• Zootopia - The Collar (Deleted Scene)
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what? [sp]Never saw the movie, but I'm guessing they slap pacifying collars on every animal to prevent them from going feral?[/sp]
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50505126]what? [sp]Never saw the movie, but I'm guessing they slap pacifying collars on every animal to prevent them from going feral?[/sp][/QUOTE] The original idea the creators had was that ferals was supressed with collars to zap them if they get aggressive thoughts
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50505126]what? [sp]Never saw the movie, but I'm guessing they slap pacifying collars on every animal to prevent them from going feral?[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]No it's something they scrapped, there's a deleted storyboard scene that also shows the collars as well. The collars aren't in the movie at all.[/sp]
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Zootopia's original plot was a much darker story involving all of the predators being forced to wear shock collars by a controlling and afraid herbivore majority.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50505191]Zootopia's original plot was a much darker story involving all of the predators being forced to wear shock collars by a controlling and afraid herbivore majority.[/QUOTE] Would been more interesting tbh.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50505397]Would been more interesting tbh.[/QUOTE] I thought the [sp]conspiracy to show carnivores as becoming feral in order to suppress them and empower small herbivores[/sp] was interesting an unexpected.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50505397]Would been more interesting tbh.[/QUOTE] it made the viewer dislike the city and see no reason to want the characters to stay since it felt irreperably broken. There'd be no resolution to the city's problem, just escaping and letting it continue to affect everyone else. also this is a way more extended cut than the one usually shown off, it's weird. The roller coaster of freedom feelings and the last line about a dollar for 5 minutes of freedom was very plot relevant in the old one, he tries opening a theme park for predators where they can be free and have a bunch of fun without their collars shocking them at the slightest increase in heartrate
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50505397]Would been more interesting tbh.[/QUOTE] I think it'd be risky for Disney to release a film that's about a city/country of animals in which roughly half the population is treated as second-class citizens and subjected to permanent mandatory restraints out of the paranoid fear that they're so stupid and controlled by their basic primitive instincts that they'll chimp out and attack the rest of the population as soon as they're given an instant of freedom, and to have this as a fully-established, [I]1984[/I]-style authoritarian hellhole at the outset of the film. I'm sorry for the racial slur and I don't mean to offend anyone by including it in this post, but it's both an animal pun that I couldn't resist and it's exactly the kind of racial bigotry I'm trying to invoke. Zootopia's actual plot has a strong background of racial allegory, but I don't think Disney would go with such a controversial plot. Not everyone has the balls to pull a [I]Maus[/I].
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;50505397]Would been more interesting tbh.[/QUOTE] I liked the movie the way it is, in fact I liked it more than I thought I was going to. [sp]Do they ever mention there being other cities besides Zootopia? Because if they did I missed it. I also don't recall seeing any monkeys or apes either.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Bbarnes005;50505681]I liked the movie the way it is, in fact I liked it more than I thought I was going to. [sp]Do they ever mention there being other cities besides Zootopia? Because if they did I missed it. I also don't recall seeing any monkeys or apes either.[/sp][/QUOTE] removing humans but evolving apes probably would have been a little redundant since we're relatively the same family of animals, their major point was this was a world where humans never existed and the rest of the animal kingdom evolved. Also, the creators have mentioned there's totally room for other cities/societies (like a reptile based city or marine city isn't out of the question) within the story universe, but going into any detail just to explain that stuff would be unnecessary fluff taking up screentime
After seeing the movie today, I'm glad with what we got, the last half of the film got pretty darn dark, but it never went too far. It was a good balance of humor and drama, and still retained a powerful message that kids can learn from. I think this was the type of movie that we needed this year.
[QUOTE=dai;50505706]removing humans but evolving apes probably would have been a little redundant since we're relatively the same family of animals, their major point was this was a world where humans never existed and the rest of the animal kingdom evolved. Also, the creators have mentioned there's totally room for other cities/societies (like a reptile based city or marine city isn't out of the question) within the story universe, but going into any detail just to explain that stuff would be unnecessary fluff taking up screentime[/QUOTE] If I remember it right, on her way in to the city doesn't Judy see a massive tree that has stuff built in to it?
[QUOTE=MILKE;50505180]The original idea the creators had was that ferals was supressed with collars to zap them if they get aggressive thoughts[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50505191]Zootopia's original plot was a much darker story involving all of the predators being forced to wear shock collars by a controlling and afraid herbivore majority.[/QUOTE] That sounds too 1984 for a disney movie. [joke]I don't want the next generation of furries to also have conspiracy theories involving the government is trying to control our thoughts[/joke]
[url=https://my.mixtape.moe/ynbxir.webm]Holy shit this deleted scene[/url] Like the concept is fascinating and I want to see this version of the film but I can see how it probably wouldn't be as popular
[sp]I wonder if they could use this concept in some way for the sequel with this whole collar thing being the aftermath of the feral problem in the first movie.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Dr.Cola;50510065][sp]I wonder if they could use this concept in some way for the sequel with this whole collar thing being the aftermath of the feral problem in the first movie.[/sp][/QUOTE] With the ending, I doubt it. Would like to see the pair have to go to one of the other cities (reptiles, fish, birds, ect) in the sequel instead of revisiting the same problem.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;50509057][url=https://my.mixtape.moe/ynbxir.webm]Holy shit this deleted scene[/url] Like the concept is fascinating and I want to see this version of the film but I can see how it probably wouldn't be as popular[/QUOTE] Shit that is dark, it would make a interesting movie but i think the storyboard they got now is more suitable.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;50509057][url=https://my.mixtape.moe/ynbxir.webm]Holy shit this deleted scene[/url] Like the concept is fascinating and I want to see this version of the film but I can see how it probably wouldn't be as popular[/QUOTE] Is that Bob Odinkirk?
[QUOTE=Dr.Cola;50510065][sp]I wonder if they could use this concept in some way for the sequel with this whole collar thing being the aftermath of the feral problem in the first movie.[/sp][/QUOTE] the [sp]fear of predators being uncontrollable and vicious[/sp] that founded the original idea of the collars was introduced, [I]then resolved[/I] in the plot of the movie. Resorting to collaring preds [I]after[/I] the plot ended would mean the lesson wasn't learned ([sp]prejudice can be unfounded/misled[/sp]), and the bad guy would have won I couldn't tell you where the next movie could/should go, but I can't wait [editline]e[/editline] in regards to that other scene with the coming of age collar thing, the directors saw that as one of the most pivotal, moving scenes where judy really starts to understand what predators are going through and wants to help nick fix it but again, that plot plants collars and distrust as a long-standing societal norm by that point, that predators were ALWAYS seen as untrustworthy and violent [i]since the founding of the city[/i], it's hard to fix that without it being some magic happy ending BS. In the current rendition we're provided pieces of evidence to judge as it goes, and often the audience member may think they came to a conclusion two or three different times only to find out that wasn't the solution. They play on your own formed bias based on the information presented, and while you want to side with the main characters, you can totally understand where the paranoia and distrust came from in the first place, and it's such a recent [sp]and unnatural/character driven[/sp] development that fixing the cause of the problem is a totally viable outcome
[QUOTE=Shibbey;50509057][url=https://my.mixtape.moe/ynbxir.webm]Holy shit this deleted scene[/url] Like the concept is fascinating and I want to see this version of the film but I can see how it probably wouldn't be as popular[/QUOTE] This looks way more interesting than we got now.
[QUOTE=Dr.Cola;50510065][sp]I wonder if they could use this concept in some way for the sequel with this whole collar thing being the aftermath of the feral problem in the first movie.[/sp][/QUOTE] This wouldn't make any sense because [sp]the feral problem was a ruse. That was the point of the "A bunny CAN go savage," realization she had when she figured out night howlers were a toxic plant. Predators were only targeted specifically to vilify them.[/sp]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50505191]Zootopia's original plot was a much darker story involving all of the predators being forced to wear shock collars by a controlling and afraid herbivore majority.[/QUOTE] [sp]I like how the original plot of the film is the nightmare scenario they avoid in the final product. They saw the unfortunate implications of their original vision and used it in the updated plot.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Shibbey;50509057][url=https://my.mixtape.moe/ynbxir.webm]Holy shit this deleted scene[/url] Like the concept is fascinating and I want to see this version of the film but I can see how it probably wouldn't be as popular[/QUOTE] The whole scene is just way more intense, fuck me that would've been a dark movie. The new one is more suitable, but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't have loved the darker version.
...Bob Odenkirk? [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] Damn that's some powerful shit there. Almost want to see the whole thing like that
[video=youtube_share;eNY3TBMILgI]http://youtu.be/eNY3TBMILgI[/video] Found some more deleted scenes regarding Nicks theme park, Wild Times. (Which got completly cut from the movie)
While the current version is great, I would have loved to have seen the original. Plus, the current version could have easily been made into a sequel for the original version. You'd really only need to change the beginning.
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50512964]...Bob Odenkirk? [editline]13th June 2016[/editline] Damn that's some powerful shit there. Almost want to see the whole thing like that[/QUOTE] Studios bring in lesser knowns and professional VA's (people like Maurice Lamarch, Tara Strong, etc) in storyboarding and screen testing to save money while they feel the film out. A good example is the Popeye screen test a few years ago. They brought in pro cartoon VA's with the intention to replace them with big name talent to draw the audience in. It's the reason the pro VA's get side characters and extras, and the big stars get the leads. In this case though, maybe they changed their minds on Odenkirk during the transition to the animation phase, as Nick was played by Jason Bateman in the collar deleted scene. We will never know by speculation though. Bob Odenkirk isn't that big, you could probably tweet at him, or ask him when he goes to a Convention.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;50509057][url=https://my.mixtape.moe/ynbxir.webm]Holy shit this deleted scene[/url] Like the concept is fascinating and I want to see this version of the film but I can see how it probably wouldn't be as popular[/QUOTE] While the serious tone hit me kinda hard, I still can't get myself to watch the scene with a totally straight face since it takes place during a bear mitzvah.
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