• On Probation? Have to take random drug tests? Can't Smoke Weed? - Legal Smoke Subsitute
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Okay so its come to my attention over the last couple years marijuana is useful to my mental health. Also what has come to my attention is I can't do that while on probation...so after serving a couple months for dirty tests I realized I can't do this anymore and had to find something to replace it. Well my friend(who is also on probation) told me his mom picked up something called spice and it was like weed but [b]does not show up on drug tests[/b]. He brought some to school for us to smoke, and man I had doubts. But I was proven wrong by the fact it not only gave me the perfect cranial lift but also cotton mouth and a serious case of the munchies. So I bring this information to all being put down by the man. [b]SPICE INFO[/b] Salvia too in your Face? Can't find a good mushroom hook? Wanna get stoned but you have a drug test to pass? [img]http://www.drogy.net/images/articles/spice-ban-as-tests-show-legal-herbal-drug-is-as-potent-as-cannabis_2009_08_12.jpg[/img] Q: What is it and Whats in it? A: [quote=Wikipedia]Spice is a brand name for a mixture of herbs that has been sold in smartshops in Europe, Canada and other parts of the world since around 2002, purportedly as an incense, as well as over the Internet as an "herbal smoking blend". Even though the manufacturer officially warns against human ingestion of Spice, it is usually smoked for its cannabis-like effects which are believed to be caused by a mixture of synthetic cannabinoid drugs. Several different "flavours" of Spice have been marketed which have been shown to contain different proportions of the synthetic cannabinoid active ingredients, and reportedly produce subtly different effects.[/quote] [b]Oh and it has a hallucinogenic effect is enough is used, which wouldn't be much since I walked a good 150 feet after taking a good 4-5 lung-shriveling rips and when I realized I could feel that edge of my mind about to be blown, like when a psychedelic drug kicks in and takes you for a ride.[/b] Q: How strong is it compared to marijuana? A: About 4x stronger than cannabis and lasts longer too. Q: What types are there? A: Spice, Spice Gold, and Spice diamond, and they taste really good. Q: Do they show up on a drug test? A: No, It does not. Common drug testing methods only check for the 6-7 main drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, heroin etc... Spice and products just like it contain synthetic chemicals such as JWH-018 and HU-210, which are cannabinoids that are not tested for. Needless to say, there could be a test out there that is specifically made to test for chemicals of that nature, but the chances of you getting one are slim to none. Q: How much does it cost? A: Unfortunately $20-30 a gram. Though package deals are available for say $80 for 6 grams. [b]What also has come to my knowledge is that is it starting to be banned in many countries. But that does not mean there are other products on the market with the same effects.[/b] [b]Also don't smoke out of a pre-resonated pipe, as that will heat up the resin and make you show up dirty.[/b] [b]Other 'legal highs'[/b] [b]Salvia divinorum[/b] Rare plant found in Mexican mountains, smoked or chewed to give intense hallucinations. Drew controversy after suicide of American teenager who had used it. Banned in some US states and Australia [b]Snow Blow[/b] Caffeine-based powder snorted to give an energetic, lively high. May cause dehydration and raise heart rate [b]Mephedrone[/b] Marketed as “plant food”, 4-methylmethcathinone is a stimulant described as giving experiences similar to crystal meth. Banned in Sweden after death of 18-year old woman. Widespread popularity led Tayside police to warn clubbers about it last month [b]Happy caps[/b] “Party pills” containing geranium extract and caffeine marketed to boost energy and “heighten awareness” [b]Kratom[/b] Powdered extract from plants grown in Thailand. Narcotic with stimulant effects, though can work as sedative at higher doses with similar effects to opiates. Controlled in some areas of southeast Asia
Are the chemicals in it safe though?
I can get the same stuff only different brand at a local smoke shop just out of town for 45 bucks for 3 grams. In bumfuck iowa too which is cool.
[QUOTE=theXinferno;21115118]Are the chemicals in it safe though?[/QUOTE] Totally, they are essentially the same chemicals, just not the ones they look for in drug tests.
I tried something similar, it felt like mids and lasted for like 5 minutes.
Honestly for some reason I get fucking ripped of the shit. And Im a daily weed smoker.
[QUOTE=biglikeox;21115224]Honestly for some reason I get fucking ripped of the shit. And Im a daily weed smoker.[/QUOTE] See I thought the same thing, cause I was like well if some one has a high tolerance built up it won't work(I usually do, but I'm on house arrest blah blah blah) and my friend smoked it with the other stated friend and he got really stoned apparently, which is kinda baffling since it brings the same effects.
This kid who goes to a school where they test him (he gets paid to go.) told me about it. Sure enough took a road trip and got HIGH AS FUCK. I was soo ripped imagine how high he was he hadnt smoked in like 4 months.
Know any place where i can get some via the internet? And is it legal in Australia?
[quote=Wikipedia][b]Legal status[/b] Austria The Austrian Ministry of Health announced on 18 December 2008 that Spice would be controlled under Paragraph 78 of their drug law on the grounds that it contains an active substance which affects the functions of the body, and the legality of JWH-018 is under review. Brazil Spice is currently legal in Brazil. [Canada] Spice is currently legal in Canada. Health Canada is debating on the subject. Chile The Chilean Ministry of Health on April 24, 2009 declared the sale of Spice to be illegal. Estonia The Minister of Social Affairs has signed a draft regulation, adding synthetic cannabinoids to the list of narcotics and psychotropic substances. Thus the import/export, sale and possession of Spice and its analogues will be treated as a drug-related offense according to the Penal Code. Germany JWH-018, CP 47,497 and the C6, C8 and C9 homologues of CP 47,497 are illegal in Germany since 22nd of January 2009. Finland Spice blends are classified as a medicine in Finland and therefore it is illegal to order them without a prescription. In practice it's not possible to get a prescription. France JWH-018, CP 47,497 (and its homologues) and HU-210 were all made illegal in France on 24th of February 2009. New Zealand Spice is currently legal in New Zealand. Poland JWH-018 and many of the herbs mentioned on the fictional ingredient lists (in Spice and similar drugs) were made illegal in May 2009. The bill was passed by Polish Sejm,[22][23] Polish Senat[24] and was signed by the President. Romania Spice is considered illegal in Romania, starting with the 15th of February, 2010 Russia On April 9, 2009, the Chief Medical Officer of the Russian Federation issued a resolution on reinforcing control over the sales of smoking blends. These blends, marketed under the trade names AM-HI-CO, Dream, Spice (Gold, Diamond), Zoom, Ex-ses, Yucatan Fire and others have been declared to contain Salvia divinorum, Hawaiian Rose and Blue Lotus and are prohibited to be sold. These substances have been found to have "psychotropic, narcotic effects, contain poisonous components and represent potential threat for humans." The resolution does not mention JWH-018 or other synthetic cannabinoids.[27] On January 14, 2010, the Russian government issued a statement including 23 synthetic cannabinoids found in smoking blends along with Diviner’s Sage (as well as its active compound Salvinorin A), Hawaiian Rose and Blue Lotus on the list of prohibited narcotic and psychotropic substances. Thus, all of these plants and compounds are now illegal in the Russian Federation. Slovak Republic Spice is still legal in Slovak Republic. National Anti-Drug Unit is considering adding it to the list of controlled substances[29]. The latest anti-drug law version (468/2009) valid since January 2010 still does not mention active compounds of Spice. South Korea As of July 1 2009, South Korea has officially added JWH-018, CP 47,497 and HU-210 to the controlled substance list, effectively making these chemicals illegal. Sweden CP 47,497-C6, CP 47,497-C7, CP 47,497-C8, CP 47,497-C9, JWH-018, JWH-073 and HU-210 were all made illegal in Sweden on 15th of September 2009. The bill was accepted on 30 July 2009 and was put in effect on 15 September 2009. Switzerland Spice has been banned in Switzerland United Kingdom Spice was legal in the United Kingdom until December 2009, when it was classified as a Class B drug. USA Spice is currently not a scheduled drug in the USA.[35] If it is true that Spice contains synthetic cannabinoids, it may be illegal under the Federal Analog Act.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Heckler Stev;21115388][/QUOTE] [LIST FROM WIKIPEDIA OF LEGAL STATUSSES] Australia isn't mentioned on there, so I'm going to assume it's legal. And it's legal in New Zealand, and we're quite similar. Any idea of where i can buy it from?
[QUOTE=phill977;21115447][LIST FROM WIKIPEDIA OF LEGAL STATUSSES] Australia isn't mentioned on there, so I'm going to assume it's legal. And it's legal in New Zealand, and we're quite similar. Any idea of where i can buy it from?[/QUOTE] Try a pipe shop, cigar shop, cigarettes store, something along those lines that sells products required for smoking, except gas stations.
Good thread. Should put a list of drugs that get out of your system fast.
[QUOTE=Luke510;21115590]Good thread. Should put a list of drugs that get out of your system fast.[/QUOTE] Well I know methamphetamine, opiates(heroin, vicodin, oxy contin, etc.), benzodiazepines (xanax, valium, zoloft, etc.) quaaludes (tranquilizers), things like ketamine is typically like 3-5 days at most, ecstasy is about 3 days, cough syrup/nightime drowzy cold medication(DXM) is typically the same I believe, PCP is like 8 days(which would probably show up since you normally get tested every week on probation), mushrooms show up as food poisoning which can be explainable, acid can show up only in hair follicle tests I believe and for some crazy reason they spinal tap you for a drug test. And they typically don't test for mescaline unless they have reason to believe you are using mescaline. Specially issued government tests have alcohol tests that can test for up to 80 hours. You can also get really tweaked off benadryl if you eat like 12-30 depending on how fucked up you want get and how high your thresh hold is on certain highs.
Vicodin comes out of your system pretty fast too.
Acid is out of your system as soon as the effects end. It's awesome.
Instead of buying Spice you should buy JWH-018 (And other chemicals if you want) and mix them with herbs (Amsterdam Gold or Earth Impact are good choices) You get a really strong Spice-product for only 1-2 dollars a gram.
Salvia
Ridiculously overpriced. Just buy pure JWH-018, I've smoked almost a gram of the stuff and it gets me fucking blazed.
[QUOTE=catch33;21124587]Ridiculously overpriced. Just buy pure JWH-018, I've smoked almost a gram of the stuff and it gets me fucking blazed.[/QUOTE] Where does one purchase said chemical?
[QUOTE=Heckler Stev;21115678]Well I know methamphetamine, opiates(heroin, vicodin, oxy contin, etc.), benzodiazepines (xanax, valium, zoloft, etc.) quaaludes (tranquilizers), things like ketamine is typically like 3-5 days at most, ecstasy is about 3 days, cough syrup/nightime drowzy cold medication(DXM) is typically the same I believe, PCP is like 8 days([B]which would probably show up since you normally get tested every week on probation[/B]), mushrooms show up as food poisoning which can be explainable, acid can show up only in hair follicle tests I believe and for some crazy reason they spinal tap you for a drug test. And they typically don't test for mescaline unless they have reason to believe you are using mescaline. Specially issued government tests have alcohol tests that can test for up to 80 hours. You can also get really tweaked off benadryl if you eat like 12-30 depending on how fucked up you want get and how high your thresh hold is on certain highs.[/QUOTE] I don't know where the fuck you live, but in Canada, I do NOT get drug-tested on probation (even if I'm not allowed to possess or use any kind of un-prescribed drugs).
America Maybe?
[QUOTE=Dirtbox;21132325]I don't know where the fuck you live, but in Canada, I do NOT get drug-tested on probation (even if I'm not allowed to possess or use any kind of un-prescribed drugs).[/QUOTE] Yeah along the line someone thought it would be a good psychological idea to make it illegal for you to be out past 10:30pm-6am. drug test you quite frequently and watch you piss in a cup.
Damn governments.
[QUOTE=phill977;21115447][LIST FROM WIKIPEDIA OF LEGAL STATUSSES] Australia isn't mentioned on there, so I'm going to assume it's legal. And it's legal in New Zealand, and we're quite similar. Any idea of where i can buy it from?[/QUOTE] We're NOT similar. You guys don't even have an R18 game rating
JWHs are completely different from THC like structure.
[QUOTE=Heckler Stev;21115101] Q: What types are there? A: Spice, Spice Gold, and Spice diamond, and they taste really good. [/QUOTE] Spice Arctic Synergy and Tropical Synergy. There are a lot of blends out there that contain synthetic cannabinoids with similar effects. If one were to make a thread, it should've been about these in general.
[QUOTE=Hamushka11;21137766]We're NOT similar. You guys don't even have an R18 game rating[/QUOTE] Are you from New Zealand?
Well I've discovered something quite useful: [url]http://jwh018supplier.com/[/url] Basically a website that supplies you with the chemical at an insanely high concentration that is almost completely pure, plus you can buy in bulk, and I just might try to market it locally sprinkled on some of that shit that resembles vaporized weed.
Isn't 2mg quite a high dose of JWH018?
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