• 'Israeli spy' Hanged by Iranians
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[quote]Iran has hanged a man after finding him guilty of spying for Israel's intelligence service, the official Irna news agency says. Ali Akbar Siadat, an Iranian, was executed inside Tehran's Evin prison, according to judicial officials. Irna said he was in contact with the Israeli spy agency Mossad for several years, and had passed on information about Iran's military activities. He was arrested in 2008, when he tried to leave Iran with his wife. Siadat "confessed that he had transferred information to Mossad about Iran's military activities," Irna said, adding that he had "received $60,000 to give classified information to the Zionist regime". He was accused of providing details about military bases, fighter jets, training flights, air crashes and missiles. It was not clear from the Irna report if Saidat was a government employee, or how he obtained the information. He allegedly met his contacts from the Israeli intelligence service during trips to Turkey, Thailand and the Netherlands. Espionage is punishable by death under Iranian law. In 2008 an Iranian telecoms engineer, Ali Ashtari, was hanged after being convicted of spying for Mossad. Correspondents say Tehran routinely accuses Israel of conducting hostile activities against Iran, including espionage against its armed forces and its nuclear programme. Opposition activist Irna said a second man, Ali Saremi, was also hanged on Tuesday. Saremi was alleged to be a member of the opposition group, People's Mujahideen Organisation of Iran (PMOI) - which Tehran says is a terrorist organisation. He had been arrested several times since 1983. The authorities say that when he was arrested for the final time in 2007, they found CDs, photos and hand-written documents about the PMOI in his house.[/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12084885[/url] This seems abit... Extreme. But then everything Iran does is too extreme.
Captured spies have always faced the death penalty, although these days they are more valuable alive as they can be traded for other spies etc.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;27023075][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12084885[/url] This seems abit... Extreme.[/QUOTE] This is Iran. Known for whipping children who have their cellphones on in class.
Crazy....
Treason in America is punishable by death. And it's not like he did anything remotely related to WikiLeaks' cause (exposing war crimes e.g), he provided vital information about Iran's military bases, fighter jets, training flights, air crashes and missiles which is undoubtedly a threat to Iran's national security.
That jew is a spy!
[QUOTE=Dr. G;27023375]Treason in America is punishable by death. And it's not like he did anything remotely related to WikiLeaks' cause (exposing war crimes e.g), he provided vital information about Iran's military bases, fighter jets, training flights, air crashes and missiles which is undoubtedly a threat to Iran's national security.[/QUOTE] I mean the outdated act of hanging someone.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;27023481]I mean the outdated act of hanging someone.[/QUOTE] killing someone is killing someone. Plus the middle eastern countries are known for still using hanging, look at Saddam.
[QUOTE=Dr. G;27023375]Treason in America is punishable by death. And it's not like he did anything remotely related to WikiLeaks' cause (exposing war crimes e.g), he provided vital information about Iran's military bases, fighter jets, training flights, air crashes and missiles which is undoubtedly a threat to Iran's national security.[/QUOTE] Espionage, not Treason. Also he's not really an Israeli spy so much as an Iranian militant/terrorist who sold information to Israel. Probably would of got the Death Penalty in Iran either way though.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;27023481]I mean the outdated act of hanging someone.[/QUOTE] They don't currently posses the capability of doing the lethal injection. It's firing squad, hanging or being stoned (which is currently in the process of being eliminated (being stoned)). Most videos taken of Iranian hangings show that the condemned usually fall from the platform enough distance to have their necks broken. From wiki [quote]Crimes against national security and the state are tried in the Islamic Revolutionary Court system. It handles all political, drug/arms, corruption, terrorism, espionage cases. These courts were originally created by Ayatollah Khomeini to eliminate political opponents and stabilize the country, and have no basis in Sharia law. People who go before these courts can get the death penalty or heavy prison sentences. They can be compared to the federal court system in the US.[/quote]
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;27023496]killing someone is killing someone. Plus the middle eastern countries are known for still using hanging, look at Saddam.[/QUOTE] Iran revived stoning in 1983 and only recently got rid of it again. Saudi Arabia still beheads people sometimes.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;27023138]This is Iran. Known for whipping children who have their cellphones on in class.[/QUOTE] That's Saudi
Oh its Iran, suddenly treason doesnt have the death penalty. You are all a bunch of hypocrits.
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;27024100]Oh its Iran, suddenly treason doesnt have the death penalty. You are all a bunch of hypocrits.[/QUOTE] It's not treason, it's espionage.
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;27024100]You are all a bunch of hypocrits.[/QUOTE] you realize that just now? honestly
Probably vengeance for those researchers metsada killed a while back.
Fun fact: in Norway you can get a job as an intelligence spy through Norways e-bay, finn.no You just have to be able to do 25 push-ups.
He probably wasn't even a spy, knowing Iran. Tragic.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;27043966]He probably wasn't even a spy, knowing Iran. Tragic.[/QUOTE] He confessed spying for Israel in 2004, unless you have absolute proof (which you act like you do) that he never did confess besides just 'guessing', don't even bother posting.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;27023481]I mean the outdated act of hanging someone.[/QUOTE] I'd rather be hung than lethally injected. Or better yet, firing squad.
It's not like any Iranian spy in Israel wouldn't have gotten the same treatment, this was expected, and whomever says otherwise is delusional.
[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;27023481]I mean the outdated act of hanging someone.[/QUOTE] If done correctly you will die a painless death (by breaking your neck).
[QUOTE=RayDark;27045820]It's not like any Iranian spy in Israel wouldn't have gotten the same treatment, this was expected, and whomever says otherwise is delusional.[/QUOTE] No, he would not, because there is no death sentence in Israel, only treason would get you that, and only while in wartime. There has been only one case where the death sentence was applied in Israel, and that was for Adolf Eichmann. Even Mordechai Vanunu, the guy who gave away Israeli nuclear secrets to foreign media got a jail sentence, and was recently released.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;27043966]He probably wasn't even a spy, knowing Iran. Tragic.[/QUOTE] You feel dumb as shit
[QUOTE=Dr. G;27044172]He confessed spying for Israel in 2004, unless you have absolute proof (which you act like you do) that he never did confess besides just 'guessing', don't even bother posting.[/QUOTE] "Herp a derp, it says he confessed, it MUST be true!" Of course, there's NO WAY Iran would ever lie about such a thing. Alternatively, I take it all the confessions of the Stalin Purges were true, then? Can we all stop being so naive?
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;27056541]"Herp a derp, it says he confessed, it MUST be true!" Of course, there's NO WAY Iran would ever lie about such a thing. Alternatively, I take it all the confessions of the Stalin Purges were true, then? Can we all stop being so naive?[/QUOTE] what he was saying is, you have no evidence to the contrary, so your idea has about as much validity as this idea, and since this spy theory is the only one officially offered up, it's the one we have to work with.
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;27057077]what he was saying is, you have no evidence to the contrary, so your idea has about as much validity as this idea, and since this spy theory is the only one officially offered up, it's the one we have to work with.[/QUOTE] Well, here's my theory, and given Iran's track record on law and human rights, it holds as much water as theirs. Alternatively, you're just going to accept it, because you can't prove the opposite? In that case, ALL of the confessions of the Soviet Purges must be taken as true, along with every other confession in the world not concretely proven to be false, regardless of likelihood. I suppose the Iranian woman sentenced to be hanged also did plot to kill her husband then, because that's what Iran says.
[QUOTE=Boeing787;27023136]Captured spies have always faced the death penalty, although these days they are more valuable alive as they can be traded for other spies etc.[/QUOTE] International espionage trading cards
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;27057175]Well, here's my theory, and given Iran's track record on law and human rights, it holds as much water as theirs. Alternatively, you're just going to accept it, because you can't prove the opposite? In that case, ALL of the confessions of the Soviet Purges must be taken as true, along with every other confession in the world not concretely proven to be false, regardless of likelihood. I suppose the Iranian woman sentenced to be hanged also did plot to kill her husband then, because that's what Iran says.[/QUOTE] I'm just working under the Zebra vs Horse theory, it's entirely possible that Israel would have an informant embedded in Iran, considering the situation between Israel and other middle eastern countries. Obviously there is a chance that it could be otherwise, and I'm not condoning the execution of this guy - I abjure the death penalty in all cases - but it is a perfectly reasonable assumption that this guy was in fact an Israeli informant. [editline]29th December 2010[/editline] you hear hooves in the distance, you generally think 'horse'
[QUOTE=strayebyrd;27059749]I'm just working under the Zebra vs Horse theory, it's entirely possible that Israel would have an informant embedded in Iran, considering the situation between Israel and other middle eastern countries. Obviously there is a chance that it could be otherwise, and I'm not condoning the execution of this guy - I abjure the death penalty in all cases - but it is a perfectly reasonable assumption that this guy was in fact an Israeli informant. [editline]29th December 2010[/editline] you hear hooves in the distance, you generally think 'horse'[/QUOTE] Wrong. Read the fucking article and my post just a bit up. He wasn't an actual Israeli spy, just an Iranian terrorist who sold Israel information. He would've gotten death from being a terrorist anyway but what he confessed to doesn't seem that absurd given Israel probably wanted to know and he probably wanted the money. It could be a complete fabrication by Iran, but I think they would've come up with something a little more damning to them than information dealing with a terrorist.
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