Muslim store clerk pointing rifle at robber shows mercy to him by giving him $40 and a loaf of bread - General

[video=youtube;SoRiYOplcwY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoRiYOplcwY[/video] [URL="http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Thug-Thanks-Would-Be-Victim-For-Saving-His-Life-78431122.html"]Thank you letter that the robber apparently wrote.[/URL] [URL="http://www.newsday.com/long-island/obituaries/mohammed-sohail-48-who-gave-robber-money-dies-1.2243135"]The clerk died RIP.[/URL]

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[QUOTE=glitchvid;44778261]I feel a point could be made about conversion when you have a gun in your face, but I don't really want to make it. I'll just bring this quote up again: "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg.[/QUOTE] The clerk didn't force him, the guy offered. And that quote makes no sense, good people can only become bad because of religion? Give me a break.

If there is ever a man to deserve the afterlife of his religion, this man is one of them.

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[QUOTE=Fayez;44778375]The clerk didn't force him, the guy offered. And that quote makes no sense, good people can only become bad because of religion? Give me a break.[/QUOTE] I don't know man there's plenty of decent people I know that have questionable stances on certain issues just because they believe in a man in the sky

he is the man all Muslim should model themselves after In fact, all man should model themselves after him. it's a shame islamic men and women are despised, a lot of them are good people. [QUOTE=Matrix374;44778483]I don't know man there's plenty of decent people I know that have questionable stances on certain issues just because they believe in a man in the sky[/QUOTE] Atheists can be really shit too though I feel there are more religious murderers (for example) out there because there are more religious people to begin with that and crazy and religious doesn't mix at all, but Religious folk are perfectly good

[QUOTE=J!NX;44778489] Atheists can be really shit too though I feel there are more religious murderers (for example) out there because there are more religious people to begin with that and crazy and religious doesn't mix at all, but Religious folk are perfectly good[/QUOTE] I never said they can't but what excuse can an Atheist give if he's an asshole? There's nothing that ties Atheists together like religion does. Religion has very (un)clear set of rules that they have to follow which serves as a guideline. It is much easier for crazy religious people to get into power among their people than it is for an Atheist

[QUOTE=J!NX;44778489]he is the man all Muslim should model themselves after In fact, all man should model themselves after him. it's a shame islamic men and women are despised, a lot of them are good people. Atheists can be really shit too though I feel there are more religious murderers (for example) out there because there are more religious people to begin with that and crazy and religious doesn't mix at all[/QUOTE]My view of the world is somewhat like the Martin Luther King quote "Judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character". Basically, if you're a shitty person, then you're a shitty person, it doesn't really matter what the color of your skin is or what religion you follow. We shouldn't judge people based on their religion or ethnicity, but by how good of a person they are.

[QUOTE=Killer900;44778568]My view of the world is somewhat like the Martin Luther King quote "Judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character". Basically, if you're a shitty person, then you're a shitty person, it doesn't really matter what the color of your skin is or what religion you follow. We shouldn't judge people based on their religion or ethnicity, but by how good of a person they are.[/QUOTE] What does it say of a man who would compromise his own moral integrity because a book, or man in the sky said so?

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44778863]What does it say of a man who would compromise his own moral integrity because a book, or man in the sky said so?[/QUOTE] Don't worry. The book supports any side of any issue. What they pick out of the book just reflects their personal values in most cases.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44778261]I feel a point could be made about conversion when you have a gun in your face, but I don't really want to make it. I'll just bring this quote up again: "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=glitchvid;44778863]What does it say of a man who would compromise his own moral integrity because a book, or man in the sky said so?[/QUOTE] How did I know that the second I read the title of this thread that you would be in here spouting your skepticism bullshit

Dang it's a shame he died, he was a good man. Condolescences to the family and everyone who loved him. [editline]11th May 2014[/editline] Death comes always too late on rotten bastards and too soon on good people.

Article is five years old and the guy died four years go. I mean it's a nice story and all, but relevance?

[QUOTE=Killer900;44778568]My view of the world is somewhat like the Martin Luther King quote "Judge a man not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character". Basically, if you're a shitty person, then you're a shitty person, it doesn't really matter what the color of your skin is or what religion you follow. We shouldn't judge people based on their religion or ethnicity, but by how good of a person they are.[/QUOTE] i'm not quite sure why religion is grouped in with ethnicity here. i mean don't get me wrong, the quote is great, and so is your idea. but religion is a lot more something you can be concious about, and choose, and make decisions with or from. I know you can't choose your race. You can, and readily do, choose your god and religion. I don't feel that it deserves to be in the same spot as race when we talk of this. [editline]11th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=LZTYBRN;44778925]How did I know that the second I read the title of this thread that you would be in here spouting your skepticism bullshit[/QUOTE] how exactly is "skepticism" bullshit, or how is he peddling "skepticism bullshit" i don't understand how you can possibly be calling a moral high ground from that.

In every thread related to religion over on SH or in the forums in general, he comes in talking about how more people should be skeptics and how "religion is a terrible construct and only morally flawed people believe in religion" I'm not religious but that shit just gets tiring, not trying to claim any kind of ground here.

[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;44779433]In every thread related to religion over on SH or in the forums in general, he comes in talking about how more people should be skeptics and how "religion is a terrible construct and only morally flawed people believe in religion" I'm not religious but that shit just gets tiring, not trying to claim any kind of ground here.[/QUOTE] I do it because people like you clearly don't read my posts. Not once have you actually argued against my point, you just go [QUOTE=LZTYBRN;44761545] Nobody is gonna be turned to the "light" because some dude on the internet who's obsessed with skepticism said they should be more skeptical god damn [/QUOTE] I see problems because of religion, I'm genuinely scared for Atheists to continue being able to speak freely, for Science to be able to progress. That you simply dismiss genuine arguments, and fail to see true, real, serious issues caused by religion just makes me really upset. We have problems, and I'm TRYING to educate people to fix them. What you are doing is the equivalent of going around and saying "oh well, you're just preaching that birth control bullshit", it produces problems. I have already tried to address your posts, I've done my damndest: [QUOTE=glitchvid;44761737]I don't think you're reading what I'm posting. Religion (All of it, Faith) does not require evidence for belief. This in itself is damaging to everyone. Saying "As long as nobody is getting hurt.." is a massive cop out. Look at the title of the thread for evidence, look at Scientology, Look at the anti-birth control movement sprung from Christianity. And nobody SHOULD be turned to the ""light"" because I said so, they should look up facts for themselves. It seems you are realizing you have no ground to stand on, so you're going "yeah, well nobody will listen to you anyway". My intention isn't to convert a person to anything, the best I can achieve is to get you and others to think about what they believe in a rational way. Look: [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/oct/09/aids[/url] [url]http://forums.randi.org/index.php?pageid=dover[/url] [url]http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2011/03/report_nantucket_child_killed_exorcism[/url] And many, many more is all possible because people do not rationally think, do not apply the scientific method to their everyday life: and religion is the reason for this.[/QUOTE] That you reply to that with [QUOTE=LZTYBRN;44779433]In every thread related to religion over on SH or in the forums in general, he comes in talking about how more people should be skeptics and how "religion is a terrible construct and only morally flawed people believe in religion" [/QUOTE] Just feels so very upsetting to me. I just don't know if I can put it in words, Religion is a GENUINE problem, the scientific method is a GENUINE solution; that you are kicking and fighting every way just made me try to prove to you better. But I think that you don't care to find a real unbiased position, and because of that, I will respect your wishes for me to just shut up, and I will lay off of my "skeptical bullshit", I see that you just don't want to listen, I talked to many who do not want to listen, and I am scared.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44778261]I feel a point could be made about conversion when you have a gun in your face, but I don't really want to make it. I'll just bring this quote up again: "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg.[/QUOTE] Horribly dumb quote, regardless of who it came from. [editline]11th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Matrix374;44778520]I never said they can't but what excuse can an Atheist give if he's an asshole? There's nothing that ties Atheists together like religion does. Religion has very (un)clear set of rules that they have to follow which serves as a guideline. It is much easier for crazy religious people to get into power among their people than it is for an Atheist[/QUOTE] You have had countless murderous secular governments in history and some still survive to today. To suggest an Atheist cant be tied to some sort of party or power structure is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=NuggetWarmer;44779132]Article is five years old and the guy died four years go. I mean it's a nice story and all, but relevance?[/QUOTE] I got tired of all the "Muslim did this horrible thing" or "It's good to hate Islam" threads.

idk why so many motherfuckers think that because religion is a thing, science is at risk fuck, the vatican has an awesome science department, religion doesn't mean you revert back to a technological stone age

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44779522]I do it because people like you clearly don't read my posts. Not once have you actually argued against my point, you just go I see problems because of religion, I'm genuinely scared for Atheists to continue being able to speak freely, for Science to be able to progress. That you simply dismiss genuine arguments, and fail to see true, real, serious issues caused by religion just makes me really upset. We have problems, and I'm TRYING to educate people to fix them. What you are doing is the equivalent of going around and saying "oh well, you're just preaching that birth control bullshit", it produces problems. I have already tried to address your posts, I've done my damndest: That you reply to that with Just feels so very upsetting to me. I just don't know if I can put it in words, Religion is a GENUINE problem, the scientific method is a GENUINE solution; that you are kicking and fighting every way just made me try to prove to you better. But I think that you don't care to find a real unbiased position, and because of that, I will respect your wishes for me to just shut up, and I will lay off of my "skeptical bullshit", I see that you just don't want to listen, I talked to many who do not want to listen, and I am scared.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]‘Prisoner of conscience’: Saudi blogger gets 10 years, 1000 lashes for ‘insulting Islam’[/QUOTE] Religion didn't cause him to get that - human stupidity and ignorance did, religion is only a part of the issue religion and ignorance might not mix, but Islam and Christianity aren't even close to Scientology I agree science would be better, but stupid people who are controlled by religion will just be controlled by something else, there wouldn't be a whole lot that would change actually. I don't think religion is the issue, it's literally just stupid people. [editline]11th May 2014[/editline] though, religion is much of the time used for brainwashing, but still, look at north korea

Plus, no matter how good science get, it will never be abble to answer the question of what's coming after death. Some people can't deal with that and prefer to find an answer in a religious way, which is perfectly fine. If it makes them more comfortable living that way, what's the big deal ? If a person isn't extremist in his/her ideologies, I can't see the problem there.

How can he own a rifle like that? I thought gun laws in New York were really strict?

[QUOTE=X-tra;44780932]Plus, no matter how good science get, it will never be abble to answer the question of what's coming after death. Some people can't deal with that and prefer to find an answer in a religious way, which is perfectly fine. If it makes them more comfortable living that way, what's the big deal ? If a person isn't extremist in his/her ideologies, I can't see the problem there.[/QUOTE] Religion doesn't answer what happens after death anyways either, but at least it gives one comfort to be honest religion becomes an issue when they're so comfortable with the idea of life after death that they don't live their life and are consumed by the idea of Christ or Allah or other but aside from that I wish more people thought like you and others in the thread.

[QUOTE=Satansick;44780938]How can he own a rifle like that? I thought gun laws in New York were really strict?[/QUOTE] Five year old video

imagine walking into a store with the intention of robbing it and coming out a muslim

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44778863]What does it say of a man who would compromise his own moral integrity because a book, or man in the sky said so?[/QUOTE] lol someone is having a phase after watcing true detective move along folks, nothing to see here.

[QUOTE=glitchvid;44779522]Just feels so very upsetting to me. I just don't know if I can put it in words, Religion is a GENUINE problem, the scientific method is a GENUINE solution; that you are kicking and fighting every way just made me try to prove to you better. But I think that you don't care to find a real unbiased position, and because of that, I will respect your wishes for me to just shut up, and I will lay off of my "skeptical bullshit", I see that you just don't want to listen, I talked to many who do not want to listen, and I am scared.[/QUOTE] It's not that I have a problem with you believing that the scientific method is the solution to the problem, it's that you think the scientific method is the ONLY solution to the problem. The scientific method is fine and dandy but it really isn't the be-all, end-all you seem to think it is

[QUOTE=Shark Cat;44781249]imagine walking into a store with the intention of robbing it and coming out a muslim[/QUOTE] And $40 and some bread. Hey maybe robbing aint so bad after all.

[QUOTE=LZTYBRN;44781551]It's not that I have a problem with you believing that the scientific method is the solution to the problem, it's that you think the scientific method is the ONLY solution to the problem. The scientific method is fine and dandy but it really isn't the be-all, end-all you seem to think it is[/QUOTE] nothing about your current world would really exist without it it's a lot more than you give it credit for at the very least.