• Lomography - Film cameras aint' so bad after all
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Ever heard of lomography? Well, if you haven't, now you will. [B]What is it?[/B] In lomography, you take pictures from anything you can imagine - with a film camera. Why film? Because taking pictures with a cheap film camera makes every picture unique with all kinds of wierd "failures" that film causes. [B]Is it that simple?[/B] Nope. There is also a bunch of things about the camera. You might want to use a real Lomography camera (they are quite cheap) with special accessories like Coloursplash-flash, fisheye lens, positive film, splitzers, double-exposure... [B]Tell me more about those.[/B] Let's start with the lenses: to create some fancy feeling on the picture, use a Fisheye-lens; your picture will look like this: [IMG]http://photos.lomography.com/576/384/4b/8240e30a56018d0e9a316f107230144cc50ee5.jpg[/IMG] You can also use accessories outside the lens, like vigneting or splitzer: [IMG]http://photos.lomography.com/567/576/0e/219f354c19706c51d325da8df17532478bf44e.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://photos.lomography.com/576/372/99/348e378b85138483fc7479c9b2847a6924242b.jpg[/IMG] Wait, there are two photos on the lower pic? Oh, double exposure! You can take two or more pics in one frame using multiple exposures (MX) mode in your camera. Lomographic Coloursplash flash is a external flash you can slip in to the hotshoe of your camera. [IMG]http://assets2.lomography.com/576/384/64/239a406ef9955c6312ff5f4f05979e5f82e499.jpg?auth=80743c781ee30cb032a5511f30774673a30bae1e[/IMG] Bulb (B) is a mode with some cameras that allows you to hold the shutter open as long as you want. Go outside at night, head out to a place with moving light (highway, ferris wheel) and hold the camera on a steady surface to capture beautiful pictures or just jump around to create unique streams of light! [IMG]http://photos.lomography.com/576/383/9e/39746e3e712caa220064b0f2fc3778f44ad387.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://photos.lomography.com/576/389/53/c69432212ec7ae0874689a639f4612bf2b71ae.jpg[/IMG] Different films can give your photos a nice touch. Some films have a specific coulour, some are black and white and some just mix up the colors in a cool way. [IMG]http://photos.lomography.com/959/385/13/bc57aaaa0e7ed9b19e010b3df463b99c594c82.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://photos.lomography.com/576/389/8f/f9cae982cde1b785cf6757f5f0463004856b3c.jpg[/IMG] There is more of these things, like cross-processing, but I listed the ones I somehow know. [B]Cameras[/B] The most important, popular and recent cameras: [B]Fisheye & Fisheye 2[/B] [IMG]https://www.ifmusic.co.uk/images/product_images/fisheye2.jpg[/IMG] The Lomograhys Fisheye is a basic camera with basic functions: Fisheye comes with built in-flash and a Fisheye lens. Pretty simple and the price is around $40 bucks. The Fisheye 2 (in the picture) is almost the same camera, but with many more functions: Multiple Exposures, Bulb-mode, Lock-mode, hotshoe, Fisheye viewfinder... I have this model. There is also a underwater Fisheye: Fisheye Submarine. [B]Diana[/B] [IMG]http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/diana-fmr_pink_camera.jpg[/IMG] Diana F+ is another very basic camera, and it originates from sixties. It has external flash, B-mode, lock, Tripod Thread, and removable lens. It has two picture sizes: 5.2x5.2cm and 4.2x4.2cm. Diana series include couple of colour variations, like Mr. Pink (Pic) and Diana Mini, a smaller Diana. [B]Lomo LC-A[/B] [IMG]http://www.crowndozen.com/main/LOMO%20LC-A%20%2B.jpg[/IMG] This one is a Original Lomo! It is now made in China after the production in St. Petersburg stopped in 2005. LC-A+ has MX, B, hotshoe, and accesories include a splitzer. Tunnel effect/vigneting is also possible. [B]Holga[/B] [IMG]http://theestateofthings.com/images/holga-camera.jpg[/IMG] There's a ton of these - check their [URL="http://shop.lomography.com/cameras/holga-cameras"]site.[/URL][B] Lomographic history[/B] -1914: The Optical Works Lomo PLC are found in St. Petersburg, Soviet Union -1984: Lomo LC-A Camera is released in the Soviet Union -1991: Austrian students discover the Lomo LC-A in Prague, Chez Republic -1992: The Lomographic society international and the [URL="http://www.lomography.com/about/the-ten-golden-rules"]10 golden rules[/URL] of Lomography are created. -1994: The first international Lomographic exhibition takes place in Moscow and New York -1996: [URL="http://www.lomography.com/"]Lomography.com[/URL] is launched and it becomes the homebase of worldwide lomographers -2000: The Lomographic society presents its first self-developed camera: The Supersampler. Many cameras and products follow. So, your toughts? Are there any lomographers in FP? [b]Pics taken by me[/b] [img_thumb]http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4525/img006rw.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4632/img007pi.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5732/img005r.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2295/pulut.jpg[/img_thumb] Links: [URL]http://www.lomography.com/[/URL] [URL]http://shop.lomography.com/[/URL] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lomography[/URL]
i have an action sampler, looks like this: [img]http://lomographic-cameras.digital-camera-near.com/images/Lomographic-Action-Sampler-35mm-Camera-B00004S9WQ-L.jpg[/img] i've only used it once, and the photos are pretty rubbish, but i enjoyed it! i love lomography, have been trying to get into it for the last few years but don't seem to have the time >_< [img]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2278/2431313373_d9156dd02c.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=YoMother;25461751]Film is cool if you're going for a 90's look, but otherwise you might as well use a DSLR[/QUOTE] "90s look"? there is so much more you can achieve with lomography (and similiar type) cameras that you can't replicate digitally, that's the fun in it.
tbh I find most of the example pictures pretty ugly from the op
[img]http://surkrew.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/asf_samples.jpg[/img] [img]http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/photo/detailpage/lomo_fisheye_samples_2.jpg[/img] [img]http://fusshop.co.uk/images/other/lomography/holga/lomo_holga_5.jpg[/img] [img]http://media.smashingmagazine.com/cdn_smash/images/disturbing-beauty-lomography/diana.jpg[/img] i think they're quirky, and i like them a lot
^ the last two look pretty cool, but I'm not really sure what's so cool about the other ones
Are they really that expensive? I've done a ton of this kind of stuff with a holga back in high school before the darkroom closed. It ran me about $25 total. I don't really think you need special lomo film.
I have a couple of them. Got them off ebay for cheap, where as if I bought them in the camera store I would have spent a fortune. They are great little cameras to mess around with, other than that they can be pretty useless. Especially trash cams which you can get on ebay next to nothing. But in the end, I like my Leicas, mamiya's and rolleiflex, when it comes to film. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=ShotgunDude;25461893]Are they really that expensive? I've done a ton of this kind of stuff with a holga back in high school the darkroom closed. It ran me about $25 total. I don't really think you need special lomo film.[/QUOTE] If you want to buy some, go for them online and try get second hand. A Lot of people who sell them will try to rip you off, so be careful. If you think it's not worth the price they are selling them at then don't buy it.
[QUOTE=Autumn;25461731]i have an action sampler, looks like this: [img_thumb]http://lomographic-cameras.digital-camera-near.com/images/Lomographic-Action-Sampler-35mm-Camera-B00004S9WQ-L.jpg[/img_thumb] i've only used it once, and the photos are pretty rubbish, but i enjoyed it! i love lomography, have been trying to get into it for the last few years but don't seem to have the time >_< [img_thumb]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2278/2431313373_d9156dd02c.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Do I recognize a Dutch railway station there?
Sorta looks like a hipster thing to me.
[QUOTE=strider;25461944]Do I recognize a Dutch railway station there?[/QUOTE] yep :D pretty sure it was at voorschoten :) [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] and shotgundude, you don't need to use the lomo film specifically. so long as it's the right format anything goes :) although supposedly you can get better results on lomo film
[quote=ShotgunDude;25461893]Are they really that expensive?[/quote] Got my Fisheye 2 for 60&#8364; from Estonia. Offical site says 80&#8364;.
[QUOTE=ShotgunDude;25461893]Are they really that expensive? I've done a ton of this kind of stuff with a holga back in high school before the darkroom closed. It ran me about $25 total. I don't really think you need special lomo film.[/QUOTE] You don't necessarily need a Holga. The idea is the process by which you take the photo, click away, don't think - anything that captures your attention or interest. Shoot from different angles, don't worry too much about focus etc. You could pick up any old cheap, plastic, foreign camera from most charity shops and buy the cheapest film you can. Pick it up and head out.
[QUOTE=crazysack;25461900]I have a couple of them. Got them off ebay for cheap, where as if I bought them in the camera store I would have spent a fortune. They are great little cameras to mess around with, other than that they can be pretty useless. Especially trash cams which you can get on ebay next to nothing. But in the end, I like my Leicas, mamiya's and rolleiflex, when it comes to film. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] If you want to buy some, go for them online and try get second hand. A Lot of people who sell them will try to rip you off, so be careful. If you think it's not worth the price they are selling them at then don't buy it.[/QUOTE] I guess that's the most logical choice. For photo stuff, I rarely buy new. Also, +1 on Mamiya. I love my 645. [QUOTE=Pickwickian-;25462100]You don't necessarily need a Holga. The idea is the process by which you take the photo, click away, don't think - anything that captures your attention or interest. Shoot from different angles, don't worry too much about focus etc. You could pick up any old cheap, plastic, foreign camera from most charity shops and buy the cheapest film you can. Pick it up and head out.[/QUOTE] I'm aware, I just think that some of products on that site seem a little over priced.
I have a Rollei 35B sitting around somewhere, it's a neat little camera, the only problem is it doesn't have a built in light meter so you have to bring one out with you. I got it second hand off eBay too, so the dials and everything are a little sticky or fiddly but I love it, I think it gives it character.
[QUOTE=ShotgunDude;25462152]I guess that's the most logical choice. For photo stuff, I rarely buy new. Also, +1 on Mamiya. I love my 645. I'm aware, I just think that some of products on that site seem a little over priced.[/QUOTE] Of course they are. Holgas have been jumped on by a million people because they've become popular. I even own one myself - paid for it as well. I converted mine to shoot 35mm instead of medium format though - I can't afford to shoot on larger film.
I once tried to do something like that with photoshop. Not that unique [img]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs45/i/2009/159/8/0/Earth_by_swebonny.jpg[/img]
In fact, my favourite 35mm cameras to shoot on are the Halina 3000 [img]http://logic44.co.uk/mark/Cameras/Halina%203000.JPG[/img] And the Olympus Trip 35 [img]http://www.thecamerasite.net/07_Viewfinder_Cameras/Images/Olympus-Trip.jpg[/img] Use them in much the same way as a Holga, although, I do like to take a little more care with how many frames I'm shooting - maybe think about the shots a little more carefully since they have various settings - but manual light readers which is awesome.
When I developed my pictures in Estonian place, the stupid people there threw my MX pics away :mad:
Wow do I smell hipster in here?
Those Fisheye lens remind me of Skate.
Hipstershit. As well as my main course, I'm also a student of photography, and this thread hurts to read.
i studied photography and i think it's pretty limiting and naive to just throw out low fi photography just because you think that it's 'hipster' [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] are you one of those people that thinks photography is just about the megapixels and studio flash?
Hipster shit Shoot lomo errry day [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] I still trust my OM-1 when it comes to film, I will even rate myself for this
There's really no effect there that you couldn't replicate digitally, and if you take pictures using a good camera to begin with, you can destroy the (digital) negative later. With a normal camera, you would still have the option of a more true to life version, too.
[QUOTE=evilking1;25465176]Hipster shit Shoot lomo errry day [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] I still trust my OM-1 when it comes to film, I will even rate myself for this[/QUOTE] i have an OM-20 and would take that any day over lomography cameras for most film photos, but there's still an appeal in lomo. [editline]17th October 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Kagrenak;25465192]There's really no effect there that you couldn't replicate digitally, and if you take pictures using a good camera to begin with, you can destroy the (digital) negative later. With a normal camera, you would still have the option of a more true to life version, too.[/QUOTE] that's really not the point. the point is that you don't know exactly what you've taken and how it's going to turn out until you get it developed.
[QUOTE=Autumn;25465941] that's really not the point. the point is that you don't know exactly what you've taken and how it's going to turn out until you get it developed.[/QUOTE] This effectively ruins the whole point of intent in art. Throwing paint at a canvas isn't art, and neither are random snapshots with shit technique and questionable film.
[quote=Kagrenak]This effectively ruins the whole point of intent in art. Throwing paint at a canvas isn't art, and neither are random snapshots with shit technique and questionable film.[/quote] Lomography is like jazz; the ones who don't understand it can't stand it.
[QUOTE=ForestRaptor;25466315]Lomography is like jazz; the ones who don't understand it can't stand it.[/QUOTE] No, because Jazz has intent, myriad amounts of thought behind it, and an immense amount of creative work goes into the production of it. The comparison is completely invalid, as this is pretty much foregoing all technique and skill needed for proper photography, no foresight is put into the imagery, no message comes forth from the work and there's no driving factor to any of it. This shit is no better than party snapshots, it just has a trendy sheen to it.
[quote=Kagrenak] No, because Jazz has intent, myriad amounts of thought behind it, and an immense amount of creative work goes into the production of it. The comparison is completely invalid, as this is pretty much foregoing all technique and skill needed for proper photography, no foresight is put into the imagery, no message comes forth from the work and there's no driving factor to any of it. This shit is no better than party snapshots, it just has a trendy sheen to it.[/quote] My comparasion was about a single thing these two have in common. And hey, nobody here was being offensive, so calm down a bit.
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