Divers trace lost WW2 shipwrecks from the Battle of the Atlantic
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The team of divers and historians are researching an area of around 250 square miles, in which they believe around 50 wrecks from the battle are located.
[QUOTE]They have assembled a chart of possible sites from existing wreck databases, along with reports from fishermen about unidentified objects on the seabed and information from other divers. So far, around a third have been positively identified.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10388455/Divers-trace-lost-WW2-shipwrecks-from-the-Battle-of-the-Atlantic.html[/url]
I would love to be able to see the wrecks and go through them.
They should make huge scans of them and reconstruct them, so you can take virtual tours and the like.
This is interesting, I love it when we find historical pieces like these whether their battleships, tanks, whatever the case may be.
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;42564600]I would love to be able to see the wrecks and go through them.[/QUOTE]
I would not be caught dead entering a dark underwater wreck where it is possible to come across human remains.
That would be a good horror game actually if it hasn't been done.
Friggen cool! There's a ton of wrecks I'd love traced.
[QUOTE=ColdWave;42564978]I would not be caught dead entering a dark underwater wreck where it is possible to come across human remains.
That would be a good horror game actually if it hasn't been done.[/QUOTE]
Because skeletons are so scary right?
[QUOTE=Omniskull;42565119]Because skeletons are so scary right?[/QUOTE]
too spooky
Most interesting battle of the Atlantic wreck nomination:
[img]http://h6img.com/g/11/mighty-ships-beginning-to-end-6.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=ColdWave;42564978]I would not be caught dead entering a dark underwater wreck where it is possible to come across human remains.
That would be a good horror game actually if it hasn't been done.[/QUOTE]
A cadaver diver is possibility one of the most dangerous/ cool jobs you can have
It would be cool if they could locate ships like the SS [i]Naronic[/i]. It disappeared in 1893 with all passengers, I'd love to hear what happened to it.
Dive on the east coast of the US. U-Boats sunk the shit out of US merchant vessels. Even fishing trawlers.
Just imagine that, just seeing a sunken ship appearing out of the blue in front of you, and swimming inside it knowing that you're the first man to see this stuff since it sank, it'd be cool as hell. Its weird, I hate even just swimming near a dock post or something, but wreck diving sounds amazing to me.
All I see is a lot of lives lost. I've always thought they should just leave those places alone. I get finding them, and marking their location. It doesn't seem these researchers have disrespected them in any way, but it really pisses me off when they raise them.
[QUOTE=ColdWave;42564978]I would not be caught dead entering a dark underwater wreck where it is possible to come across human remains.
That would be a good horror game actually if it hasn't been done.[/QUOTE]
You know what else has human remains? Your local cemetery, it's full of bodies, avoid it if you must.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;42568498]All I see is a lot of lives lost. I've always thought they should just leave those places alone. I get finding them, and marking their location. It doesn't seem these researchers have disrespected them in any way, but it really pisses me off when they raise them.[/QUOTE]
Does it piss you off when we excavate castles and things too?
[QUOTE=Blanketspace;42568572]Does it piss you off when we excavate castles and things too?[/QUOTE]
nope, go figure.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;42568580]nope, go figure.[/QUOTE]
These ships are basically the modern equivalent and they're chock full of historical information.
[QUOTE=laserguided;42568551]You know what else has human remains? Your local cemetery, it's full of bodies, avoid it if you must.[/QUOTE]
I know you're banned and all, but that and this aren't exactly the same thing.
[QUOTE=Angus725;42565151]Most interesting battle of the Atlantic wreck nomination:
[img]http://h6img.com/g/11/mighty-ships-beginning-to-end-6.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
The most interesting wreak that I know of was a top secret U-Boat that had been fitted with a battleship cannon on the deck, looked kinda like a T-34 to a certain extent.
Don't know the exact story I'm afraid because it was such a long time ago i heard it and haven't been able to find it anywhere but from what I recall it this prototype sub just vanished with all hands and no one knew what happened to it, they discovered it's almost pristine wreak on the ocean floor in the 90's or early 00's. The wreak itself was a rather strange one to say the least, the turret had 'fallen off' and was lying next to the sub. No one really knew what happened but there was evidence supporting a theory that the U-Boat passed underneath a German battleship (thinking it was British), but they didn't go low enough, the turret hit the hull of the ship and got ripped off but somehow did not cause more than a dent to the ship. It's a truly fascinating story, i just wish i could find it.
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;42569692]The most interesting wreak that I know of was a top secret U-Boat that had been fitted with a battleship cannon on the deck, looked kinda like a T-34 to a certain extent.
Don't know the exact story I'm afraid because it was such a long time ago i heard it and haven't been able to find it anywhere but from what I recall it this prototype sub just vanished with all hands and no one knew what happened to it, they discovered it's almost pristine wreak on the ocean floor in the 90's or early 00's. The wreak itself was a rather strange one to say the least, the turret had 'fallen off' and was lying next to the sub. No one really knew what happened but there was evidence supporting a theory that the U-Boat passed underneath a German battleship (thinking it was British), but they didn't go low enough, the turret hit the hull of the ship and got ripped off but somehow did not cause more than a dent to the ship. It's a truly fascinating story, i just wish i could find it.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_M1[/url]
Could this be it? It sorta matches your explanation, it was the best I could find
[QUOTE=ashton93;42569840][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_M1[/url]
Could this be it? It sorta matches your explanation, it was the best I could find[/QUOTE]
I can't say for certain because there's no 'decent' pictures of the wreak, at least none that i could find with a simple search.
That's gotta be the one I'm thinking off having read all the info on it though, the chances of a similar incident like this are highly improbable and it says a BBC documentary came out in 2000 which I'm pretty sure was the one i watched.
Cheers for finding it.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;42568498]All I see is a lot of lives lost. I've always thought they should just leave those places alone. I get finding them, and marking their location. It doesn't seem these researchers have disrespected them in any way, but it really pisses me off when they raise them.[/QUOTE]You don't think the sailors who died on these ships, who loved their ship and all it carried them through, would want her to rest somewhere more dignified than her watery grave?
[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;42570386]You don't think the sailors who died on these ships, who loved their ship and all it carried them through, would want her to rest somewhere more dignified than her watery grave?[/QUOTE]
Well they're dead.
Also I'd say the ocean is the most fitting grave a ship can have.
Guys, there are no remains left. 80 years of sea water turn bone to dust, combined with fish and whatnot eating what's left. This dive is to ID where specific people died, not to retrieve corpses. At most they'd get some very, very corroded dogtags.
[QUOTE=Omniskull;42565119]Because skeletons are so scary right?[/QUOTE]
I was just stating that the prospect is very very creepy to me. Some are practically just underwater tombs.
IIRC human bones dissolve in seawater in a matter of months so finding any biological human remains up to a year after the sinking is pretty much impossible.
This is pretty much all anybody will find after a year or two:
[IMG]http://www.hmshood.com/hoodtoday/2001expedition/hood/boots.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/04/15/1226326/974382-120515-titanic-human-remains.jpg[/IMG]
BTW that last image was taken at 3.8km / 12,500ft deep.
Find Glenn Miller!!!
[QUOTE=evilweazel;42567910]Just imagine that, just seeing a sunken ship appearing out of the blue in front of you, and swimming inside it knowing that you're the first man to see this stuff since it sank, it'd be cool as hell.[/QUOTE]
I went through a box of old books I found today, and a dusty pamphlet from some opera in the 1920s fell out of one of the books as I flipped through it. It felt weird because it occurred to me that nobody had opened the book in close to 90 years.
And then the US government comes in and yells. "DON'T TOUCH THAT, IT'S STILL U.S. PROPERTY."
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