Attorney-General G. Brandis hints at a return to the White Australia Policy through Amendment of the - Polidicks

[B]George Brandis defends 'right to be a bigot' amid Government plan to amend Racial Discrimination Act[/B] [QUOTE]Attorney-General George Brandis has defended the Government's plan to amend a key part of the nation's racial discrimination laws, saying people have "a right to be bigots". The Abbott Government has promised to amend the Racial Discrimination Act by repealing section 18C, which makes it unlawful for someone to publicly "offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate" a person or a group of people. Senator Brandis says he will "very soon" bring forward an amendment to the act "which will ensure that can never happen in Australia again".Prime Minister Tony Abbott did not repeat the phrase but said Australia's democracy and freedom depended on free speech. [QUOTE]"Of course this Government is determined to try to ensure that Australia remains a free and fair and tolerant society, where bigotry and racism has no place,"[/QUOTE] Mr Abbott said.[/QUOTE] sources: [URL]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-24/brandis-defends-right-to-be-a-bigot/5341552[/URL] [URL]http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/attorneygeneral-george-brandis-people-do-have-a-right-to-be-bigots-20140324-35dj3.html[/URL] This may just be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Honestly though, this will have major setbacks for the Federal Government and Australia as a whole if it is passed. Especially when we are neighbours to countries where a majority of their populations aren't white. It will damage the country's image as being a 'multicultural' nation and may have severe consequences for all aspects of life for everyone.

WHAT. Excuse me, i seriously just spat out my drink.

What is going on here, they make it illegal to protest in Melbourne, then complain about freedom of speech?

[QUOTE=DienDwemar;44337855]What is going on here, they make it illegal to protest in Melbourne, then complain about freedom of speech?[/QUOTE] Brandis is hoping to move a bill through the senate which could allow anyone to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person regardless of what differences they have.

With free speech it's all or none. I for one support this move.

Whilst yes the removal of the section and what AG Brandis said are both rediculous, what's more absurd is the title of this thread. White Australia policy was basically genocide. Whilst words can certainly result in physical and mental harm due to long term mental health issues (which is why the section is important), they're not gonna be genocide-invoking. So I declare (for all the value my declaration holds) this to be a very sensationalist headline. [editline]24th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Azarath;44337883]With free speech it's all or none. I for one support this move.[/QUOTE] Australians don't even have explicit freedom of speech, it's only implied, so by your logic, we don't really have any freedom of speech at all in Australia.

I agree about freedom of speech should have no limits but it gives you right to be a bigot? Fuck off And if anyone dared passing an act that was similar or even alike to White Australia, they'd die

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44337903]I agree about freedom of speech should have no limits but it gives you right to be a bigot? Fuck off And if anyone dared passing an act that was similar or even alike to White Australia, they'd die[/QUOTE] Political Suicide, even.

[QUOTE=gerbe1;44337889] Australians don't even have explicit freedom of speech, it's only implied, so by your logic, we don't really have any freedom of speech at all in Australia.[/QUOTE] What are you trying to get at here exactly? I know we don't have freedom of speech, that is why I support this. Anyone who wants to limit free speech because someone might get their feelings hurt can move to another country. The LNP actually cares about citizens rights and this passing will just be one more step on our long march to freedom. After this I hope they loosen gun laws, because at the moment they are ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Azarath;44337883]With free speech it's all or none. I for one support this move.[/QUOTE] So you'd like to see the consequences of losing billions in export, large amounts of foreign clientele, business contracts due to the fact that you could be publicly humiliated because you are different (regardless of what you may different for) and couldn't do a thing about it? Not all people were raised in australia (or the aussie way) mate Seriously, it's like you want things such as the Cronulla riots and Blacktown to happen all over again

[QUOTE=Azarath;44337883]With free speech it's all or none. I for one support this move.[/QUOTE] This isn't about free speech in anyway. What this is really about is getting their friend [URL="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-28/bolt-found-guilty-of-breaching-discrimination-act/3025918"]Andrew Bolt, who was found to have broken this law twice three years ago[/URL] out of trouble. This is also paving the way for anyone to say anything about anyone without getting in trouble. Prejudiced intolerance was banned and now we are letting it back in again, if this law gets in. EDIT: [QUOTE=Azarath;44337911]What are you trying to get at here exactly? I know we don't have freedom of speech, that is why I support this. Anyone who wants to limit free speech because someone might get their feelings hurt can move to another country. The LNP actually cares about citizens rights and this passing will just be [B][U]one more step on our long march to freedom.[/U][/B] After this I hope they loosen gun laws, because at the moment they are ridiculous.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry; what will we be free from? Free from oppression over oppressing the oppressed? Free from any punishment for racism? Freedom for only a select few? We put laws like this in for reasons like this. For people like [I]you.[/I]

[QUOTE=gerbe1;44337889] White Australia policy was basically genocide. [/QUOTE] Haha holy shit. Just, Holy Shit.

[QUOTE=Azarath;44337911]What are you trying to get at here exactly? I know we don't have freedom of speech, that is why I support this. Anyone who wants to limit free speech because someone might get their feelings hurt can move to another country. The LNP actually cares about citizens rights and this passing will just be one more step on our long march to freedom. After this I hope they loosen gun laws, because at the moment they are ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Long march to freedom, wat Citizens rights? More like conservative majority rights and fucking off everyone else

Kevin Rudd isn't looking so bad now is he?

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;44337919] This is also paving the way for anyone to say anything about anyone without getting in trouble. Prejudiced intolerance was banned and now we are letting it back in again, if this law gets in. [/QUOTE] Good. Free speech is needed in this country. [QUOTE=FlandersNed;44337919] I'm sorry; what will we be free from? Free from oppression over oppressing the oppressed? Free from any punishment for racism? Freedom for only a select few? We put laws like this in for reasons like this.[/QUOTE] Oppression? Hahah what? You must be kidding, no one in this country is oppressed by anyone. Freespeech is for everyone buddy. Do you think just because someone doesn't have European heritage they won't have free speech? Perhaps you want it that way. But I'm sorry to say, if the LNP gets its way, we will being seeing blanket free speech for all, and no human rights supporter can possibly be against this. [QUOTE=shutter_eye5;44337924]Long march to freedom, wat Citizens rights? More like conservative majority rights and fucking off everyone else[/QUOTE] As said above, free speech is for everyone as much as you close your eyes, block your ears and shout otherwise. Yes even people who aren't of European heritage will have it.

[QUOTE=reevezy67;44337937]Kevin Rudd isn't looking so bad now is he?[/QUOTE] Only reason Tony won was because that cunt Murdouch kept sucking his cock and it was evident in all his newspapers Let's reflect over this for a brief moment [img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4872546-3x4-700x933.jpg[/img] [IMG]http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ScreenHunter_27-Sep.-02-14.40.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ScreenHunter_23-Aug.-08-09.18.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3S2GjU8nzaU/UhTpflqR1XI/AAAAAAAAILg/3aap-NzqxPg/s1600/CourierMailFrontPageDoesThisGuyEverShutUp.jpg[/IMG]

[QUOTE=reevezy67;44337937]Kevin Rudd isn't looking so bad now is he?[/QUOTE] Let's not forget the mining magnate-turned-senator Clive Palmer, with his 'Palmer Parma' and dinosaur-themed resort in Coolum

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44337953]Only reason Tony won was because that cunt Murdouch kept sucking his cock and it was evident in all his newspapers Let's reflect over this for a brief moment [/QUOTE] Yeah there was a petition against them over the media bias, it didn't get anywhere. It's a shame they own the majority of the media. Tony Abbot even made a public announcement saying the ABC was "Against Australia".

[QUOTE=Azarath;44337911]What are you trying to get at here exactly? I know we don't have freedom of speech, that is why I support this. Anyone who wants to limit free speech because someone might get their feelings hurt can move to another country. The LNP actually cares about citizens rights and this passing will just be one more step on our long march to freedom. After this I hope they loosen gun laws, because at the moment they are ridiculous.[/QUOTE] With all due respect, you are a colossal fuckwit.

[QUOTE=Azarath;44337952]Good. Free speech is needed in this country. Oppression? Hahah what? You must be kidding, no one in this country is oppressed by anyone. Freespeech is for everyone buddy. Do you think just because someone doesn't have European heritage they won't have free speech? Perhaps you want it that way. But I'm sorry to say, if the LNP gets its way, we will being seeing blanket free speech for all, and no human rights supporter can possibly be against this. As said above, free speech is for everyone as much as you close your eyes, block your ears and shout otherwise. Yes even people who aren't of European heritage will have it.[/QUOTE] Firstly, don't we have free speech already? Why do we suddenly need the right to be RACIST? Secondly, I'm sure that many asylum seekers would like to contest you that point on being opressed. Sure, it's nothing like the Holocaust, but I have a feeling it's not all sunshine and roses at Manus Island. Finally, there's a difference between the right to free speech and the right to [B]offend, insult, humiliate and intimidate people [U]without any consequences![/B][/U] How would you feel if someone did that to you? You'd feel pretty pissed off, yeah? Well, too bad - the new laws would have just made it legal and you would not be able to do a single thing.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44337953]Only reason Tony won was because that cunt Murdouch kept sucking his cock and it was evident in all his newspapers Let's reflect over this for a brief moment [img]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/4872546-3x4-700x933.jpg[/img] [IMG]http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/ScreenHunter_27-Sep.-02-14.40.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ScreenHunter_23-Aug.-08-09.18.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3S2GjU8nzaU/UhTpflqR1XI/AAAAAAAAILg/3aap-NzqxPg/s1600/CourierMailFrontPageDoesThisGuyEverShutUp.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Personally, I think Murdoch should be barred from operating any media in Australia. (as pointed out a few weeks ago by Sen. Scott Ludlam (excuse my use of the greens): [video=youtube;dtqrfiEV8Gs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtqrfiEV8Gs[/video]

[QUOTE=reevezy67;44337971]Yeah there was a petition against them over the media bias, it didn't get anywhere. It's a shame they own the majority of the media. Tony Abbot even made a public announcement saying the ABC was "Against Australia".[/QUOTE] It's been said time and time again in most ABC and SBS related news topics, they're the last remaining areas to get non-bias, 100% news from without any corporation trying to cushion the blow It's a real threat while the libs are in government, they won't directly priviatise them, that'd be too obvious, you just slice their budget down until they get weaker and weaker and that's what I really fear they'll do to those two networks

Andrew Bolt's going to be so smug about vilifying aboriginals now isn't he?

[QUOTE=Azarath;44337920]Haha holy shit. Just, Holy Shit.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://reconciliaction.org.au/nsw/education-kit/stolen-generations/"]White Australia policy includes assimilation policies undertaken to encourage "people who were ‘not of full blood’ ... to become assimilated into the broader society so that eventually there would be no more Indigenous people left."[/URL] From the same link: "The aim of the policy was to ‘breed out’ the Aboriginal race. In international law practices designed to destroy an entire race of people are known as genocide, and are forbidden under the 1948 Convention of Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide." So when I use the basically provision, I refer to the fact that the policy went hand in hand with the assimilation policies from the stolen generation.

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;44337979]Firstly, don't we have free speech already? Why do we suddenly need the right to be RACIST? Secondly, I'm sure that many asylum seekers would like to contest you that point on being opressed. Sure, it's nothing like the Holocaust, but I have a feeling it's not all sunshine and roses at Manus Island.[/QUOTE] And I have a feeling that if you want to come to a country with no identification or history you can expect to be processed because we want to know who we are letting in and that they will not cause trouble, like they often do. Our utmost priority is protecting the citizens of Australia. [QUOTE=FlandersNed;44337979] Finally, there's a difference between the right to free speech and the right to [B]offend, insult, humiliate and intimidate people [U]without any consequences![/B][/U][/QUOTE] No there isn't [QUOTE=FlandersNed;44337979] How would you feel if someone did that to you? You'd feel pretty pissed off, yeah? Well, too bad - the new laws would have just made it legal and you would not be able to do a single thing.[/QUOTE] I'm a grown up and have emotional control over myself. Somone getting upset doesn't mean anything. Are we going to start making all women wear burkas now because it makes some people mad? I hope not.

If they're going to legalize discrimination on the basis of free speech, they need to legalize other legislation that suppresses the public, they look like massive hypocrites right now, I was under the impression Australia did not have free speech, yet liberal politicians seem to use this as a basis for their argument in parliament. But what a sensationalist title, fuck. And pretty sure the liberals didn't get voted in, it was more of labor getting kicked out, it seemed like a protest vote than anything. We voted out a shit party in order to get... another shit party. TBH the current mob of criminals seems better than Bill Shorten IMO. Kevin was a much better alternative.

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;44337979]How would you feel if someone did that to you? You'd feel pretty pissed off, yeah? Well, too bad - the new laws would have just made it legal and you would not be able to do a single thing.[/QUOTE] Now imagine you aren't a young, white male and aren't rich enough to have regular access to the internet. Suddenly this kind of thing is that extra little bit on top to drive someone without depression to it and someone with it to suicide.

[QUOTE=Azarath;44337952]Good. Free speech is needed in this country. [/QUOTE] This isn't America. There is no place for discrimination, it's still legal to say whatever you like but not in public to offend someone. Verbal abuse can be as bad as physical abuse, if this is removed then you might as well make it legal to walk up to someone and punch them in the face.

[QUOTE=gerbe1;44338017][URL="http://reconciliaction.org.au/nsw/education-kit/stolen-generations/"]White Australia policy includes assimilation policies undertaken to encourage "people who were ‘not of full blood’ ... to become assimilated into the broader society so that eventually there would be no more Indigenous people left."[/URL] From the same link: "The aim of the policy was to ‘breed out’ the Aboriginal race. In international law practices designed to destroy an entire race of people are known as genocide, and are forbidden under the 1948 Convention of Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide." So when I use the basically provision, I refer to the fact that the policy went hand in hand with the assimilation policies from the stolen generation.[/QUOTE] Sounds like multiculturalism to me. Why didn't these bigoted aboriginals support their diversifying? [editline]24th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=reevezy67;44338032] If this is removed then you might as well make it legal to walk up to someone and punch them in the face.[/QUOTE] Haha wow.

[QUOTE=Azarath;44338034]Sounds like multiculturalism to me. Why didn't these bigoted aboriginals support their diversifying?[/QUOTE] Please take a long walk off a short pier