Life extension technology? Let's give it to prisoners to make them suffer! - Polidicks

Saw this linked from an (equally ridiculous) article on the Daily Mail, don't think it's been posted before. Oh, and I think it really takes the big DM to a new level of utter idiocy. [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2580828/Could-soon-create-hell-EARTH-Biotechnology-let-extend-criminals-lives-makes-suffering-HUNDREDS-years.html[/url] [quote]Sentencing a criminal to 1,000 years in an artificial hell may one day become a reality. At least, that is the claim of scientists at Oxford University who have been exploring controversial technologies that could extend human life. They say billions are being invested in techniques that could mean the cruellest criminals will be kept alive indefinitely in condition befitting their crime. ... According to their research, prison firms could also develop drugs that make time pass slowly, making an inmate’s sentence feel like an eternity. Last year, a team of scientists led by Rebecca Roache began exploring technologies that could keep prisoners in an artificial hell. ... ‘Some crimes are so bad they require a really long period of punishment, and a lot of people seem to get out of that punishment by dying,’ Dr Roache told Ross Andersen in Aeon magazine.[/quote] I mean, come on... This literally reads like satire. It even has a hilter pic :v:

Artificially extending someone's life with the single intention of making them suffer? Yeah, no.

Digitally upload someone to make them suffer, watch them somehow pull magic, hack the system, get out into the internet and spread everywhere with the single goal of eliminating humanity.

Demolition Man?

Hahahaha what the hell. That's literally going against the point of prisons; keeping dangerous criminals out of society until they are rehabilitated enough to go out (if ever). This is just turning a prison into an elaborate revenge.

[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;44235368]Demolition Man?[/QUOTE] Get your ass to Mars! (I feel I may not be referencing the right movie...)

No, what they're fucking saying is that we're working on life extension for the betterment of mankind and the fucking cock smokers who read the daily mail want to enact their fantasies and watch folk literally spend thousands of years losing their minds in solitary confinement. Dr. Roache professional dong lover extraordinare is also, almost certainly not qualified to discuss anything in relation to do with fucking prisons, prisoners or their mental state in their future of 4 walls a few meals and fuck all else to do. Fucking wankers.

[QUOTE=woolio1;44235379]Get your ass to Mars! (I feel I may not be referencing the right movie...)[/QUOTE] That's total recall wtf

Wow, that would be crazy to see someone unhooked from something like that after 8 hours and see what sort of reactions they have.

I actually really hope that Aubrey de Grey hears about this and shoots her down about using shit developed by his foundations as forms of torture.

[QUOTE=Matthew0505;44235448]On the plus side it's a way to trick righties into funding progress under the guise of sadism.[/QUOTE] Or really we could just educate people better so they weren't fucking morons.

If fantasy tropes have thought be anything, nothing ever emerges from a thousand years imprisonment well-adjusted and ready to contribute to society.

This is quite literally ripped from Bleach. [sp]Kurotsuchi Mayuri used the same sort of drugs to beat what's his name again, Szayel Aporro Ganz.[/sp]

Really going for the Daily Mails target audience here.

Daily Mail is gonna go the Fahrenheit 451 route and end up being our worlds supreme ruler; they will burn ALL other news sources on the face of the planet except their own. In this dystopian future even Dr Roache will be kept alive indefinitely for reading the Huffington post, except they will force him to read Daily Mail articles about EVERYTHING for 100 years. Oh yeah and hitler images beamed into his retinas daily because why not But yeah this life extension for people in prison? Fuck that spend the research on people who haven't fucked up other peoples lives (and their own)

I'd appreciate Daily Mail doing at least one article without having a massive picture of Hitler in it.

[QUOTE=woolio1;44235379]Get your ass to Mars! (I feel I may not be referencing the right movie...)[/QUOTE] more like who loves you and who do you love? [editline]14th March 2014[/editline] [quote]According to their research, prison firms could also develop drugs that make time pass slowly, making an inmate’s sentence feel like an eternity. [/quote] i believe (and rightly so) mind altering drugs are considered cruel punishment... [editline]14th March 2014[/editline] thank goodness we have that piece of paper that lobbiests and lawmakers seem to forget about

[QUOTE=Sableye;44235529]more like who loves you and who do you love? [/QUOTE] no thats running man not demolition man gosh

[quote]According to their research, prison firms could also develop drugs that make time pass slowly, making an inmate’s sentence feel like an eternity. [/quote] Cruel and unusual punishment much?

[QUOTE=Smoot;44235423]Wow, that would be crazy to see someone unhooked from something like that after 8 hours and see what sort of reactions they have.[/QUOTE] I've always imagined that if people could live this long, like a thousand years, they'd either be really stoic or just totally insane to the point of being catatonic by the end of it. Some people might fare differently than others, or maybe that kind of ceaseless existential barrage has the same affect on everyone. I mean, most people in their 70s and 80s that I'm around regularly (my neighbors) seem mentally worn out and indifferent to life; who knows what another 930-ish years of constant mental thought and revelation would do to them. It would be an interesting experiment to perform on someone though, that's for sure. [editline]14 March 2014[/editline] Maybe we could get something like this to work like Groundhog Day did? I'd be okay with that.

[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;44235600]no thats running man not demolition man gosh[/QUOTE] You are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute.

at least we have more restaurants than fucking taco bell

Well this doesn't actually extend life ..., this will potentially make someone feel like their punishment is an eternity. So they took it completely out of context. However, for unspeakable crimes, this does seem like it would be befitting. Sadly it will get abused, there's nothing we can do as this will mostly likely be developed behind closed doors, even if it's banned. Take that person that raped and tortured that heroin-addicted hooker, and put a camera for her so that she's forced to watch her own torture. Surely that kind of person deserves this.

I wonder how this would work as a deterrent, if death penalty doesn't

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44235766]Well this doesn't actually extend life ..., this will potentially make someone feel like their punishment is an eternity. So they took it completely out of context. However, for unspeakable crimes, this does seem like it would be befitting. Sadly it will get abused, there's nothing we can do as this will mostly likely be developed behind closed doors, even if it's banned. Take that person that raped and tortured that heroin-addicted hooker, and put a camera for her so that she's forced to watch her own torture. Surely that kind of person deserves this.[/QUOTE] They mentioned Aubrey de Greys work, and the doc directly referenced it, it's about full life extension with a tacked on bit about their drug fuelled torture porn fantasies. [editline]14th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Talishmar;44235840]I wonder how this would work as a deterrent, if death penalty doesn't[/QUOTE] It won't work because the idea of a deterrent doesn't work.

[QUOTE=bravehat;44235984]They mentioned Aubrey de Greys work, and the doc directly referenced it, it's about full life extension with a tacked on bit about their drug fuelled torture porn fantasies. [editline]14th March 2014[/editline] It won't work because the idea of a deterrent doesn't work.[/QUOTE] It makes no sense because they wouldn't need to use a drug that would extend their life if they could actually extend their life to a 1000 years.

[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44236063]It makes no sense because they wouldn't need to use a drug that would extend their life if they could actually extend their life to a 1000 years.[/QUOTE] Yeah, that's because she moved onto another point, about the possibility of creating slo-mo drug that makes your perception of time slow down or end in the general effect of you losing your mind thinking you have a 1000 year prison sentence. All any of this achieves is you will turn a bunch of asshole prisoners who likely want nothing to do with each other and with no real grand schemes into an army of broken people and future mass murderers hell bent on eviscerating your entire culture and society for putting them through [b][highlight]1000 years of completely devastating, crushing and frankly barbaric dehumanising prison sentences.[/b][/highlight]

Just ignore it. It's daily mail.

I didn't think it'd be possible for prison systems to become any more of a travesty, what with the unintentional behavioral reprogramming caused by being locked in a building with tons of other angry criminals, the mental and social atrophy that comes from being locked away from society for years, and the complete lack of any beneficial result for released prisoners, some of whom are turned into worse criminals than before. And yet, the utter awfulness of the worst parts of humanity bubbles up like boiling diarrhea, and finds ways to ruin peoples' lives even worse than before. Bravo, revenge-obsessed assholes of the world, you've taken us one giant step closer to dystopian hell in the form of even worse punishment that'll do nothing to reform criminals in any way whatsoever. I honestly think we wouldn't stand to lose much if prisons were scrapped tomorrow in favor of alternative methods of dealing with criminals. Methods such as, oh I dunno, giving them counseling for their problems and helping them turn their lives around, rather than locking them in a big-ass concrete box to rot and build up an even stronger hatred for other people if that's what helped drive them toward crime? This kind of mental, time and lifespan manipulative technology should be completely and totally banned for use as legal punishment of any kind, under the labels of human rights abuse and sadistic torture. This shit is just insidious and horrifying, plain and simple. If anyone thinks it's justifiable and morally right to lock a man away for a thousand years in either a real prison or his own mind for breaking laws and/or being mentally ill, then they clearly haven't given any thought to being in the same situation themselves. The state of prison systems and legal punishment in the world is bad enough as it is, we don't need dystopian mind prisons and artifically-extended life sentences to make it any worse. Also, it might be worth considering just what someone who's experienced a thousand mental and/or physical years of prison might react on release, or what they'd do if they finally broke out of it. Something tells me they would be [B]insanely pissed[/B], and in either case prepared to do a shitload of damage in revenge. A thousand years would give someone plenty of mental time to prepare and plan for their chance at vengeance, and an insanely-long or infinite lifespan would give them all of the time remaining in the universe to execute it.

from the comments [QUOTE]They may be nasty people, but the rest of us don't have to be as bad as them.[/QUOTE] was among the highest rated and only 28 people disagreed i guess not everyone who reads the daily mail is a fucking serial killer after all