I noticed we didn't have a thread for the shittiest drug on the face of the Earth: diphenhydramine!
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[B]Effects include:[/B]
• Extreme fatigue and body load!
• Dry mouth and difficulty swallowing!
• Spiders everywhere!
• Short-term memory loss and confusion!
• Visual and aural hallucinations!
• Nightmarish delirium!
• Talking to people who aren't really there!
• Seeing cars that aren't real!
• Not seeing cars that [I]are[/I] real!
• Inability to speak coherently!
That's right, all this can be yours for as low as 200 mg of diphenhydramine. According to [URL="http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=DPH"]Taimapedia[/URL], the suggested dose is 700+ mg, but trust me when I say that could be way too much. My first DPH experience, on 700 mg, included crawling down the stairs to vomit, seeing friends in my room who weren't really there and watching their faces melt, and forgetting where I was multiple times, while feeling the worst fatigued feeling I have ever felt in my entire life. Basically, you're guaranteed to have a terrible, nightmarish experience, but you know what? It's [I]interesting[/I]. It's so interesting to some people that they do it more than once. Is it for you? Only one way to find out!
You really should see the [URL="http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=DPH"]Taimapedia[/URL] article for more details. Don't forget to visit [URL="http://boards.420chan.org/del/"]420chan's /del/ board[/URL] for fun, euphoric DPH experiences, too!
[sp]"euphoric" is a joke[/sp]
As usual, [B]DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING WITHOUT CHECKING THE ACTIVE INGREDIENTS. IF IT SAYS [U]ANYTHING[/U] OTHER THAN "DIPHENHYDRAMINE" OR "DIMENHYDRINATE", DO [I]NOT[/I] TAKE IT.[/B]
[QUOTE=AaronTAB;41023380]Dimenhydrinate is a mixture (in salt form, actually!) of diphenhydramine and a caffeine-related stimulant to offset the drowsiness from CNS antihistamine action. It is the same drug, but with another added. Dose measurements will be different of course because of the difference in molecular weight between the hydrochloride and dimenhydrinate salts.[/QUOTE]
[B]Links:[/B]
[URL="http://www.disregardeverythingisay.com/post/39670297758/the-dxm-and-dph-combination-broken-down-and-described"]An in-depth explanation of the DXM/DPH combo[/URL]
[URL="http://i.imgur.com/TETtvYA.png"]Who is hatman?[/URL]
[URL="http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=DPH"]Taimapedia's DPH article[/URL]
[URL="http://boards.420chan.org/del/"]420chan /del/[/URL]
[B]Thread music:[/B]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvMxJkTaE4I[/media]
snip, my bad, I was wrong.
Euphoria is the exact opposite of DPH.
Dimenhydrinate is a mixture (in salt form, actually!) of diphenhydramine and a caffeine-related stimulant to offset the drowsiness from CNS antihistamine action. It is the same drug, but with another added. Dose measurements will be different of course because of the difference in molecular weight between the hydrochloride and dimenhydrinate salts.
To convert a dose of diphenhydramine to its dimenhydrinate equivalent, multiply the diphenhydramine dose by 1.84
[QUOTE=Mac2468;41022745]Euphoria is the exact opposite of DPH.[/QUOTE]
Set and setting, my friend. They said the same thing about DMT.
You really must tell me how you managed to get euphoria out of DPH, because I've had two or three good trips from it out of dozens.
never again
Recommended dosages for combining DPH and DXM? I read that you should take 300mg of each, just looking for a second opinion.
Based on this thread I've already decided this seems like a horrible idea to try.
DPH is one hell of a drug
ive been taking 50mg almost every day for the past few weeks to help me sleep
"recreational" doses are some next shit though
[QUOTE=DJK;41024324]Recommended dosages for combining DPH and DXM? I read that you should take 300mg of each, just looking for a second opinion.[/QUOTE]
Done it lots of times. Black out 75% of the time.
I love DPH! It helps my allergies and whenever I get mosquito bites because it's an antihistamine.
[QUOTE=Mac2468;41027962]Done it lots of times. Black out 75% of the time.[/QUOTE]
I did it once, and blacked out 100% of the time.
You have to keep yourself active, a sitter helps.
[editline]15th June 2013[/editline]
Last time I did it I kept seeing hatman standing next to my bed.
Js, this shit can be pretty addictive. I did it almost daily for about two months. That fucked up my mental state for a long time and that entire summer is a blur to me now.
EDIT: And it's embarrassing when you have to tell people you took ungodly amounts of allergy medicine for months straight to get high.
I kept seeing an orange lady, with a green jump suit, and red hair pop her head out of corners. I remember this strictly, because I ran away from this hallucination all night, at the time it was shit pants scary, but hilarious as well. Other than that I felt like I was in a maze walking in and out of every room in my friends houses, every time I'd enter a room my mind would think "wait, fuck what did I come in here for? Where am I again?"
Apparently I walked around town by myself around 2 am that night, that was the part I don't remember. I just know I wondered from my friends for a great while :v:
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;41044928]Js, this shit can be pretty addictive. I did it almost daily for about two months. That fucked up my mental state for a long time and that entire summer is a blur to me now.
EDIT: And it's embarrassing when you have to tell people you took ungodly amounts of allergy medicine for months straight to get high.[/QUOTE]
I can actually see the addiction potential. Not at trip doses, though - around 200 mg for me makes music sound absolutely phenomenal.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;41044928]Js, this shit can be pretty addictive. I did it almost daily for about two months. That fucked up my mental state for a long time and that entire summer is a blur to me now.
EDIT: And it's embarrassing when you have to tell people you took ungodly amounts of allergy medicine for months straight to get high.[/QUOTE]
How heavily did you dose on a daily basis? I had a friend who was in a very similar situation. He had almost killed himself at a house party after dosing something ridiculous like 1200mg of DPH combined with many beers. He certainly would have died that night if it wasn't for his traumatized savior; a mutual friend who plunged their fingers down his pharynx and fished vomit from his airway until an ambulance arrived. Unbelievably, he continued to abuse DPH even after hospitalization and I simply cannot fathom how his mind and body could handle the trauma.
Anyway, in an attempt to justify the bump and to actually add some content to the thread, I'm going to post my first DPH trip report:
[QUOTE=Diphenhydramine 7/2/13]
Dosage contents:
- 1.5L pure white grapefruit juice
- 500mg Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride
Dosage times:
- 12:00PM Grapefruit Juice, 200mL
- 2:00PM Grapefruit Juice, 200mL
- 4:00PM Grapefruit Juice, 200mL
- 6:00PM Grapefruit Juice, 200mL
- 8:00PM Grapefruit Juice, 200mL
- 9:00PM Grapefruit Juice, 500mL
- 9:25PM Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride, 500mg
T+0:00
I am nervous. I know the feeling of diphenhydramine all too well. It isn't particularly enjoyable, and I anticipate I will be both irritable and anxious throughout the trip. Nevertheless, I continue to ingest my grapefruit juice with trembling hands. Tonight is NOT going to be a good night. My Aunt is asleep less than 20 meters away from me and I am foolishly diving head-first into delirium. I am going to have to be conscious to avoid waking her.
T+0:12
I browse the DPH Taimapedia page ([url]http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Diphenhydramine[/url] - a good read, no matter how knowledgeable or experienced you are with the drug or its effects), and stumble upon section 7, "Tips for having a DPH trip." The page suggests to create an environment of cluttered spaces and interesting shapes, in order to confuse my soon-to-be delirious brain. I create a humanoid figure in the corner of the room out a pillow, a shirt, long working jeans, my joggers and a fluro-green wig. I place a book in its crotch and drape part of the shirt over it. My creation is pictured. I leave for the shower, after posting this update.
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T+0:34
Stepped outta the shower, feelin' so fresh and so clean. My hair smells like mangoes and oranges, and my skin is silky smooth. I feel beautiful! I headed downstairs to fill up my 1.5L bottle of ex-grapefruit juice with chilled water. I feel heavy already. That heavy, couch-locked feeling associated with the comeup of the DPH trip. I hate it. I fear that the grapefruit juice may have potentiated it to an unexpected level, because my statue is distracting me already, less than one hour into the trip. Peripheral vision is a harsh mistress. I'm rolling up a newspaper as I type this post, just in case I have an unpleasant encounter of the arachnid variety sometime tonight.
T+0:44
I am so, SO fucking tired. I walked almost 30 kilometers today, on top of doing a fair bit of yard work. My body feels like it has weights attached to it; as if there were tiny ropes running across all of my limbs, holding me to a bunch of those stylized, cartoony weights. You know, the massive lb ones that always squish the bad guy? I'm starting to get some slight visual distortions: the 'black hole' effect, as I call it. It's as if someone is waving miniature black holes (or fish eye lenses, I guess), across my eyes at lightning speeds, and all of the lights/imagery get sucked into it for a brief second. I'm getting more and more irate as I write this, since my motor skills are deteriorating. After this point, I think I will abandon most structural and grammatical etiquette. I try and set my room up to be even more interesting for when I peak.
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T+0:50
My mouth is dry as a bone, and I can barely move to hydrate myself. This is gonna suck, I'm feeling dysphoric already. I hope I can stay awake long enough to describe some of my visuals. I lay on my back, watching the black holes warp around my room. Patience. I need to find some inner-tranquillity.
T:0:whatever
getting pretty paraonid. i went to the bathroom to take a dump, and started hearing muffled whispers while i was watching the black holes swoop across my eyes. as i flushed, i was petrified - the sound of the toilet resetting was getting louder and louder, like it was building up to the climax of something. i couldn't exit the bathroom for at least 3 minutes, since i was too spoooked
feeling awfully heavy, thirsty and dysphoric still. fffs
T+1:11
I can barely keep my eyes open. Nothing crazy has happened yet, and the black holes are fading a little bit; the eye before the storm.
I may fall asleep, and if I do, I will wake up in full delirium (unless I sleep through the entire trip/night). My little pillow statue is constantly attracting my attention and my entire field of vision seems to be warping in a fashion very similar to a fish-eye lense.
T+1:24 or something
Getting really frustrated at my lack of fine motor skills. Typing is a chore. Opaque black and gray shades dance across my vision and if it wasn't for the inherent dysphoria, these shades would be enjoyable as they are fairly elegantly moving. The statue is constantly grabbing my attention. I do not yet feel delirious (as I can actually type), but I am slowly but surely getting there. Waves of frustration and dysphoria rush throughout my body, crashing through my stomach and making it churn in an uncomfortable fashion. I am cold. The worst is yet to come.
T+whatever
strange coloured shapes of indistinguishable properties are bouncing across my closed eyes. they smash into eachother and vibrate towards the centre of each eye, and the whole process repeats itself
more shades and cracks are apearing across my vision. when i close my eyes, i hear very slight audio distortions and halluciations, such as muffled whispering, footsteps, laughing, etc...
i am finding it very hard to keep motivated to write this, but i'll do it for my own gratification
T+whatever
extremely intense CEVs. i am reliving memories and vividly imagining doing tasks (ie browsing the internet). i am not sure if i can keep writing for much longer...
T+whatever
my friend from hgih school just walked up the stairs and started talking to me thrgoug the door. he was laughing at me because he coudnt believe i was on this awful substance again and i dont blame him for it... it sucks,.. i know my statue is not real but it keeps looking at me and laughing and telling m e that i should have killed myself lasty ear when i had the chance...
T+whatever
aunt ewalkedr into my ropom and i don';ty know if she wa s real or not- too surprised to talk so i sat while sh e talked to me but now i am on the verge of panic attack and i want to going slee] i want schixzop[hrnia pills this to end...
Woke up at 10:30AM with my vision still slightly distorted. I am very spaced out. I remember waking up in the middle of the night and being too nervous to move, because I believed my ex-girlfriend was sleeping next to me. She kept asking me, "Why do you do this to yourself?" I also believed that the mirror (pictured in the second image) was a co-worker who was spending the night at my place, and I recall stumbling around in the dark trying to set up a place for him to rest on the floor. Turns out my aunt didn't come into my room last night - I didn't even wake her. Shitty trip, I don't know why I ever think it's a good idea to ingest this shit.[/quote]
Dosed between 300-1100 daily.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;41265784]Dosed between 300-1100 daily.[/QUOTE]
got a deathwish?
[QUOTE=Mac2468;41286344]got a deathwish?[/QUOTE]
People have done much worse. 420chan has some great stories.
People have done much worse is a terrible excuse
[QUOTE=Zero Vector;41325248]People have done much worse. 420chan has some great stories.[/QUOTE]
i know ive been reading it for years
Yeah this shit was the worst, nothing but spiders and dropping my imaginary blunts. Lets not forget talking to all the mysterious people!
nah ive done worse but its sure pretty terrible
I'm kind of confused about dose, this thread and taimapedia are saying 700mg but there are trip reports on erowid of people having full blown trips off 300mg. I'm 125lbs so I'm thinking maybe 500mg?
700mg is the threshold for a full blown black out trip.
You'd probably be good at 500. 500 is the worst dose I've taken but i weigh about 30 pounds more than you.
[editline]6th July 2013[/editline]
I hope you know what you're getting yourself into.
DPH is a weird drug to me. I took 600-700mg (I forget... heh) and didn't really trip hard at all. The most I saw were these ghost hands coming out of the wall trying to grab me, but it was obvious they weren't real and I wasn't afraid at all. I also saw the shadows on my ceiling morph into things. I noticed if I stared at my lamp long enough the shade would start to change colors, which was pretty neat. I guess I wasn't actually focusing on anything long enough to notice any drastic change. I did have a conversation with someone that I couldn't tell if it happened or not, but it did.
I didn't have any of those super realistic hallucinations like dogs and Hatman or any of that. I did see some bugs though. All in all, the experience really wasn't worth it. If I ever want a proper deliriant experience, I'll get myself several proper trip sitters and try a light dose of some Datura.
I do believe I was smoking an imaginary joint though, which was actually pretty cool. It's just that the negative effects seem to heavily outweigh the pros and because of such I personally don't feel this drug to be worthwhile. The restless legs were a bitch, and I couldn't sleep to save my life. Deliriants have a time and a place like any other drug, but honestly I'm through with them for a long time. They're just not my cup of tea. My trip(s) on DPH were months ago and I've had time to sit back and contemplate anything I may have gained from it... but there's very little there, aside from brief amusement at the shadows fighting. It doesn't seem that there's any deep insight to be found in DPH, nor is there any abundance of fun, and it's not really an experience I'd recommend someone to take. That seems to be the general consensus, though.
[QUOTE=Mac2468;41341927]700mg is the threshold for a full blown black out trip.
You'd probably be good at 500. 500 is the worst dose I've taken but i weigh about 30 pounds more than you.
[editline]6th July 2013[/editline]
I hope you know what you're getting yourself into.[/QUOTE]
I've been reading trip reports a lot and I have a good amount of experience with drugs, I'm just hoping if I leave a sticky note on my door and only do 500mg I can maybe not fuck up the whole house.
[editline]7th July 2013[/editline]
yeah I hope I don't just black out and not remember anything, that'd be a waste.
[QUOTE=Nifae;41342572]DPH is a weird drug to me. I took 600-700mg (I forget... heh) and didn't really trip hard at all. The most I saw were these ghost hands coming out of the wall trying to grab me, but it was obvious they weren't real and I wasn't afraid at all. I also saw the shadows on my ceiling morph into things. I noticed if I stared at my lamp long enough the shade would start to change colors, which was pretty neat. I guess I wasn't actually focusing on anything long enough to notice any drastic change. I did have a conversation with someone that I couldn't tell if it happened or not, but it did.
I didn't have any of those super realistic hallucinations like dogs and Hatman or any of that. I did see some bugs though. All in all, the experience really wasn't worth it. If I ever want a proper deliriant experience, I'll get myself several proper trip sitters and try a light dose of some Datura.
I do believe I was smoking an imaginary joint though, which was actually pretty cool. It's just that the negative effects seem to heavily outweigh the pros and because of such I personally don't feel this drug to be worthwhile. The restless legs were a bitch, and I couldn't sleep to save my life. Deliriants have a time and a place like any other drug, but honestly I'm through with them for a long time. They're just not my cup of tea. My trip(s) on DPH were months ago and I've had time to sit back and contemplate anything I may have gained from it... but there's very little there, aside from brief amusement at the shadows fighting. It doesn't seem that there's any deep insight to be found in DPH, nor is there any abundance of fun, and it's not really an experience I'd recommend someone to take. That seems to be the general consensus, though.[/QUOTE]
When is there a time and a place for dph :v:
Do you actually see spiders everywhere, or just feel like they're crawling on you? Because that sounds like some seriously scary shit.
I'd wind up setting fire to my house if I experienced that probably.
[QUOTE=sltungle;41347500]Do you actually see spiders everywhere, or just feel like they're crawling on you? Because that sounds like some seriously scary shit.
I'd wind up setting fire to my house if I experienced that probably.[/QUOTE]
Probably both if spiders freak you out, even if you're sober and you don't really care for spiders you'll probably think you feel a spider because seeing that one spider makes you on super aware mode with your hairs on your skin. At least that's what happens to me occasionally.
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