NSW bushfire victims denied compensation under new rules - Polidicks

[img]http://images.smh.com.au/2013/10/26/4862819/art-bushfires3-620x349.jpg[/img] [QUOTE]Blue Mountains residents who had to flee their houses and then returned home to be faced with no gas, electricity or hot water for days have slammed the Federal Government's changes to disaster relief payments. The day after bushfires tore through the area, the federal government tightened the rules for disaster payments leaving hundreds of residents who were forced to evacuate without any financial help. Eligibility for payments, available in disasters such as the January Tasmanian fires, were changed on October 18, so residents who did not lose their homes but had to relocate for days at a time would not receive assistance. ... Under the previous rules, residents who were injured or killed, lost their house, had to leave their home for 24 hours or were without a utility for 48 hours received a one-off payment of $1000 for an adult and $400 for a child. But the day after the bushfires started, the Justice Minister Michael Keenan signed a new determination which only applied to people who were seriously injured, killed or had their homes destroyed or severely damaged by the fires. Labor senator Doug Cameron, who lives in the Blue Mountains, said the changes were ''penny pinching and cost cutting gone mad'' at a time when hundreds of families urgently needed help.[/QUOTE] Read more: [URL]http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/nsw-bushfire-victims-denied-compensation-under-new-rules-20131026-2w80f.html#ixzz2ipIpTxZu[/URL]

Meanwhile Abbott the fuckwit is putting more effort into stopping same-sex marriage act in A.C.T than the bushfires in NSW. My conscious is clean, I didn't vote for this idiot.

Why should it matter? I don't tax payers are going to care that their money is going to relief for the bush fires. This cutting-cost shtick from the LNP is obviously going to hurt us more in the future.

So it doesn't matter if your gas, electricity and water are out because they themselves are fine and their house isn't destroyed thus they don't get any compensation? That's some serious bullshit. [quote]Senator Cameron said one Yellow Rock resident who was a severe asthmatic told him he had been unable to live in his home for a week because of the smoke but would not be eligible for a disaster recovery payment. [/quote] Yeah obviously this guy doesn't need it, his house is fine and he's not injured so he doesn't need any recovery payment.

The liberal party are heartless bastards when they want to be.

someone tell me, why you australians voted for this guy again i mean he not only acts like a dick, he also looks like one and he has one of most punchable faces i've seen in a politician. :v: [IMG]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/21/1226602/056997-tony-abbott.jpg[/IMG] look at this smug bastard

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42650953]someone tell me, why you australians voted for this guy again[/QUOTE] Everybody I know voted for Labor. [b]Everyone.[/b] I guess there's a segment of society completely cut off.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42650953]someone tell me, why you australians voted for this guy again i mean he not only acts like a dick, he also looks like one and he has one of most punchable faces i've seen in a politician. :v: [IMG]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/21/1226602/056997-tony-abbott.jpg[/IMG] look at this smug bastard[/QUOTE] Australian politics in the eyes of Australians: Oh this Prime Minister really fucked us up, we'll vote for the other party literally 2 weeks in OH FUCK WHY DID WE VOTE FOR THIS CLOWN NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 2-3 YEARS

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42650953]someone tell me, why you australians voted for this guy again i mean he not only acts like a dick, he also looks like one and he has one of most punchable faces i've seen in a politician. :v: [IMG]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/21/1226602/056997-tony-abbott.jpg[/IMG] look at this smug bastard[/QUOTE] 'why you australians' is not how we like it to be seen. Although many voted against him, everyone went 'well shit the other guy did a thing bad last time oh deary me vote for the other bloke' without thinking twice that the previous one has straightened himself out.

[QUOTE=Jookia;42650973]Everybody I know voted for Labor. [b]Everyone.[/b] I guess there's a segment of society completely cut off.[/QUOTE] oh i'm not discounting the people who voted against him, i was more asking the facepunchers that voted for him, since there was a SH topic with a lot of australians defending him when he won.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42651002]oh i'm not discounting the people who voted against him, i was more asking the facepunchers that voted for him, since there was a SH topic with a lot of australians defending him when he won.[/QUOTE] I can recall abcpea posted that he was voting for Tony but everyone in that thread iirc was going for Kevin [editline]26th October 2013[/editline] I think Azza was another one, i seriously cant remember

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42651006]I think Azza was another one, i seriously cant remember[/QUOTE] I think Tony is too far left for Azza.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42650953]someone tell me, why you australians voted for this guy again i mean he not only acts like a dick, he also looks like one and he has one of most punchable faces i've seen in a politician. :v: [IMG]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/21/1226602/056997-tony-abbott.jpg[/IMG] look at this smug bastard[/QUOTE] he looks like he gets his hair cut by a sentient lawnmower

God I hope the next elections just destroy the Liberal party.

[QUOTE=mcattack1092;42650919]The liberal party are heartless bastards when they want to be.[/QUOTE]Which is 24/7.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42650953]someone tell me, why you australians voted for this guy again i mean he not only acts like a dick, he also looks like one and he has one of most punchable faces i've seen in a politician. :v: [IMG]http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2013/03/21/1226602/056997-tony-abbott.jpg[/IMG] look at this smug bastard[/QUOTE] I voted for the other guy.

I'm in the US so I don't much about Austrian politics but: Why do you need $1,000 if you had to leave your house for 24 hours AND lost power for 48? The worst you have to do is pay a motel for two nights and you lost all the food in your refrigerator to spoilage. That all adds up to $1k per adult? Goddamn, prices are high over there.

Has the Liberal Party performed a single positive act yet? Are they even poised to do so over the next 3 years? Jeez, this is making me feel grateful for the Tories.

At least he's doing something about the poofs and the darkies

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;42653838] The worst you have to do is pay a motel for two nights and you lost all the food in your refrigerator to spoilage. That all adds up to $1k per adult? Goddamn, prices are high over there.[/QUOTE] They don't always. It might depend on work I guess. It could cover loss of wages, but that would not be applicable to everyone. But I wouldn't have a problem with this if it were an interest free loan (to people who have not lost their house, rather are without utilities) until an insurance payout or something like that. I don't see why someone needs $1000 per night, when their house is still standing and they're sleeping next door because currently the road is blocked.

I'm not sure whose legislation is more fucked at this point, america or australia though at least I suppose us Americans are just good at getting nothing done

[QUOTE=aznz888;42657117]I'm not sure whose legislation is more fucked at this point, america or australia though at least I suppose us Americans are just good at getting nothing done[/QUOTE] With voter ID laws and corporate personhood I'm pretty sure America is winning that competition by a large margin

We were doomed when 6 million people didn't even vote on election day (those who did comprised mostly of conservatives) Back on topic though, this is the biggest kick in the guts for those who've just lose everything and now the federal government is pretty much giving them the finger.

[QUOTE=shutter_eye5;42657880]We were doomed when 6 million people didn't even vote on election day (those who did comprised mostly of conservatives)[/QUOTE] Wut 93.23% of the 14,722,754 enrolled voters, voted. [url]http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseStateFirstPrefsByParty-17496-NAT.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;42653838]I'm in the US so I don't much about [B]Austrian[/B] politics but: Why do you need $1,000 if you had to leave your house for 24 hours AND lost power for 48? The worst you have to do is pay a motel for two nights and you lost all the food in your refrigerator to spoilage. That all adds up to $1k per adult? Goddamn, prices are high over there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DogGunn;42653972]They don't always. It might depend on work I guess. It could cover loss of wages, but that would not be applicable to everyone. But I wouldn't have a problem with this if it were an interest free loan (to people who have not lost their house, rather are without utilities) until an insurance payout or something like that. I don't see why someone needs $1000 per night, when their house is still standing and they're sleeping next door because currently the road is blocked.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's per night, I think it's just the base rate. When we had the floods and were isolated for a week without power, etc. we got the same $1,000. Edit: Yeah, the article says it's a one off payment, without power for 2 days or 8 and it's still only $1,000.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42651002]oh i'm not discounting the people who voted against him, i was more asking the facepunchers that voted for him, since there was a SH topic with a lot of australians defending him when he won.[/QUOTE] I voted labor in both the Senate and House of Representatives. My conscience is clean.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42650976]Australian politics in the eyes of Australians: Oh this Prime Minister really fucked us up, we'll vote for the other party literally 2 weeks in OH FUCK WHY DID WE VOTE FOR THIS CLOWN NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 2-3 YEARS[/QUOTE] Which makes me think why can't Aussies just have a coup.

[QUOTE=shian;42659831]Which makes me think why can't Aussies just have a coup.[/QUOTE] There's no need, if something shitty was passed in Australia that pissed everyone off, everyone would protest in the streets and strike potentially, the government would backpedal because if the Australian people are unhappy, it's up to the Governor General to decide whether to revoke the Prime Ministership from the head of the party elected It happened in the 70's when the government failed to submit some economics thing and everyone was fucked over, the Governor General revoked the Prime Ministership and an election was called

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42650976] literally 2 weeks in OH FUCK WHY DID WE VOTE FOR THIS CLOWN NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 2-3 YEARS[/QUOTE] This is not unique to Australians