Study: Religious, childeren of the divorced and Business majors more for financial gain - Polidicks

[quote]“Everybody lies” was the mantra of Gregory House, the curmudgeonly physician so memorably portrayed by Hugh Laurie. But being a man of science, the brilliant doctor might want to rethink that philosophy in light of new research from Canada. In an experiment where lying led directly to financial gain, just over 50 percent of the participants told an untruth. That figure is roughly consistent with previous research. What’s new in this study by University of Regina economist Jason Childs is its breakdown of the personality traits of the liars. Unlike some previous research, he did not find men are more likely to lie than women. However, he discovered other factors predicted a greater likelihood of telling an untruth—including the assertion that religion plays an important role in your life.... ...Among those more likely to lie for financial gain were: • Business majors. “It could be that these students are more prone to lying by nature or training,” Childs writes. “It could also be that individuals strongly motivated by financial returns, and therefore more likely to lie for a monetary payoff, are more likely to pursue an education in business.” (Previous research has found higher levels of academic cheating among business majors.) • Students whose parents were divorced. This is in line with expectations, in thatpast research has found children of divorce are more likely to engage in anti-social behavior. Perhaps the belief they’ve been cheated out of a happy childhood may lead them to feel cheating is OK. • Those for whom religion was more important to their lives. “This is surprising,” Childs writes, as most religions “promote honesty as a virtue. It may be that students for whom religion was important feel separate from other students at this largely secular university,” and thus feel less compelled to be honest with them. So, Dr. House’s cynicism aside, there are more than a few honest men—and women—out there. But if a friend with a business degree mentions he turned to religion to heal the wounds of his parents’ divorce … well, you may not want to make him your financial advisor.[/quote] [url]http://www.salon.com/2013/10/22/study_religious_more_likely_to_lie_for_financial_gain_partner/[/url] [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] Fucking thing posted before I was read for some inane reason. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] Jesus fuck it did it again.

the reasoning for all three of those is bullshit [editline]d[/editline] yeah passive aggressively rate me dumb, tell me why any of what he is saying is true

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;42610196]the reasoning for all three of those is bullshit [editline]d[/editline] yeah passive aggressively rate me dumb, tell me why any of what he is saying is true[/QUOTE] Because that's what his data shows? That's all he is saying.

[QUOTE=Rofl_copter;42610196]the reasoning for all three of those is bullshit [editline]d[/editline] yeah passive aggressively rate me dumb, tell me why any of what he is saying is true[/QUOTE] I'd have posted the original study, but it's behind an academic paywall.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;42610327]Data doesn't lie. but correlation does not equal causation[/QUOTE] I always use this example. The amount of African Americans within New Orleans leading up to hurricane Katrina was proportional to the amount of damage caused by the storm, Therefore, if my data proves correct, African Americans were an indirect cause of the damage inflicted by hurricane Katrina.

I am terrible with statistics and studies, so: 1. How many Africans does it take to make a damage? 2. How many religions do I take before I start lying uncontrollably?

[QUOTE=Craigewan;42610291]Because that's what his data shows? That's all he is saying.[/QUOTE] He's not just showing data, roflcopter was saying his reasoning for each was bullshit. I'm not denying the fact that there are facts infront of me, but Dr. House’s suggestions as to why those numbers were there were bollocks.

So if my parents are divorced, does that mean if I change my major to business I'll become a billionaire?

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;42610677]So if my parents are divorced, does that mean if I change my major to business I'll become a billionaire?[/QUOTE] Only if you're at seminary

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;42610677]So if my parents are divorced, does that mean if I change my major to business I'll become a billionaire?[/QUOTE] I hope so... Although I am working at D+ in GCSE BS right now

Lying is an antisocial behavior? Ha! Society was built on lies.

I wonder how many politicians are at least 2 of the 3.

[QUOTE=Harnbrand;42610913]Lying is an antisocial behavior? Ha! Society was built on lies.[/QUOTE] It's also perpetuated by lies.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42611025]I wonder how many politicians are at least 2 of the 3.[/QUOTE] How many politicians are religious businessmen? It'd be harder to find those who aren't.

[QUOTE=Explosions;42611422]How many politicians are religious businessmen? It'd be harder to find those who aren't.[/QUOTE] Again with you and the religion comments. There [I]are[/I] business major politicians with divorced parents, ya know.

[QUOTE]• Students whose parents were divorced. This is in line with expectations, in thatpast research has found children of divorce are more likely to engage in anti-social behavior. Perhaps the belief they’ve been cheated out of a happy childhood may lead them to feel cheating is OK.[/QUOTE] as a person with divorced parents, my anecdotal evidence is not enough to dispute the validity of this finding.

From the Abstract of the actual study: "We find that sex, age, grade point average, student debt, size of return, socioeconomic status, and average time spent in religious observation are not related to the decision to lie." and "A subject’s major of study, the marital status of their parents, whether or not they were raised by a single parent, religious importance and whether or not the subjects came to collect their pay were important explanatory variables." I'm not sure how "religious importance" can be related while "religious observation" is unrelated when importance obviously leads to observation. [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] It seems they just took the word of the person in question when asking about how important religion was to them, but when they looked at the actual actions of the person as it related to religion the significance disappeared. It makes a whole lot more sense that the people who were more likely to lie were also more likely to lie about their religious importance in order to make themselves seem more honest.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;42612259]Again with you and the religion comments. There [I]are[/I] business major politicians with divorced parents, ya know.[/QUOTE] What does this mean "with the religion comments"? Are you seriously claiming that most politicians aren't religious? I didn't even say whether this was a good or bad thing.

To be religious you sorta have to believe into a lot of lies. The shit that some of the religious storybooks claim is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Explosions;42612702]What does this mean "with the religion comments"? Are you seriously claiming that most politicians aren't religious? I didn't even say whether this was a good or bad thing.[/QUOTE] No, but this is literally the second thread today where you've opened with a jab at it.