'Islamic State' reportedly training terrorists to enter Europe as asylum seekers - Polidicks

[quote=dw.com]Germany's spy agency has warned that the "Islamic State" (IS) is infiltrating refugee groups to get into Europe. Officials and analysts are now looking into methods by which potential terrorists can be spotted early. On November 13 last year, three teams of militants from the so-called "Islamic State" (IS), armed with Kalashnikovs, stormed the Stade de France stadium, the Bataclan concert hall and several pubs in Paris. The rampage left 130 people dead, 85 of them in Bataclan, where the band, the Eagles of Death Metal, was playing. Meanwhile, investigations have revealed that all nine men involved in the attacks had traveled to Europe together with the stream of refugees that entered the continent in 2015. According to German weekly "Welt am Sonntag," the country's spy agency, the "Bundesnachrichtendienst," (BND) has warned that IS is specifically training terrorists to merge with asylum seekers looking for safer havens in Europe. The report's authors say that the BND suggests that terrorists train potential attackers on how to answer questions during border interrogations so they can prove their credibility as refugees.[/quote] [url]http://www.dw.com/en/islamic-state-reportedly-training-terrorists-to-enter-europe-as-asylum-seekers/a-36389389[/url] Might be too many years late on this?

Didn't they or some other group say they were going to do this?

[QUOTE=Araknid;51374963]Didn't they or some other group say they were going to do this?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees[/url]

daesh is getting smarter or Germany was retarded the whole time.

[QUOTE=BioWaster;51374977]daesh is getting smarter or Germany was retarded the whole time.[/QUOTE] The west is incredibly naive when it comes to radical islam. Hopefully people are waking up, but it might be too late.

[QUOTE=BioWaster;51374977]daesh is getting smarter or Germany was retarded the whole time.[/QUOTE] The latter

I fear the media caught on to this much too late. This has been the case since even before the mass migration to europe.

Angela Merkel is an absolute mung. Her decisions have led to Germany being laughed at by terrorists, and she welcomes them with open bloody arms and hands.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51374984]The west is incredibly naive when it comes to radical islam. Hopefully people are waking up, but it might be too late.[/QUOTE] No we're not. It's just an extremely hard problem to tackle. I'd love to hear your vastly oversimplified 'solution' to it though.

[QUOTE=Clavus;51375183]No we're not. It's just an extremely hard problem to tackle. I'd love to hear your vastly oversimplified 'solution' to it though.[/QUOTE] How about "don't do what merkel did" for starters?

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51374957][url]http://www.dw.com/en/islamic-state-reportedly-training-terrorists-to-enter-europe-as-asylum-seekers/a-36389389[/url] Might be too many years late on this?[/QUOTE] Didn't they say they were doing this like multiple times over the years now?

[QUOTE=Covalent;51375135]Angela Merkel is an absolute mung. Her decisions have led to Germany being laughed at by terrorists, and she welcomes them with open bloody arms and hands.[/QUOTE] I personally think it's quite commendable that she didn't give into fear, and instead choose to give 10.000 refugees a chance instead of worrying about 1 terrorist. A refugee crisis is a struggle, it doesn't have pretty solutions.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;51375012]I fear the media caught on to this much too late. This has been the case since even before the mass migration to europe.[/QUOTE] The media has been aware of this for a few years but most of them who published articles were accused of racism or inciting hate.

Nobody ever questioned that this was a possibility or indeed something that was happening. Germany and many other countries simply put their faith in their police and anti-terror corps instead of barring hundreds of thousands of people in need from receiving help because one in thousand of them might be terrorists.

isis sees a refugee crisis and that some europeans are getting scared about so many muslims coming to their country. so they make it publicly known that they are training people to pose as refugees who are actually terrorists. what a great way to stop the europeans from saving ISIS's potential victims by turning them away en masse. looking forward to seeing Europe play itself

[QUOTE=Pops;51375185]How about "don't do what merkel did" for starters?[/QUOTE] A vastly oversimplified solution was requested, and yet I'm still baffled by how you managed to oversimplify the issue.

I feel like this was news like a year ago? That terrorists may potentially (and probably do) enter the EU as asylum seekers?

[QUOTE=Riller;51375199]A vastly oversimplified solution was requested, and yet I'm still baffled by how you managed to oversimplify the issue.[/QUOTE] Careful what you wish for.

[QUOTE=Pops;51375219]Careful what you wish for.[/QUOTE] I think you just like to sound smart and ominous.

This German spy agency seem like they are ahead of the game though. They might predict a Brexit in a few months.

[QUOTE=Clavus;51375223]I think you just like to sound smart and ominous.[/QUOTE] That is quite an ironic statement.

[QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51375228]This German spy agency seem like they are ahead of the game though.[/QUOTE] I think there are economic reasons. Most Germanic-European countries actually provide some perspective for refugees. The problem with France and Belgium is that refugees there end up in underdeveloped neighbourhoods where the police don't dare enter, which are a breeding ground for radicalisation.

[QUOTE=Pops;51375185]How about "don't do what merkel did" for starters?[/QUOTE] seriously. how about realize that maybe we can't accommodate asylum seekers from countries that have been so compromised by terrorism that everywhere they go, opportunist scumbag islamic state supporters will latch on and follow. that's just the icing on the cake, too. imagine [url=https://www.google.com/search?num=50&q=germany+evicting+citizens&oq=germany+evict&gs_l=serp.3.0.0l2j0i22i30k1l3.21627.28088.0.29974.29.23.5.1.2.0.253.2155.1j13j2.16.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..8.19.1620...0i67k1j0i131k1j0i131i67k1j0i10k1j0i22i10i30k1.tF029LB5p-k][b]evicting your own countrymen out of their homes to make room for foreigners.[/b][/url] don't get me started on the money they spent on the shitholes they call camps they made for migrants. fuck me. i wish i could say merkel is digging a hole for germany. it's more like she used a backhoe to make a hole and forcibly piledrived herself down it full speed.

thanks, you're one year late

[QUOTE=Clavus;51375246]I think there are economic reasons. Most Germanic-European countries actually provide some perspective for refugees. The problem with France and Belgium is that refugees there end up in underdeveloped neighbourhoods where the police don't dare enter, which are a breeding ground for radicalisation.[/QUOTE] So it's France and Belgium's economic policy that produces terrorists?

[QUOTE=Clavus;51375223]I think you just like to sound smart and ominous.[/QUOTE] I have a PHD in bullshit.

[QUOTE=TheJoey;51375272]seriously. how about realize that maybe we can't accommodate asylum seekers from countries that have been so compromised by terrorism that everywhere they go, opportunist scumbag islamic state supporters will latch on and follow.[/QUOTE] Even from those countries it's just one in many thousands of peaceful refugees that could be considered a terrorist. There's a reason these people are drowning by the hundreds to cross the Mediterranean. [QUOTE=TheJoey;51375272]that's just the icing on the cake, too. imagine [url=https://www.google.com/search?num=50&q=germany+evicting+citizens&oq=germany+evict&gs_l=serp.3.0.0l2j0i22i30k1l3.21627.28088.0.29974.29.23.5.1.2.0.253.2155.1j13j2.16.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..8.19.1620...0i67k1j0i131k1j0i131i67k1j0i10k1j0i22i10i30k1.tF029LB5p-k][b]evicting your own countrymen out of their homes to make room for foreigners.[/b][/url] don't get me started on the money they spent on the shitholes they call camps they made for migrants. fuck me.[/QUOTE] This stackexchange discussion from those search results actually puts some light on that: [url]http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/30339/have-german-citizens-been-evicted-to-make-room-for-refugees[/url]. It's mostly apartment buildings being claimed by municipalities. Here in the Netherlands we mostly build new temporary housing for refugees. [editline]15th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=UK Bohemian;51375298]So it's France and Belgium's economic policy that produces terrorists?[/QUOTE] It's the formula for radicalisation. Young impressionable folk + no economic perspective + bad influences. The only other variant is the mentally-ill loner, which often go by unnoticed by intelligence agencies because they don't coordinate.

Spy agency Ffs wasnt dw 'serious' journalism?

[QUOTE=Clavus;51375313]Even from those countries it's just one in many thousands of peaceful refugees that could be considered a terrorist. There's a reason these people are drowning by the hundreds to cross the Mediterranean. This stackexchange discussion from those search results actually puts some light on that: [url]http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/30339/have-german-citizens-been-evicted-to-make-room-for-refugees[/url]. It's mostly apartment buildings being claimed by municipalities. Here in the Netherlands we mostly build new temporary housing for refugees. [editline]15th November 2016[/editline] It's the formula for radicalisation. Young impressionable folk + no economic perspective + bad influences. The only other variant is the mentally-ill loner, which often go by unnoticed by intelligence agencies because they don't coordinate.[/QUOTE] Regardless, the ideology is the culprit.

[QUOTE=Clavus;51375189]I personally think it's quite commendable that she didn't give into fear, and instead choose to give 10.000 refugees a chance instead of worrying about 1 terrorist. A refugee crisis is a struggle, it doesn't have pretty solutions.[/QUOTE] I feel like leaders have a duty to their people before a bunch of folks suffering a world away. It's unfortunate but we just don't have enough resources to help everyone. Why didn't she spend the economic loss from taking on all those unskilled workers (and housing them) and spend it on bettering her people's standard of living (Homelessness, poverty, substance abuse, crime..... etc) instead of taking on refugees? It would be much cheaper and would carry no risks, and the overall increase of human welfare would be higher.