Democrats Outraged That Bush Spied on Them Don't Mind That Obama's Doing the Same Thing - Polidicks

[QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.opednews.com/populum/uploaded/george-bush-looking-14816-20101204-14.jpg[/IMG] Today, 62 percent of Americans say investigating terrorism is more important than maintaining personal privacy; 34 percent disagree. In January 2006, just after news broke of the Bush administration’s NSA surveillance program, 65 percent of Americans said that terrorism justified the intrusion into privacy, and just 32 percent disagreed. Not much difference, right? In fact, there’s been a dramatic change—you just have to look beyond the headline numbers to see it. What’s shifted are the political affiliations of who supports and opposes the surveillance program. [B]When Bush was president, Republicans supported the program by a three-to-one margin (75 percent) and Democrats were nearly as strong in their opposition (61 percent).[/B] A similar partisan breakdown existed on the question of e-mail monitoring: Most Republicans (53 to 38 percent) thought it should be allowed; most Democrats (51 to 41 percent) thought it should be forbidden. Flash forward to today and a Democratic president. [B]Now Republicans are essentially split on the acceptability of NSA surveillance (52 percent favor it; 47 percent oppose it), while a strong majority of Democrats (64 percent) supports the program.[/B] The two parties—but Democrats especially—have changed position. On the issue of e-mail monitoring, the partisan flip-flop is clearer still: Republicans favored it under Bush, but oppose it under Obama; Democrats opposed it under Bush, but favor it under Obama. [url]http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-06-11/democrats-outraged-that-bush-spied-on-them-dont-mind-that-obamas-doing-the-same-thing#r=pol-s[/url] [/QUOTE] The majority of people in the United States don't seem to have their own opinions. It seems like they just support their teams with near blind loyalty.

A right wing article on a liberal forum? Prepare yourself for the ratings.

the only difference between a democrat president and a republican president is the empty promises they make

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;41017467]No matter who you vote for, a politician will still end up in power.[/QUOTE] Not if you voted for [B]RON PAULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL[/B]

[QUOTE=butre;41017460]the only difference between a democrat president and a republican president is the empty promises they make[/QUOTE] That and the promises they keep are going to be ones that make people fucking PISSED. Not everyone, but enough people to poison that party's chance at getting someone in the Whitehouse until the other party has had their 2 terms.

[QUOTE=W00tbeer1;41017457]A right wing article on a liberal forum? Prepare yourself for the ratings.[/QUOTE] Its not infowars, Fox news or some nationalist news source so I really don't see much of a problem.

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;41017467]No matter who you vote for, a politician will still end up in power.[/QUOTE] Yes, but a politician is not some alien race of human being. At the end of the day they are still people.

Well you have to keep in mind between the initial bush survey and the current day the tea party movement has sprung up and you've seen the republican party torching itself and simply going straight down to civil liberties civil liberties etc, which means... a lot of things, depending on who you ask. This'd be an extension of that. It's hardcore conservatism whipping around to libertarianism.

[QUOTE=scout1;41017511]Well you have to keep in mind between the initial bush survey and the current day the tea party movement has sprung up and you've seen the republican party torching itself and simply going straight down to civil liberties civil liberties etc, which means... a lot of things, depending on who you ask. This'd be an extension of that. It's hardcore conservatism whipping around to libertarianism.[/QUOTE] Labels limit politics

Wait a second, only 47% of republicans oppose something Obama is doing? Obama could propose hookers and blow for everyone in senate, and republicans would still be against it!

[QUOTE=ThisIsTheOne;41017471]Not if you voted for [B]RON PAULLLLLLLLLLLLLLL[/B][/QUOTE] Very strange way of saying "literally throwing the voting machine into the trash can and not voting at all"

[QUOTE=Riller;41017531]Wait a second, only 47% of republicans oppose something Obama is doing? Obama could propose hookers and blow for everyone in senate, and republicans would still be against it![/QUOTE] Republicans seem to support Obama when his government is taking away American liberties.

[QUOTE=Megafan;41017504]Yes, but a politician is not some alien race of human being. At the end of the day they are still people.[/QUOTE] lmao look at this scrub, he's unaware of the reptilians!

[QUOTE=Megafan;41017504]Yes, but a politician is not some alien race of human being. At the end of the day they are still people.[/QUOTE] But they're not on the same level as everyone else. They're 'above' everyone else, and they know it. They act more like they're members of an old timey ruling class than elected representatives, they're extremely out of touch with what most Americans are feeling. Nomatter who you vote for, they have either their party's best interests in mind, or their own, but not yours.

[QUOTE]Republicans favored it under Bush, but oppose it under Obama[/QUOTE] Sensationalist headlines indeed. But yes, politics in America (and likely to some extent in other countries) is a bit of a team sport more than anything else. It isn't helped by our media where Fox News is a cheerleader for the right and MSNBC is a cheerleader for the left (only far less so and far less damaging) and "balanced" sources like CNN are just lazy and sensationalist garbage.

And BBC is foreign commie garbage and Al Jazeera is terrorist propaganda.

RT is the foreign commie garbage, BBC is British propaganda to try and win America back and turn us into a mercantile colony again. I see your game you tea-drinkers.

[QUOTE=Trogdon;41017528]Labels limit politics[/QUOTE] Labels are politics [editline]13th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;41017974]And BBC is foreign commie garbage and Al Jazeera is terrorist propaganda.[/QUOTE] well the bbc is objectively terrible

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