We won’t know what’s in the Republican health-care repeal plan until they pass it - Polidicks

[quote]Public opinion about the Affordable Care Act is consistently favorable and on an upswing. Faced with the prospect of repeal, crowds of constituents are confronting lawmakers across the country to express their anguish in town halls. But still, Republicans are rushing to rip apart the health insurance coverage that millions of people depend on. That rush is a particularly bitter irony for anyone who, like me, worked on writing the ACA originally. Republicans accused Democrats eight years ago of drafting the health-care law in secret, despite dozens of public hearings and work sessions. But now it’s their own process that is highly secretive, with U.S. Capitol Police guarding a basement room where the draft legislation is kept hidden from voters, the news media and even members of Congress. The GOP tried to use one quote in particular to drive its message back then. In 2010, then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said that “we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.” What Pelosi meant was that people would realize the benefits of the law once they became tangible — which is exactly what polling shows has happened. But Republicans spun and truncated the quote to suggest that Democrats were hiding something.[/quote] SOURCE: [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/03/we-wont-know-whats-in-the-republican-health-care-repeal-plan-until-they-pass-it/?hpid=hp_regional-hp-cards_rhp-posteverything%3Ahomepage%2Fcard&utm_term=.33ec10b3fd82[/url] This twitter thread basically tells all why this is such bullshit on the GOP's part. [media]https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/837647169448468482[/media]

I feel like I'm in a episode of Veep

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51909991]I feel like I'm in a episode of Veep[/QUOTE] And I feel like I'm in a south park episode. Please let me die

Spoiler: It's gonna be trash because they're not willing to do any of the things that actually work.

Good thing it won't be passed, since any replacement plan they'd pass would need to go through a traditional vote in the Senate, and they'd need to pick up eight Democratic Senator's votes to avoid a filibuster.

best-case scenario, they pass an exact copy of obamacare in its current state with some incredibly minor changes, call it "trumpcare" and pretend they did some great thing

[QUOTE=Judas;51910517]best-case scenario, they pass an exact copy of obamacare in its current state with some incredibly minor changes, call it "trumpcare" and pretend they did some great thing[/QUOTE] Considering some people think there is a difference between Obamacare and ACA, they could only change the nickname and people would celebrate them.

[QUOTE=Judas;51910517]best-case scenario, they pass an exact copy of obamacare in its current state with some incredibly minor changes, call it "trumpcare" and pretend they did some great thing[/QUOTE] The Extra-affordable Super-care Act.

The sad part is that there are a lot of Republican voters whose lives depend on the ACA.

[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;51910933]The sad part is that there are a lot of Republican voters whose lives depend on the ACA.[/QUOTE] Maybe if they live long enough, they'll vote Democrat next time. No teacher quite like experience, right?

they ain't gonna replace it with anything, lol. why do you think they're avoiding town halls like cowards.

[QUOTE=Judas;51910517]best-case scenario, they pass an exact copy of obamacare in its current state with some incredibly minor changes, call it "trumpcare" and pretend they did some great thing[/QUOTE] it'll probably be something with the word "freedom" in it, like "Health Care Freedom Act" or some shit

[QUOTE=lxmach1;51911072]it'll probably be something with the word "freedom" in it, like "Health Care Freedom Act" or some shit[/QUOTE] "The Freedom To Exercise Man's God-Given Right To Die Of Congenital Pancreatic Disease Act"

[QUOTE=Maegord;51910480]Good thing it won't be passed, since any replacement plan they'd pass would need to go through a traditional vote in the Senate, and they'd need to pick up eight Democratic Senator's votes to avoid a filibuster.[/QUOTE] I've always wondered, what's the legality of pulling out a 3DS or your phone during a filibuster? As a senator, I'd rather be playing Metal Gear Solid 3DS than listening to someone reading Dr. Seuss if they insist on wasting hours of my time to try and fuck over America.

[QUOTE=gk99;51911099]I've always wondered, what's the legality of pulling out a 3DS or your phone during a filibuster? As a senator, I'd rather be playing Metal Gear Solid 3DS than listening to someone reading Dr. Seuss if they insist on wasting hours of my time to try and fuck over America.[/QUOTE] Generally speaking, they don't want you doing that.

[QUOTE=Judas;51910517]best-case scenario, they pass an exact copy of obamacare in its current state with some incredibly minor changes, call it "trumpcare" and pretend they did some great thing[/QUOTE] The Best Care, Trust Me, Really, The Best Care Act.

I wonder how many republican politicians are Christian Scientists who refuse medication or treatment in any capacity Knowing how batshit most of them are it really wouldn't surprise me if a few are purposely sabotaging healthcare for insane religious reasons, as they do with most other things anyway

The analysis in the part quoted in the OP seems to tally misunderstand the Republican attack on Pelosi's statement. They weren't saying that it was made in secret so that no one knew what was in it. They were saying that it was so incredibly massive and yet being pushed through so quickly, that no one had time to even know what was in it.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51913895]The analysis in the part quoted in the OP seems to tally misunderstand the Republican attack on Pelosi's statement. They weren't saying that it was made in secret so that no one knew what was in it. They were saying that it was so incredibly massive and yet being pushed through so quickly, that no one had time to even know what was in it.[/QUOTE] So... exactly like they're doing with their repeal and replacement? Still hypocrisy dude. Although, I suppose something large and well-thought out IS a bit of a stretch where Republicans are concerned. Probably be a bit like Theresa May's Brexit Whitepaper in its original state. A paragraph of brainless dribble.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51913895]The analysis in the part quoted in the OP seems to tally misunderstand the Republican attack on Pelosi's statement. They weren't saying that it was made in secret so that no one knew what was in it. They were saying that it was so incredibly massive and yet being pushed through so quickly, that no one had time to even know what was in it.[/QUOTE] Regardless of whatever issues may have existed with the drafting and implementation of the ACA, the fact that the Republican plan to "repeal and replace" it is completely confidential to the public is a bit concerning. Tens of millions of people stand to lose their coverage, and rightfully want to know what the hell is happening with that, and yet the Republican response is complete silence. We can't even get answers on the bare basics of what we're going to see. Will pre-existing conditions still be guaranteed coverage? Will people still be able to stay on family plans until the age of 26? The GOP won't answer any questions, they're not attending town halls, they're not responding to emails, they're not taking calls -- the people are being totally shut out of this process. The draft is literally kept behind a locked door. It's extremely hypocritical to complain about the Democrats' drafting and implementation of the ACA, only to turn around and be [I]even shadier[/I] about your replacement plan lol.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51913944]Regardless of whatever issues may have existed with the drafting and implementation of the ACA, the fact that the Republican plan to "repeal and replace" it is completely confidential to the public is a bit concerning. Tens of millions of people stand to lose their coverage, and rightfully want to know what the hell is happening with that, and yet the Republican response is complete silence. We can't even get answers on the bare basics of what we're going to see. Will pre-existing conditions still be guaranteed coverage? Will people still be able to stay on family plans until the age of 26? The GOP won't answer any questions, they're not attending town halls, they're not responding to emails, they're not taking calls -- the people are being totally shut out of this process. The draft is literally kept behind a locked door. It's extremely hypocritical to complain about the Democrats' drafting and implementation of the ACA, only to turn around and be [I]even shadier[/I] about your replacement plan lol.[/QUOTE] If they bring it to the floor and push it through without giving people time to read and discuss it, then I'll be right there along side you criticizing them.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51914232]If they bring it to the floor and push it through without giving people time to read and discuss it, then I'll be right there along side you criticizing them.[/QUOTE] What if they hide it in a room and refuse to allow members of congress, the press or even their own party to see it? [editline]4th March 2017[/editline] [media]https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/status/837346656395874306[/media]

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51914254]What if they hide it in a room and refuse to allow members of congress, the press or even their own party to see it? [editline]4th March 2017[/editline] [media]https://twitter.com/sarahkliff/status/837346656395874306[/media][/QUOTE] Firstly, I don't get news from twitter. Secondly, as long as they release it and let people read it before voting, I don't really care.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51914317]Firstly, I don't get news from twitter.[/QUOTE] I'm surprised; the commander in Cheeto sure as hell does.

[QUOTE=TFA;51914623]I'm surprised; the commander in Cheeto sure as hell does.[/QUOTE] You say that as if I like Trump. Hint: I don't.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51914232]If they bring it to the floor and push it through without giving people time to read and discuss it, then I'll be right there along side you criticizing them.[/QUOTE] Fair enough.