Anon warns NATO -- ""This is no longer your world. It is our world - the people's world."
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MspXpvz6jI4[/media]
[url]http://techland.time.com/2011/06/10/anonymous-warns-nato-this-is-not-your-world/[/url]
Transcript:
Greetings, members of NATO. We are Anonymous.
In a recent publication, you have singled out Anonymous as a threat to "government and the people". You have also alleged that secrecy is a 'necessary evil' and that transparency is npt always the right way forward.
Anonymous would like to remind you that the government and the people are, contrary to the supposed foundations of "democracy", distinct entities with often conflicting goals and desires. It is Anonymous' position that when there is a conflict of interest between the government and the people, it is the people's will which must take priority. The only threat transparency poses to government is to threaten government's ability to act in a manner which the people would disagree with, without having to face democratic consequences and accountability for such behaviour. Your own report cites a perfect example of this, the Anonymous attack on HBGary. Whether HBGary were acting in the cause of security or military gain is irrelevant - their actions were illegal and morally reprehensible. Anonymous does not accept that the government and/or the military has the right to be above the law and to use the phoney cliche of "national security" to justify illegal and deceptive activities. If the government must break the rules, they must also be willing to accept the democratic consequences of this at the ballot box.We do not accept the current status quo whereby a government can tell one story to the people and another in private. Dishonesty and secrecy totally undermine the concept of self rule. How can the people judge for whom to vote unless they are fully aware of what policies said politicians are actually pursuing?
When a government is elected, it is said to "represent" the nation it governs. This essentially means that the actions of a government are not the actions of the people in government, but are actions taken on behalf of every citizen in that country. It is unacceptable to have a situation in which the people are, in many cases, totally and utterly unaware of what is being said and done on their behalf - behind closed doors.
Anonymous and WikiLeaks are distinct entities. The actions of Anonymous were not aided or even requested by WikiLeaks. However, Anonymous and WikiLeaks do share one common attribute: They are no threat to any organization - unless that organization is doing something wrong and attempting to get away with it.
We do not wish to threaten anybody's way of life. We do not wish to dictate anything to anybody. We do not wish to terrorize any nation.
We merely wish to remove power from vested interests and return it to the people - who, in a democracy, it should never have been taken from in the first place.
The government makes the law. This does not give them the right to break it. If the government was doing nothing underhand or illegal, there would be nothing "embarassing" about Wikileaks revelations, nor would there have been any scandal emanating from HBGary. The resulting scandals were not a result of Anonymous' or Wikileaks' revelations, they were the result of the CONTENT of those revelations. And responsibility for that content can be laid solely at the doorstep of policymakers who, like any corrupt entity, naively believed that they were above the law and that they would not be caught.
A lot of government and corporate comment has been dedicated to "how we can avoid a similar leak in the future". Such advice ranges from better security, to lower levels of clearance, from harsher penalties for whistleblowers, to censorship of the press.
Our message is simple: Do not lie to the people and you won't have to worry about your lies being exposed. Do not make corrupt deals and you won't have to worry about your corruption being laid bare. Do not break the rules and you won't have to worry about getting in trouble for it.
Do not attempt to repair your two faces by concealing one of them. Instead, try having only one face - an honest, open and democratic one.
You know you do not fear us because we are a threat to society. You fear us because we are a threat to the established hierarchy. Anonymous has proven over the last several years that a hierarchy is not necessary in order to achieve great progress - perhaps what you truly fear in us, is the realization of your own irrelevance in an age which has outgrown its reliance on you. Your true terror is not in a collective of activists, but in the fact that you and everything you stand for have, by the changing tides and the advancement of technology, are now surplus to requirements.
Finally, do not make the mistake of challenging Anonymous. Do not make the mistake of believing you can behead a headless snake. If you slice off one head of Hydra, ten more heads will grow in its place. If you cut down one Anon, ten more will join us purely out of anger at your trampling of dissent.
Your only chance of defeating the movement which binds all of us is to accept it. This is no longer your world. It is our world - the people's world.
We are Anonymous.
We are legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us...
Subtitles would be nice because that artificial voice gives me a headache...
[QUOTE=Pixelnator;30376749]Subtitles would be nice because that artificial voice gives me a headache...[/QUOTE]
Done :)
NATO doesn't care enough to challenge Anonymous.
Anonymous is a group of retarded drama kids who think they are elitist and try to hack everything in the world, they piss me off.
This is so stupid.
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NATO aren't even particularly evil.
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A bunch of nerds versus NATO. Fight of the century.
funny
The guy who uploaded has his facebook account on his youtube account. That the end of the anonnimouse part.
WE ARE ANONYMOUS! WE ARE LEGION! WE CONSIST OF ABOUT 1000 AVERAGE PEOPLE! A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE A THING FOR HACKING!
Oh yeah? We are NATO, the Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization. We have hundreds of thousands of people, armed and ready for an actual war. And bombs. BRING-IT
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;30377383]WE ARE ANONYMOUS! WE ARE LEGION! WE CONSIST OF ABOUT 1000 AVERAGE PEOPLE! A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE A THING FOR HACKING!
Oh yeah? We are NATO, the Northern Atlantic Treaty Organization. We have hundreds of thousands of people, armed and ready for an actual war. And bombs. BRING-IT[/QUOTE]
Pretty much that
What the fuck are they doing.
Anon. you have made the biggest mistake of your lives.
Rating the OP funny because Anon is a joke.
Anon was cool to me until that incident with the young innocent child.
This......this is just cock waving in front of a very powerful organization.
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Mattk50 must be part of anon if he cares so much to dumb everyone in the thread.
I don't hope everyone in anon is anarchists idiots.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;30378283]Anon was cool to me until that incident with the young innocent child.
This......this is just cock waving in front of a very powerful organization.
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Mattk50 must be part of anon if he cares so much to dumb everyone in the thread.[/QUOTE]
The problem with anon is that it's not organised. If a few anons decide to go wave their dick at NATO it means all of anon are waving their dicks at NATO.
In a very cliché manner, their greatest strength is their greatest weakness.
Unless anon find us some UFO classified top secret files and other stuff like that, I really don't care.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;30378366]I don't hope everyone in anon is anarchists idiots.[/QUOTE]
Nope, they are.
They make some very good points but that doesn't stop anon from being nothing more than a few nerds.
... Yelled the dust mite to the lion.
Seems to make some good points IMO. Information that is leaked and embarrasses "professional bodies" and "government" shouldn't have to be leaked in the first place.
Yeah I agree and support anon all the way if their goal is like that of wikileaks.
Anon needs to shut the fuck up and stop behaving like they actually matter.
This is probably made by just a single guy hiding behind the Anon flag, that's the thing with Anon, you never know whether the whole group did it, or if it was just some guy in his basement using Anon to appear big.
either way jack shit will happen and the world keeps turning
[QUOTE=Turnips5;30376938]This is so stupid.
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NATO aren't even particularly evil.
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A bunch of nerds versus NATO. Fight of the century.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like an episode of Deadliest Warrior.
The anon hackers could use Stuxnext!
Fuck off anon, you think you're mysterious and epic but you just end up sounding like a pre-pubescent 8th Grader.
[QUOTE=Seiteki;30377500]Rating the OP funny because Anon is a joke.[/QUOTE]
I rated you funny
Also the video is kind of pointless, words from someone too scared to show their face and voice won't do anything. If anyone from NATO gets this, they will think anon is a punk bitch. IMO
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;30378283]Anon was cool to me until that incident with the young innocent child.
This......this is just cock waving in front of a very powerful organization.
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Mattk50 must be part of anon if he cares so much to dumb everyone in the thread.[/QUOTE]
the young innocent child was lulzsec, and you want more?
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