Connecticut Senate passes bill removing Wright Brothers from history books - Polidicks

[URL]http://wtkr.com/2013/06/06/connecticut-senate-passes-bill-removing-wright-brothers-from-history-books/[/URL] [quote]The Connecticut Senate passed a bill Wednesday that would eliminate the Wright brothers from history, explicitly stripping recognition for the first powered flight from Orville and Wilbur and assigning it to someone else. “The Governor shall proclaim a date certain in each year as Powered Flight Day to honor the first powered flight by [the Wright brothers] Gustave Whitehead and to commemorate the Connecticut aviation and aerospace industry,” reads House Bill No. 6671, which now sits on the Governor’s desk awaiting passage into law.[/quote]

How is fucking with information commemorating anything. [editline]6th June 2013[/editline] All there is to support some unheard of guy did it first is a supposed picture. "Guys you'll believe me when you see the picture no I won't show you the picture." [editline]6th June 2013[/editline] So I found a picture, but it doesn't look like it was powered at all.

God dammit Connecticut, stop making me embarrassed to live here.

A bit more research shows Whitehead made gliders, not airplanes.

WHY

[QUOTE=Durrsly;40923285]A bit more research shows Whitehead made gliders, not airplanes.[/QUOTE] They're talking about his "number 21" plane. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Whitehead_woodcut.jpg[/IMG] It had two sets of engines (one for the wheels, one for the props). So, yeah, he made airplanes, but no one is really sure if his flew because all the information about his 1901 flight (including the drawing) comes from one reporter.

This is ridiculous. Regardless of whether or not Whitehead did before the Wright bros, the Wrights were the first to actually be documented alongside photographic evidence. They have no photos of Gustave's planes in motion, only his gliders. You'd think an occasion like that would attract cameramen. Silly way to think, but it's all we can truly go on in deciding who did what in a time period like that.

I didn't know they could do that, considering the Wright Brothers made their first flight in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

Yeah well now the Governor should proclaim his retirement because he's a dumbshit

I hate to generalise here, but [I]this[/I] is what your government, even in a state-by-state basis from sane to crazy, is doing. [I]This[/I] is what they're wasting their time and your money doing.

removing stuff from the history books sounds like some dumb plot device from an assassins creed game or metal gear. how is this a thing

There's a lot of funky history in textbooks, but the Wright brother's first flight is rather set in stone. What a fucking moron.

[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;40923376]removing stuff from the history books sounds like some dumb plot device from an assassins creed game or metal gear. how is this a thing[/QUOTE] The wright brothers were the real pilots of the shagohod?

Sometimes you have to look at a history book critically: is this the whole story, is this all there is to it?

[video=youtube;aq4UGiVEF80]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq4UGiVEF80[/video]

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;40923413]Sometimes you have to look at a history book critically: is this the whole story, is this all there is to it?[/QUOTE] US history books go out of their way to prevent critical thinking, which is a shame since that's pretty much the most necessary skill needed in studying it.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;40923441]US history books go out of their way to prevent critical thinking, which is a shame since that's pretty much the most necessary skill needed in studying it.[/QUOTE] There ain't no critical thinking in picking an answer A through D on the SATs and ACTs! :eng101:

[QUOTE=Protocol7;40923447]There ain't no critical thinking in picking an answer A through D on the SATs and ACTs! :eng101:[/QUOTE] Another reason why the American education system is utter shit. No wonder we needed captured Nazi scientists to get to the moon.

[QUOTE=Reds;40923366]I hate to generalise here, but [I]this[/I] is what your government, even in a state-by-state basis from sane to crazy, is doing. [I]This[/I] is what they're wasting their time and your money doing.[/QUOTE]Now imagine how the people living in the US feel for having to put up with this bullshit. Fucking hilarious isn't it?

Well if the guy flew first, then it should say he flew first. end

[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;40923621]Well if the guy flew first, then it should say he flew first. end[/QUOTE] You seem to miss the entire point of the controversy.

[QUOTE=Neo Kabuto;40923297]They're talking about his "number 21" plane. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Whitehead_woodcut.jpg[/IMG] It had two sets of engines (one for the wheels, one for the props). So, yeah, he made airplanes, but no one is really sure if his flew because all the information about his 1901 flight (including the drawing) comes from one reporter.[/QUOTE] Oh, so it is: [QUOTE]"Guys you'll believe me when you see the picture no I won't show you the picture."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Durrsly;40923667]Oh, so it is:[/QUOTE] "But just trust me guys it TOTALLY happened" In a nutshell, this.

[QUOTE=Durrsly;40923667]"Guys you'll believe me when you see the picture no I won't show you the picture."[/QUOTE] I doubt they could take a really good photo of a plane going 40 MPH in 1901. There are pictures of it on the ground, though. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Plane_rear_w_crew.jpg[/IMG] The issue is that the guy never took any notes about his flights, and the reports about them didn't all tell the same story.

[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;40923621]Well if the guy flew first, then it should say he flew first. end[/QUOTE] If we followed this logic, the first man to fly was an arab man in the 800's who jumped off a cliff covered in bird feathers.

I thought a Frenchman first made powered in the 1850s? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Giffard1852.jpg[/img] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffard_dirigible[/url]

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40923939]I thought a Frenchman first made powered in the 1850s? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Giffard1852.jpg[/img] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffard_dirigible[/url][/QUOTE] Dirigibles were a different situation, because they were aided purely by hydrogen gas.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40923939]I thought a Frenchman first made powered in the 1850s? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Giffard1852.jpg[/img] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffard_dirigible[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah but this isn't a plane.

[QUOTE=Water-Marine;40923965]Dirigibles were a different situation, because they were aided purely by hydrogen gas.[/QUOTE] what is the criteria for powered flight? personally i think the wright brothers shouldn't necessarily get all the credit. maybe whitehead did do it first. it should be stated that a lot of people were trying similar things at the time and that the wrights were simply the first well documented example.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40923939]I thought a Frenchman first made powered in the 1850s? [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Giffard1852.jpg[/img] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffard_dirigible[/url][/QUOTE] That's powered-lighter-than-air. We're talking about powered-heavier-than-air.