North Korea fires three missiles landing in Japanese waters - Polidicks

[QUOTE][B]Japan has lodged a “strong protest” and warned of “grave threats” to its security after three of four ballistic missiles launched by North Korea on Monday morning landed in waters within 300-350 km of its coast.[/B] South Korea’s defence ministry said it had yet to identify the type of missiles involved, but the country’s Yonhap news agency cited an unnamed official as saying that the possibility that at least one of them was an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) had not been ruled out. A unnamed US official later told Reuters that the US saw no indications that an ICBM had been tested. [/QUOTE] [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/06/north-korea-fires-unidentified-projectile-into-sea-of-japan[/URL]

And so it begins

I have to wonder how many intel assets military superpowers around the world have in North Korea, and how reliable their information is. NK is very much a loose cannon, and should it attain nuclear-capable ICBMs, it's more a matter of when they'd use them than if. Should a surgical strike to completely eliminate the military and executive leadership become necessary, it'd be good to keep tabs on their movements.

Seriously does NK want to be deposed? Because this is going to accelerate THAAD Deployment and or/ Force China/US's hand.

Their war against Atlantis continues. :v:

[QUOTE=archangel125;51919682]I have to wonder how many intel assets military superpowers around the world have in North Korea, and how reliable their information is. NK is very much a loose cannon, and should it attain nuclear-capable ICBMs, it's more a matter of when they'd use them than if. [B]Should a surgical strike to completely eliminate the military and executive leadership become necessary, it'd be good to keep tabs on their movements.[/B][/QUOTE] Remember when everyone was hyperventilating about that article a week ago, that wouldn't be boots on the ground.

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;51919696]Remember when everyone was hyperventilating about that article a week ago, that wouldn't be boots on the ground.[/QUOTE] I honestly believe that North Korea, if and when it falls, will present the biggest humanitarian crisis the world has ever seen.

NK is really itching for a war

I honestly think conflict with North Korea is inevitable. It's either that or it will eventually collapse a while from now, after a whole lot more human suffering. I know it'll be a disaster, but the thing is, the longer we let them set the more powerful they get. I really think we ought to have crushed them a long time ago, and we should crush them now. Because the [I]last thing[/I] that needs to happen is for us to be in a situation where North Korea can threaten at least some level of MAD and we [I]can't[/I] lay a finger on them.

[QUOTE=Zufeng;51919724]NK is really itching for a war[/QUOTE] I would think a superpower, like the US or China, would be able to locate and completely neutralize all of NK's offensive and defensive capabilities in a single opening strike, making it a war only in name. Though the longer the world sits around and watches NK slowly inch towards being more powerful, the harder that becomes.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;51919732]I would think a superpower, like the US or China, would be able to locate and completely neutralize all of NK's offensive and defensive capabilities in a single opening strike, making it a war only in name. Though the longer the world sits around and watches NK slowly inch towards being more powerful, the harder that becomes.[/QUOTE] Or maybe,both of them just bombard NK to oblivion if NK tried to attack other country. I also doubt that China will keep their ties with NK if they start acting up.

[QUOTE=DaMastez;51919732]I would think a superpower, like the US or China, would be able to locate and completely neutralize all of NK's offensive and defensive capabilities in a single opening strike, making it a war only in name. Though the longer the world sits around and watches NK slowly inch towards being more powerful, the harder that becomes.[/QUOTE] I feel like because how bad NK is acting, we are going to have to deal with them sooner than later. The Problem is the aftermath.

Is it closer than it was before?

I mean, the possible international repurcussions of a war against North Korea are looking less bad every day. Even China just doesn't give a shit anymore. The economic issues would be a far greater issue. The reunification of Berlin was bad, this would be much, much worse.

If they don't have the PVA to save their asses if a war happens, they're fucked I guarantee it.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51919763]I mean, the possible international repurcussions of a war against North Korea are looking less bad every day. Even China just doesn't give a shit anymore. The economic issues would be a far greater issue. The reunification of Berlin was bad, this would be much, much worse.[/QUOTE] It really sounds like China might just do them in soon, or do a coalition with the US, because holy shit they lost control as soon as North Korea used VX gas in Maylasia.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51919763]I mean, the possible international repurcussions of a war against North Korea are looking less bad every day. Even China just doesn't give a shit anymore. The economic issues would be a far greater issue. The reunification of Berlin was bad, this would be much, much worse.[/QUOTE] I've thought about this a lot and read the testimonies of some of the escapees - if what they're saying is true and not hyperbole, it would be "liberating Auschwitz and Dachau" levels of horror for anyone who has to go in the aftermath of NK's fall. You've got an entire nation of brainwashed people, stuck nearly half a century in the past, suddenly thrown into a future vastly different from what they were told. In any other circumstance, the premise would make a hilarious summer comedy film, but the reality of this is very very grim.

[QUOTE]within 300-350 km of its coast.[/QUOTE] ohhhh we're half-way there!

I think we (USA) should stay out of it and let someone else deal with it. What can we do? In the end I don't think that North Korea should remain sovereign. It needs to be dissolved into South Korea or China. In fact, I think china should be the ones to put down the Kims and their regime, not the west. I don't think that would be too bad because North Korea is just gonna be a burden on whomever get put in charge of it. If we do what we did in the middle-east and let the joker locals run the place it could be mediocre or it could be very bad. It could become a quiet puppet state like Vietnam or a tinder box like Iran. I get that letting them govern themselves is ideal but I think we need to put someone in charge that has no wishes of becoming a greedy warlord or a dangerous radical. I should mention that I am uneducated on the political situation in North and South Korea so this just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Smoovedawg1;51920129]I think we (USA) should stay out of it and let someone else deal with it. What can we do? In the end I don't think that North Korea should remain sovereign. It needs to be dissolved into South Korea or China. In fact, I think china should be the ones to put down the Kims and their regime, not the west. I don't think that would be too bad because North Korea is just gonna be a burden on whomever get put in charge of it. If we do what we did in the middle-east and let the joker locals run the place it could be mediocre or it could be very bad. It could become a quiet puppet state like Vietnam or a tinder box like Iran. I get that letting them govern themselves is ideal but I think we need to put someone in charge that has no wishes of becoming a greedy warlord or a dangerous radical. I should mention that I am uneducated on the political situation in North and South Korea so this just my opinion.[/QUOTE] China getting more power in a time like this? No thank you. SK can have it.

[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51919763]I mean, the possible international repurcussions of a war against North Korea are looking less bad every day. Even China just doesn't give a shit anymore. The economic issues would be a far greater issue. The reunification of Berlin was bad, this would be much, much worse.[/QUOTE] The reunification was not just of Berlin, the fall of the Berlin Wall was just the most symbolic measure in the reunification of East and West Germany as entire countries. The thing is, North and South Korea, even if they unite in government, will always be separated to an extent geographically by the DMZ. Even if they clear the mines, the place is a wildlife sanctuary that nobody would want to destroy.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;51920201]The reunification was not just of Berlin, the fall of the Berlin Wall was just the most symbolic measure in the reunification of East and West Germany as entire countries. The thing is, North and South Korea, even if they unite in government, will always be separated to an extent geographically by the DMZ. Even if they clear the mines, the place is a wildlife sanctuary that nobody would want to destroy.[/QUOTE] Not just that, but the languages are also now subtly different between the countries as well. From an anthropological perspective, this would be fascinating if it wasn't rooted in such terrible circumstances. [video=youtube;ym3HnjBxPsw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym3HnjBxPsw[/video]

We should've let MacArthur do his job and win the war instead of letting Truman pussyfoot around the problem.

Couldn't even get to Japan.

War is sad, why do they think provoking countries will benefit them in anyway? If they're capable of testing weapons, wouldn't they also be capable of checking out every other major power's countries and see that they are way out of their league?

I'm curious to see what the seabed looks like after North Korea has been dealt with one way or other

I don't think there is any way to solve the north korea issue that doesn't involve a lot of people dying

[QUOTE=snookypookums;51919703]I honestly believe that North Korea, if and when it falls, will present the biggest humanitarian crisis the world has ever seen.[/QUOTE] Whatever way the situation goes, it'll be bad. If NK somehow did arm one of these things we could be looking at the biggest nuclear disaster as well. Even if they don't arm one and just chucked a shell filled with dynamite, it'd still be devestating. Intervention/boots on the ground will be Vietnam 2 in terms of fighting. There's a reason nobody has touched that country (aside from China), it's a starving rabid dog behind a fence at the minute, annoying and a little bit threatening; but not an issue until it can jump over the fence, which it has been trying to do for the last few years.

[QUOTE=Tarzy;51920349]War is sad, why do they think provoking countries will benefit them in anyway? If they're capable of testing weapons, wouldn't they also be capable of checking out every other major power's countries and see that they are way out of their league?[/QUOTE] They know. They're only rattling sabers to force the international community back to the negotiating table. It's high time for another round of that (which is likely to lead nowhere and the circle begins anew).