[quote]Divers are searching a London canal for the head and limbs of EastEnders actress Gemma McCluskie after a torso was discovered floating in the water.
Frogmen are trawling Regent's Canal in Hackney, east London, hoping to find the legs, arms and head of the former soap star, 29.
Miss McCluskie's brother, Tony, 35, is understood to have been arrested on suspicion of murder, just days after he circulated 'Missing' posters asking for help to trace her.
It is understood Miss McCluskie was living with Tony, who is currently being interviewed at an east London police station, until she disappeared last week.
"The smallest detail could be important," the posters read.
Scotland Yard said that divers were renewing their search of the canal after the limbless torso was recovered from the Broadway Market stretch earlier this week.
"Police were initially contacted by a member of the public who had noticed something suspicious floating in the water," a Met spokesman said.
"The torso was recovered by divers from the Met's Marine Support Unit and additional searches are due to be carried out in the water."
Miss McCluskie starred in the soap as Kerry Skinner on more than 30 occasions in 2001.[/quote]
[url]http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16184670[/url]
how could anyone chop the limbs and head off a person. its something i couldn't even imagine.
Why do they reckon that it was the brother that done it?
I can't imagine what it would be like to be a police diver, poor bastards
Jesus christ that's horrible
[QUOTE=massaki;35085501]Why do they reckon that it was the brother that done it?[/QUOTE]
Because Eastenders, so it is fitting that the suspect is omeone like the brother...
I wonder how an individual is able to go and murder someone like that then dismember them. How is that even remotely plausible in their head is totally beyond me
[QUOTE=dagoth_ur;35085632]Because Eastenders, so it is fitting that the suspect is omeone like the brother...[/QUOTE]
you do know that most murders are committed by people known to the victim?
[QUOTE=Mark364;35085470]how could anyone chop the limbs and head off a person. its something i couldn't even imagine.[/QUOTE]
Well, it has to do something with the brain getting the wrong amount of ideas combined with being batshit fucking crazy.
I hope I never experience being batshit crazy, or experience anyone around me doing the same.
[QUOTE=massaki;35085501]Why do they reckon that it was the brother that done it?[/QUOTE]
I believe they go on things such as most likely motive but they must have some evidence or something that caused suspicion for them to arrest him.
I bet it was Phil Mitchell
[QUOTE=massaki;35085501]Why do they reckon that it was the brother that done it?[/QUOTE]
Lazy cops who want to get the case done and over with as soon as possible.
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Or just retarded reporter
[QUOTE=Mark364;35085470][url]http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16184670[/url]
how could anyone chop the limbs and head off a person. its something i couldn't even imagine.[/QUOTE]
people will go to extreme lengths to hide things, heck for crime rings its second nature.
a popular thing to do back in the day was chop them up, shave their bodies and remove their teeth and feed them to a hungry pack of pigs, their teeth go through bone like butter.
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;35085779]you do know that most murders are committed by people known to the victim?[/QUOTE]
Of course I do, but still sound like something a soap would do
I'm American, so I've only heard of Eastenders. Never actually saw it. So I guess this would be about like someone finding the dismembered torso of Susan Lucci.
Hey, I can dream.
Edit: Jokes aside, this is fucking terrible.
The brother is probably schizophrenic or something, he would need help rather than punishment
[QUOTE=Stockers678;35090510]The brother is probably schizophrenic or something, he would need help rather than punishment[/QUOTE]
You do know that schizophrenics, while they may suffer from altered perceptions of reality, are generally well aware of what they're doing right?
Still has to pay for his crimes if he did it.
But even then there's nothing to indicate he has schizophrenia, he could just be an arsehole.
[QUOTE=sHiBaN;35085756]I wonder how an individual is able to go and murder someone like that then dismember them. How is that even remotely plausible in their head is totally beyond me[/QUOTE]
Because brains work differently.
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[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35090540]You do know that schizophrenics, while they may suffer from altered perceptions of reality, are generally well aware of what they're doing right?
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How can you be well aware of your actions if your perception or reality is different?
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35090540]
Still has to pay for his crimes if he did it.
[/QUOTE]
Pay how? Put him in prison so he can meet big bubba? Hurr such payment.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35090551]Because brains work differently.
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How can you be well aware of your actions if your perception or reality is different?
Pay how? Put him in prison so he can meet big bubba? Hurr such payment.[/QUOTE]
Because not all schizophrenics will be subject to such extensive altered perceptions that they all think murder is fine. Again though, it's besides the point because there's no guarantee this guy is actually schizophrenic.
[QUOTE=massaki;35085501]Why do they reckon that it was the brother that done it?[/QUOTE]
Relatives and family (Or the people closest to them) are the first suspected, and it often turns out to be them.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35090551]
Pay how? Put him in prison so he can meet big bubba? Hurr such payment.[/QUOTE]
A murder is still a crime, regardless of any form of mental condition.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35090592]Because not all schizophrenics will be subject to such extensive altered perceptions that they all think murder is fine. Again though, it's besides the point because there's no guarantee this guy is actually schizophrenic.[/QUOTE]
But if you think murder is not fine why would you not only kill someone but also cut them to pieces?
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[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;35090603]A murder is still a crime, regardless of any form of mental condition.[/QUOTE]Do we put mentally disabled people in prison now? What's the point. If they're mentally challenged they won't understand it anyway. Not helping anyone there.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35090633]But if you think murder is not fine why would you not only kill someone but also cut them to pieces?
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Do we put mentally disabled people in prison now? What's the point. If they're mentally challenged they won't understand it anyway. Not helping anyone there.[/QUOTE]
There are people who kill people and do so regardless of whether or not they think it's okay.
what in the [I]living[/I] fuck
What if the headless torso isn't the actresses? Then someone else may have been brutally murdered and I bet the news will forget all about them because they aren't famous :(
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[QUOTE=NorthernFall;35085565]I can't imagine what it would be like to be a police diver, poor bastards[/QUOTE]
Especially trawling through canals as they tend to be really murky waters so you wouldn't see the remains until it was a foot or 2 away from you.
[QUOTE=WeekendWarrior;35090603]A murder is still a crime, regardless of any form of mental condition.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, but there is different ways to pay that punishment.
When someone got paranoid schizophrenia, hearing voices telling them to do horrible things, it builds up an incredible pressure, angst and trepidation. The only way for the person to relieve this pressure is to do as the voice commands. This leads to a very difficult inner struggle. When and if he finally breaks, someone will be in serious danger.
If a schizophrenic person has committed murder, it is tricky to handle it in court. Yes, he used his hands to strangle his mother or whatnot, but he wasn't in control. This isn't saying that he experienced someone else taking control of his limbs committing the act. One has to understand that he is very sick and this is the only way to ease his suffering. Not unlike someone who suffers from destructive depression where suicide seems to be the only answer.
This leads us to two conclusions is a paranoid schizophrenic person has committed murder. 1. He is sick. Sick means treatment. 2. He was not in control. Can we charge the man with the first strain of aids for the viral genocide that has swept the globe? No, we can't. This is [B]not[/B] saying that the schizophreniac should go unpunished.
Adding these two we can start to see that medication and incarceration at a mental institution makes sense. Throwing him in jail amongst the other inmates, or giving him the chair for something he wasn't in control of, is not the solution.
I remember this documentary about mental disorders we saw in psychology class. They interviewed this man who saw angels everywhere. They told him to do violent things such as punching the reporter in the face. It was extremely interesting to watch.
[QUOTE=Vasili;35086227]people will go to extreme lengths to hide things, heck for crime rings its second nature.
a popular thing to do back in the day was chop them up, shave their bodies and remove their teeth and feed them to a hungry pack of pigs, their teeth go through bone like butter.[/QUOTE]
Hah, Snatch is a good movie.
That's pretty awful.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35090540][B]You do know that schizophrenics, while they may suffer from altered perceptions of reality, are generally well aware of what they're doing right?[/B]
Still has to pay for his crimes if he did it.
But even then there's nothing to indicate he has schizophrenia, he could just be an arsehole.[/QUOTE]
this is a contradiction in terms
besides, if he's schizophrenic, making him "pay for his crimes" isn't going to do jack shit, there's literally no point apart from vengeance
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35090540]You do know that schizophrenics, while they may suffer from altered perceptions of reality, are generally well aware of what they're doing right?
Still has to pay for his crimes if he did it.
But even then there's nothing to indicate he has schizophrenia, he could just be an arsehole.[/QUOTE]
You're exactly the kind of person who should not be allowed to have [I]any[/I] say in how the government runs prisons, We should [I]never[/I] give up trying to rehabilitate someone.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;35091675]You're exactly the kind of person who should not be allowed to have [I]any[/I] say in how the government runs prisons, We should [I]never[/I] give up trying to rehabilitate someone.[/QUOTE]
well in an ideal world yes, but you have to consider that prisons have limited resources, and if someone isn't responding to rehabilitation and isn't likely to in future, it's more efficient to focus on prisoners where there is a chance.
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