq vet jeered at by students of Columbia - Polidicks

[img]http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/02/20/news/photos_stories/20.1n008.norespect1--300x450.jpg[/img] [quote]Columbia University students heckled a war hero during a town-hall meeting on whether ROTC should be allowed back on campus. "Racist!" some students yelled at Anthony Maschek, a Columbia freshman and former Army staff sergeant awarded the Purple Heart after being shot 11 times in a firefight in northern Iraq in February 2008. Others hissed and booed the veteran. Maschek, 28, had bravely stepped up to the mike Tuesday at the meeting to issue an impassioned challenge to fellow students on their perceptions of the military. "It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting," said Maschek. "There are bad men out there plotting to kill you." Several students laughed and jeered the Idaho native, a 10th Mountain Division infantryman who spent two years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington recovering from grievous wounds. Maschek, who is studying economics, miraculously survived the insurgent attack in Kirkuk. In the hail of gunfire, he broke both legs and suffered wounds to his abdomen, arm and chest. He enrolled last August at the Ivy League school, where an increasingly ugly battle is unfolding over the 42-year military ban there. More than half of the students who spoke at the meeting -- the second of three hearings on the subject -- expressed opposition to ROTC's return. Many of the 200 students in the audience held anti-military placards with slogans such as, "1 in 3 female soldiers experiences sexual assault in the military." The university has created a task force polling 10,000 students on the issue, but would not release the vote tally of the 1,300 who have already responded. In 2005, when the university last voted to reject ROTC's return, it cited the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. That policy was overturned in December, but resistance remains. "Transpeople are part of the Columbia community," said senior Sean Udell at the meeting, referring to the military's current ban on transgender soldiers. Faculty members are divided. "Universities should not be involved in military activities," Sociology Professor Emeritus Herbert Gans told The Post. "Columbia should come out against spending $300 billion a year on unnecessary wars." A group of 34 faculty colleagues, including historian Kenneth Jackson and former Bloomberg adviser Esther Fuchs, plan to announce their support of ROTC tomorrow. José Robledo, 30, a Columbia student who commutes to Fordham University for ROTC coursework, said he found the treatment of Maschek abhorrent. "The anti-ROTC side has been disrespectful and loud. They hiss and they jeer," he said. "It's been to the detriment of the argument."[/quote] [url=http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/hero_unwelcome_Zi3u1fwtRpo87vXAiAQfSN]SOURCE[/url]

Fuck the war, love the soldier.

Well, at least he didn't come home from Vietnam. I feel sorry for him.

[QUOTE=s0beit;28204526]Well, at least he didn't come home from Vietnam. I feel sorry for him.[/QUOTE] It's true, he was shot 11 times and for what? Iraq is still fractured and an incredibly dangerous place to live, and the US has already withdrawn combat troops. [quote]Fuck the war, love the soldier.[/quote] Fuck the war, fuck the lies the soldier has been told, but still feel sympathy and love, and he too is a member of humanity.

Wow what a bunch of dicks. Show some fucking compassion the guy could have died.

Hahaha this is awesome. "dem brown people wunzta kill us god fearin mericuns. its peples liekk me who gotta put a few boolets in dem." Good job perpetuating the war we're not supporting dick head. There wouldn't be a war to protest about if dumbasses like him didn't sign up for it. [editline]22nd February 2011[/editline] Also lol @ biased NY Post article. "war hero", "bravely stepped up to the mike (sic)" Haha, how the hell do they misspell "mic". :downs: Good one Rupert.

[QUOTE=Contag;28204641]It's true, he was shot 11 times and for what? Fuck the war, fuck the lies the soldier has been told, but still feel sympathy and love, and he too is a member of humanity.[/QUOTE] Half the troops over there hate the war just as much, it's keeping them from their families. Most of the time people don't have other options but the army. You're being a dick just as well by calling him ignorant.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;28204743]Hahaha this is awesome. "dem brown people wunzta kill us god fearin mericuns. its peples liekk me who gotta put a few boolets in dem." Good job perpetuating the war we're not supporting dick head. There wouldn't be a war to protest about if dumbasses like him didn't sign up for it. [editline]22nd February 2011[/editline] Also lol @ biased NY Post article. "war hero", "bravely stepped up to the mike (sic)" Haha, how the hell do they misspell "mic". :downs: Good one Rupert.[/QUOTE] you know it's not that i necessarily disagree with you or anything, but you have to learn what the concept of subtlety is

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;28204743]Hahaha this is awesome. "dem brown people wunzta kill us god fearin mericuns. its peples liekk me who gotta put a few boolets in dem." Good job perpetuating the war we're not supporting dick head. There wouldn't be a war to protest about if dumbasses like him didn't sign up for it.[/QUOTE] I understand why some people were laughing, the guy got fucked up fighting in a war which has had pretty much only negative ramifications, and is now working to try and get other people to experience the same thing as him? Is he crazy? [quote]I got shot, and you can too![/quote]

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;28204743]Hahaha this is awesome. "dem brown people wunzta kill us god fearin mericuns. its peples liekk me who gotta put a few boolets in dem." Good job perpetuating the war we're not supporting dick head. There wouldn't be a war to protest about if dumbasses like him didn't sign up for it. [editline]22nd February 2011[/editline] Also lol @ biased NY Post article. "war hero", "bravely stepped up to the mike (sic)" Haha, how the hell do they misspell "mic". :downs: Good one Rupert.[/QUOTE] yeah come on, if he wasn't ACTIVELY supporting the war with his bullshit fear mongering then this would be unnecessary (well, more unnecessary still not that nice)

[QUOTE=agnl;28204791]Half the troops over there hate the war just as much, it's keeping them from their families. Most of the time people don't have other options but the army. You're being a dick just as well by calling him ignorant.[/QUOTE] No, I understand that the only reason he was in the military was probably for the GI bill so he *could* go to an Ivy League university, but campaigning for ROTC is taking it too far if he truly hated the wars. Not to mention parroting the rhetoric that convinced the American public that warmongering in the Middle East was necessary. [quote]"It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting," said Maschek. "There are bad men out there plotting to kill you."[/quote] Bad men like Al-Qaeda? Too bad they aren't linked to the Ba'ath Party and Saddam, and that Osama actually hated Hussein because he and his party were the reason why Iraq was secular, and there was a separation between Islam and the government. Good thing the US military found weapons of mass destruction? Oh, damn, they only had the chemical weapons the Americans gave them decades ago, and no nuclear or biological weapons. Too bad whilst in Iraq looking for WMDs, North Korea developed and successfully tested nuclear weapons. Good thing Iraq is free, right? Too bad the elections were fraudulent, at least partially. [url]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/iraqi-election-rigged-by-security-forces-poll-monitors-find/story-e6frg6so-1225841093102[/url]

[QUOTE=Murkat;28204669]Wow what a bunch of dicks. Show some fucking compassion the guy could have died.[/QUOTE] and now he's in universities promoting the army so that more people can end up just like him fantastic

I wonder if the jeering came before or after he started saying stupid shit, it really really matters Can someone find another source that likes to put reporting facts ahead of whatever it is the New York Post does?

I read the article 3 times looking for Westboro I was disappointed :smith:

He deserved it to be honest, spreading stupid racist bullshit about 'dem musleem teroreests'

There's no anti-Western Islamic extremism in Iraq? E: He didn't say anything racist, or anti-Islamic. He merely stated a fact.

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28205051]There's no anti-Western Islamic extremism in Iraq? E: He didn't say anything racist, or anti-Islamic. He merely stated a fact.[/QUOTE] "there are bad men out there plotting to kill you" isn't stating a fact it's fear mongering.

Because it's untrue, isn't it. Let me guess, Islamic extremism doesn't exist it's all just fair response to Western aggression.

Only people who didn't do well in school, and as a result didnt get accepted into a good college, join the military. Good luck recruiting people from Columbia...

[QUOTE=ken188;28205145]Only people who didn't do well in school, and as a result didnt get accepted into a good college, join the military. Good luck recruiting people from Columbia...[/QUOTE] Because the military is only made of people who barely have a high-school education.

[QUOTE=ken188;28205145]Only people who didn't do well in school, and as a result didnt get accepted into a good college, join the military. Good luck recruiting people from Columbia...[/QUOTE] I hope you're fucking joking.

[QUOTE=agnl;28204791]Half the troops over there hate the war just as much, it's keeping them from their families. Most of the time people don't have other options but the army. You're being a dick just as well by calling him ignorant.[/QUOTE] How can the sentiment "Some soldiers have no choice other than the army" coexist with "all soldiers are noble people"? Just something I'm wondering about.

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28205092]Because it's untrue, isn't it. Let me guess, Islamic extremism doesn't exist it's all just fair response to Western aggression.[/QUOTE] Explain to me, HOW THE FUCK Iraq is an example of Islamic extremism? PLEASE!? Yeah, wow, gassing the Sunni Muslim Kurds and oppressing the Shi'ites whilst being the leader of a secular state is certainly being a good, extremist and fundamentalist Muslim, right? Why do you think the god damn country was at war with the Islamic Republic of Iran for about a decade? Because it was a SECULAR, Arab Nationalist state, with a little bit of Marxism thrown in. Islamists call for a pan-arabia Islamic state (modeled on the former caliphates) with no separation between Islam and the state.

Fiddy ain't got shit on this guy

[QUOTE=Hesychasmos;28205394]Fiddy ain't got shit on this guy[/QUOTE] You mean other than the fact that one is a drug dealer who was shot in the United States with a 9mm pistol, whereas the other was a soldier fighting for his country (or rather, that country's politicians and their interests) in a civil war on the other side of the world from home with a 7.62mm assault rifle?

Regardless of what he said that's just plain disrespectful.

[QUOTE=MachiniOs;28206401]Regardless of what he said that's just plain disrespectful.[/QUOTE] and he didn't disrespect them?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;28206446]and he didn't disrespect them?[/QUOTE] Even so, he is a victim, he just doesn't know it, which makes it infinitely sadder. I mean, yes, I understand the reaction of the Columbia students, but this guy needs to be talked to in a reasonable way. Then again, if I almost died for something that was bullshit, I'd probably rather believe it was for noble causes as well.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;28204743]Hahaha this is awesome. "dem brown people wunzta kill us god fearin mericuns. its peples liekk me who gotta put a few boolets in dem." Good job perpetuating the war we're not supporting dick head. There wouldn't be a war to protest about if dumbasses like him didn't sign up for it. [editline]22nd February 2011[/editline] Also lol @ biased NY Post article. "war hero", "bravely stepped up to the mike (sic)" Haha, how the hell do they misspell "mic". :downs: Good one Rupert.[/QUOTE] [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/frog-ssj3.gif[/img]

I'm reluctant to believe that's the full story by NYPOST or any story by them for that matter. Here's their opinion piece on it: [quote] "It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting," said Maschek. "There are bad men out there plotting to kill you." An unremarkable assertion, all in all. The response? Laughter. Catcalls. And the usual sophistries about gay rights, economic justice, America's hobnailed boots, whatever -- the same bushwa dragged out by the academy whenever it feels the need to deflect attention from the obvious, which is that it hates the military and has for more than a generation. Read more: [URL]http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/columbia_dishonor_SX0VNDvvfdl9SePzswPNbP#ixzz1Eh8m3MoM[/URL][/quote] [editline]22nd February 2011[/editline] They also make gay rights seem like a bad thing