• Michigan Republicans moving to privatize education in Detroit
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[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bDERqypFTHc/ULfHJZCqwxI/AAAAAAAABsI/R9DwK87HjtE/s1600/capitalist-king.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://media.mlive.com/elections_impact/photo/ricksnydereducationjpg-4c4d2e479c9db3c7.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]On November 28th, Independent Underground wrote this blog post/article -"The Sky Has Fallen on Free Public Educational System in Michigan for Decades, nearly no one cared" - detailing history about the effort to Privatize Michigan's Public Systems. This effort appears to be an on accelerated fast track pace, to pass the Lame-Duck Session of a Republican Controlled State House and Senate. We cross-post the article at Daily Kos, a highly-followed political diary site. I.U. News (formerly ROJS News) owner and executive producer of I.U. Radio LIVE, Monica RW has been a contributor on Daily Kos since August 30, 2008, under the user name Kayla9170. In no way, shape, form or matter do we fault Daily Kos and or an large majority its' members who contribute written works and comment the diaries. Instead, this specific case is addressed to an D.K. member user named Surelyujest, or whatever their real identity might be. Synopsis of the article - "The Sky Has Fallen on Free Public Educational System in Michigan for Decades, nearly no one cared" The original article, "The Sky Has Fallen on Free Public Educational System in Michigan for Decades, nearly no one cared," examined on how since 1999 efforts were made by Republican and Democratic elected officials and interest groups, moving the State Public School System towards a For-Profit Corporate Education Economic Model. This effort begun in the Detroit Public School System, nearly 14 years since, has moved into other highly populated minority districts including Benton Harbor, Muskegon, Pontiac and Inkster Public Schools, to name a few. In lame-duck session of Michigan Republican Controlled Legislature, GOP politicians have introduced bills: H.B. 6004, H.B. 5923, S.B. 1358 along with 2011's proposed legislation S.B. 620, squarely focused on expanding Governor Rick Snyder's (R) power to regulate privatized incorporated charter schools in Michigan. Through Michigan's Educational Achievement Authority or E.A.A., the Governor along with a 9 member appointed State School Board primary focus would be expanding so-called cyber-schools, ending local control of a Public School Districts affairs and fiscal budget and sanction unlimited charter schools by the allocation of "certificates", focus on building corporate K-12 educational institutions across the entire state of Michigan. In the initial article and D.K. diary, Monica RW challenged Michigan residents to ponder if Racial and Economic Class division lines, has led to where we are today. Specifically, Michigan's entire K-12 student population is facing segmented educational standards based upon how stringent investors apply pressure for traded publicly incorporated educational companies, to secure high profits. For decades as discussed in the original article, "The Sky Has Fallen on Free Public Educational System in Michigan for Decades, nearly no one cared," the piece focused on how Suburban -well funded/less minority populated- school systems where placed in competition against -low funded/high minority populated- districts. This effort divided residents, local tax payers and Children, creating invisible school district boundary lines where matters simple as a five digit zip code the sole determining factor about the quality of education Michigan's students received. Zip code(s) and invisible district boundary lines were the overriding factor on if a Public School District would be taken over by politicians in Lansing and aligned interest groups. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.reachoutjobsearch.com/2012/12/cause-to-save-free-public-education-in.html#.UL1LjZ2unSZ[/url] This has been talked about for years now, been brought up many times throughout the years in news articles and radio talk show programs, and now it looks like may be happening.
Privatize education, so that way when you force the people to show up for school, they not only learn nothing, but they have to pay more to do it.
No real surprise. I'll honestly be shocked if 10 years from now any firmly Republican states still have public schools. They have hated the teachers unions for decades and will close each and every public school and replace them with private charter schools if that's what it takes to bust the unions. It's hard to see how schools in Michigan can really get any worse, but somehow I don't think nonunion teachers making $10 an hour are gonna make things much better.
So they are taking a system that is already renowned for being in dire financial straits and forcing it to make a profit. Sounds like this can only end well for the people of Detroit, and Michigan as a whole. /sarcasm
Why do they insist on making America even more retarded than themselves
I was reading about it in my university paper. This plan is near identical to one we rejected on referendum in 2006(?). To be fair DPS is absolute shit. I'm not convinced privatizing is the way to go (I'm opposed heavily to privatizing), but it really can't get much worse.
Someone explain to me why is it that pretty much every single goddamn thing that the Republicans come up with is fucking terrible Oh [I]right[/I], they're money-grubbing bastards who don't give a shit about anyone if they're not making a direct profit off of them. I forgot that part for a minute, sorry.
Because Detroit doesn't have enough problems.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;38695506]Because Detroit doesn't have enough problems.[/QUOTE] 99 problems but lack of public education wasnt 1
I for one would love to see the effects of such a system, but detroit is like... the last place to test such a thing.
[QUOTE=valkery;38695108]Privatize education, so that way when you force the people to show up for school, they not only learn nothing, but they have to pay more to do it.[/QUOTE] You're attacking the problem from the wrong angle. The problem with privatization, like you correctly stated, does lie in paying, but kids do benefit from it. The problem, however, is how costly education will quickly become in Detroit if this happens. Sure, test scores will increase, but you will also have far fewer kids in school, and there will (predictably) be an extremely large white majority, with a marginalized community consisting of people of color. Privatization of education en masse is a terrible idea because it strips many, if not all, of a fundamental right to a free education. This is a terrible fucking idea.
[QUOTE=SystemGS;38695564]You're attacking the problem from the wrong angle. The problem with privatization, like you correctly stated, does lie in paying, but kids do benefit from it. The problem, however, is how costly education will quickly become in Detroit if this happens. Sure, test scores will increase, but you will also have far fewer kids in school, and there will (predictably) be an extremely large white majority, with a marginalized community consisting of people of color. Privatization of education en masse is a terrible idea because it strips many, if not all, of a fundamental right to a free education. This is a terrible fucking idea.[/QUOTE] What about... both.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;38695538]I for one would love to see the effects of such a system, but detroit is like... the last place to test such a thing.[/QUOTE] Look up History.
My past physics teacher who taught in private school said it was a joke. They are so lenient on the kids most of the time that they would rarely assign due dates for work. They would but if you didnt get it turned in they would add another week, and another, and another. He ended up leaving private school because the one he taught at he was basically forced to pass his kids eventhough they knew nothing about what they were doing. Not saying all of them are like this, but it would make sense if the parents are paying the school directly.
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;38695619]What about... both.[/QUOTE] We already have that.
Universal Declaration of human rights - Article 26 [QUOTE] [B]#1[/B] Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. [B]#2[/B] Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace. [B]#3[/B] Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bradyns;38695839]Universal Declaration of human rights - Article 26[/QUOTE] thats just a bunch of unprofitable nonsense
[QUOTE=codemaster85;38695714] he was basically forced to pass his kids eventhough they knew nothing about what they were doing. [/QUOTE] That sounds like public school now.
[QUOTE=valkery;38695883]That sounds like public school now.[/QUOTE] That [I]is[/I] public school now. I passed with less than 1.9 GPA. [I]WHY.[/I]
[QUOTE=valkery;38695108]Privatize education, so that way when you force the people to show up for school, they not only learn nothing, but they have to pay more to do it.[/QUOTE] The entire point of privatizing education is that the parents and kids AREN'T forced to go to one specific shitty public school. Instead, they have the choice of going to a private school that would hopefully be less shitty because they actually have competition. Public schools have no competition, and therefore zero reason to improve. Trying to force them never ends well (see: No Child Left Behind Act).
[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;38697345]The entire point of privatizing education is that the parents and kids AREN'T forced to go to one specific shitty public school. Instead, they have the choice of going to a private school that would hopefully be less shitty because they actually have competition. [/QUOTE] kids aren't forced to go to shitty public schools, i imagine most kids go to shitty public schools because they can't afford expensive private schools
Instead of modivational posters, the classrooms will be covered in scrolling ads. [i]the horror[/i] [editline]3rd December 2012[/editline] [i]"If you have 10 McDonalds™ Big Macs™ and you eat 4, how many Big Macs™ do you have left?"[/i]
[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;38697345]Public schools have no competition, and therefore zero reason to improve. Trying to force them never ends well (see: No Child Left Behind Act).[/QUOTE] The NCLB Act didn't fail because it was "trying to force schools to improve", it failed because it was terrible fucking garbage.
[QUOTE=thisispain;38697384]kids aren't forced to go to shitty public schools, i imagine most kids go to shitty public schools because they can't afford expensive private schools[/QUOTE] Most US states have compulsory education, which basically means it's illegal to not go to school until you're 16-18 (depends on the state, and they sometimes have exceptions). Look up "truancy".
[QUOTE=ECrownofFire;38697413]Most US states have compulsory education, which basically means it's illegal to not go to school until you're 16-18 (depends on the state, and they sometimes have exceptions). Look up "truancy".[/QUOTE] yeah we weren't talking about that we were talking about going to private schools.
[QUOTE=thisispain;38697424]yeah we weren't talking about that we were talking about going to private schools.[/QUOTE] Charter schools, then?
charter schools aren't private schools
Anyone with a considerable amount of wealth in that area probably already sends their kids to a private school, so they're not really affected by this. So this is basically throwing the poor under the bus and putting extra cost burdens on the middle class.
who's actually going to put a private school into detroit there's no money in it
[QUOTE=Last or First;38695441]Someone explain to me why is it that pretty much every single goddamn thing that the Republicans come up with is fucking terrible Oh [I]right[/I], they're money-grubbing bastards who don't give a shit about anyone if they're not making a direct profit off of them. I forgot that part for a minute, sorry.[/QUOTE] Oh the democrats are wonderful people who want the best for america and its people right? imo the teachers' unions suck, though making it only privatized wouldn't be the way to go.
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