Netanyahu literally draws a red line on Iranian uranium enrichment
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[quote=AJE]Israel's prime minister has issued an ultimatum for Iran to halt its disputed nuclear aspirations or risk coming under military attack, during his speech to the UN.
Binyamin Netanyahu faced the world body on Thursday, after Barack Obama, the US president, disappointed some Israelis in his own address to the annual assembly by not calling for a deadline to be imposed on Tehran - though he did say time for diplomacy "is not unlimited".
Israel sees a mortal threat in a nuclear-armed Iran and has long threatened to strike its arch-foe pre-emptively, agitating war-weary world powers as they pursue sanctions and negotiations.
[B]'Clear red line'[/B]
Complicating Netanyahu's strategy have been his testy relations with Obama as a US election looms, and the reluctance of many Israelis to trigger a conflict with Iran, which denies that it is seeking to develop nuclear weapons and has pledged wide-ranging retaliation if attacked.
"The prime minister will set a clear red line in his speech that will not contradict Obama's remarks. Obama said Iran won't have nuclear weapons. The prime minister will clarify the way in which Iran won't have nuclear arms," a senior Israeli official said prior to the speech.
Though he has not previously detailed when Israel might be willing to go to war, Netanyahu has said Iran could have enough low-enriched uranium by early 2013 to refine to a high level of fissile purity for a first nuclear device.
Israel worries that this final step, if taken, could happen too quickly or quietly to be prevented.
Iran has said it has no plans to enrich uranium beyond the 20 per cent purity required to run a reactor producing medical isotopes. That level, however, brings raw uranium exponentially closer to the 90 per cent enrichment required for bomb fuel.
Though reputed to have the Middle East's sole nuclear arsenal, Israel would be hard-pressed to deliver lasting damage to Iran's remote facilities using its conventional forces, or to handle a multi-front war.
[B]US-Israel 'can work together'[/B]
Netanyahu's public calls for a US ultimatum have deepened acrimony with Obama, a Democrat accused by his Republican rivals of being soft on the Jewish state's security. That has stirred American accusations of Israeli meddling in the November presidential elections - something denied by Netanyahu.
Netanyahu, who heads a broad-based, conservative coalition government, departed for New York on Wednesday saying he would take the UN podium for an Israel "united in the goal of preventing Iran from achieving nuclear weaponry".
But surveys show that most Israelis - apparently swayed by the open dissent of several senior national-security figures - would oppose launching unilateral strikes on Iran, given the risk of alienating Washington and of provoking clashes with Tehran's allies in Lebanon and Gaza.
A poll published by the Israeli Haaretz newspaper on Thursday found that 50 per cent of Israelis feared for the survival of their country, should there be a conflict.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, said in his speech to the General Assembly on Wednesday, said Iran was under threat of military action from "uncivilised Zionists," a clear reference to Israel. Earlier this week, Ahmadinejad said that Israel would eventually be "eliminated".
Haaretz also ran excerpts from a leaked Foreign Ministry report that sanctions had caused greater damage to Iran's economy than anticipated by Israel.
The findings, confirmed to the Reuters news agency by an Israeli official, could undermine any attempt by Netanyahu to argue that the military alternative must be considered imminently.
Israeli opposition leader Shaul Mofaz criticised Netanyahu for sparring with Obama and voiced confidence in US resolve.
"I am convinced that the US, the president of the US, is determined to prevent Iran going nuclear," Mofaz told Israel's Army Radio.
Even within Netanyahu's coalition there have been misgivings about the pitch of disagreement with the US.
Danny Ayalon, the deputy to Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, described Obama's Iran remarks at the UN as "important, albeit measured".
Speaking on Israel Radio, Ayalon said the Netanyahu government and Obama administration were in discreet contacts and approaching agreement on setting limits for Iran.[/quote]
These guys are dramatizing shit like a reality television show would. Are you fucking serious a diagram wrapped inside an imminent bomb.
Cute, but
[b]leave us the fuck out of it[/b]
Do they really think a fucking drawing is going to stop Iran? are they that desperate?
He is trying to [I]draw[/I] the US into it
[QUOTE=greendevil;37821848]Do they really think a fucking drawing is going to stop Iran? are they that desperate?[/QUOTE]
I don't think that was the point of it.
He also kissed Obama's ass at least twice during his speech
The red line is above 90% enrichment? Really?
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;37821909]The red line is above 90% enrichment? Really?[/QUOTE]
No, you're kind of missing the context if you're looking only at the chart
Ignoring the moral issues of Iran's right of whether to obtain nuclear weapons or not. If the red line is at 90% enrichment, I really see no issues here.
[editline]27th September 2012[/editline]
But knowing Netanyahu, he'll still push for war even if Iran's only enriching safe medical levels at 20%.
Hasn't The US pretty much flat out said that they would not back Israel if they star a war?
[QUOTE=goon165;37822068]Hasn't The US pretty much flat out said that they would not back Israel if they star a war?[/QUOTE]
I do believe they'd still defend if Iran retaliated into Israel itself, but would not assist in any invasion of Iran.
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Kill all bob-ombs
Honestly, I feel like bitching at Iran for their nuclear program is only going to make the danger of them obtaining weapons worse by pissing them off.
okay one more
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I wasan't expecting that, but seriously its funny as fuck even if I hate Netanyahu with a fiery rage.
Can't you take care of it yourself Israel? Anyone else in the global community? Why the US?
its like rise of nations! They've almost built a nuke!
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;37825352]Can't you take care of it yourself Israel? Anyone else in the global community? Why the US?[/QUOTE]
Israel couldn't really do it alone.
I think the title should be "Netanyahu literally goes fucking insane in front of the UN"
Israel is trying everything in its power to not go to war, and to stop this peacefully.
Netanyahu said this multiple times throughout his speech, and even with his diagram, they really, REALLY, don't want to go to war unless it gets critical, and 90% enrichment is pretty much only needed for nukes.
[QUOTE=PassTheBong;37825363]its like rise of nations! They've almost built a nuke![/QUOTE]
Guess we'll just have to fill out our tech tree and research missile shield.
Israel should dismantle all of their nukes before saying ANYTHING to Iran. It's so hypocritical it's funny.
Who quotes Aljazeera with an article on Israel? might as well quote a WW2 German newspaper about the US.
[QUOTE=rangrangpkpk;37827095]Who quotes Aljazeera with an article on Israel? might as well quote a WW2 German newspaper about the US.[/QUOTE]
Aljazeera is one of the better news-agencies of the world.
[QUOTE=>VLN<;37825427]Israel is trying everything in its power to not go to war, and to stop this peacefully.
Netanyahu said this multiple times throughout his speech, and even with his diagram, they really, REALLY, don't want to go to war unless it gets critical, and 90% enrichment is pretty much only needed for nukes.[/QUOTE]
You mean the United States. Israel has been so eager to attack Iran that Netanyahu literally lectured and rebuffed Obama on Iran. And every two weeks you're going to hear Netanyahu say "diplomacy and sanctions do not work, let's attack now!"
[QUOTE=rangrangpkpk;37827095]Who quotes Aljazeera with an article on Israel? might as well quote a WW2 German newspaper about the US.[/QUOTE]
they're brown so they don't count
get me an american source right now
iran would never nuke israel. its in the middle of a whole sub-continent's worth of muslim countries are you fucking kidding me? if its one thing israel is safe from its a nuclear attack.
[QUOTE=Fhenexx;37822203]I do believe they'd still defend if Iran retaliated into Israel itself, but would not assist in any invasion of Iran.[/QUOTE]
Israel wouldn't invade anyways. There are obvious logistical issues with a small country moving an invasion force from the mediterranean to the persian gulf.
They would probably just bomb Iran's reactors like they did with with Iraq.
[editline]28th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=King Tiger;37825551]Israel should dismantle all of their nukes before saying ANYTHING to Iran. It's so hypocritical it's funny.[/QUOTE]
Almost all your enemies have nukes and you don't, then people wonder why you want nukes.
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