Sources: [URL]http://www.wfmynews2.com/news/local/teen-dies-after-contracting-brain-eating-amoeba/252285025[/URL]
[URL]http://www.fgtnews.com/heath/teen-dies-brain-eating-amoeba-infection-visit-u-s-whitewater-center-charlotte/[/URL]
[quote=WFMY News 2]Teen Dies from Amoeba Infection After Visit to Whitewater Center
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Health officials suspect an Ohio teen died after contracting brain-eating amoeba after visiting the U.S. Whitewater Center in Charlotte last week.
18-year-old Lauren Seitz died after contracting the amoeba, and her parents say she did not swim in Columbus during the incubation period; she did, however, come to Charlotte for a trip and visited the Whitewater Center.
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The suspected cause of death was attributed to Primary Amebic Meningoencephalitis, an infection caused by Naegleria fowleri, a one-celled organism that does not cause illness if swallowed, but can be fatal if forced up the nose.
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Naegleria fowleri infections are rare, officials said. According to the CDC, fewer than 10 cases have been reported annually in the United State during the last 53 years. This amoeba can cause severe illness up to nine days after exposure. A person cannot be infected with Naegleria fowleri by drinking contaminated water and the amoeba is not found in salt water.
According to the NC Division of Water Resources, the amoeba itself is common.
"[B]I would bet it's in every lake or river in North Carolina[/B]," Environmental Biologist, Mark Vander Borgh, said.
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Nope. Nope, fuck that.
Don't snort water, got it.
So how do you go about getting rid of this type of thing
Water goes up my nose really easily while swimming. I've always pondered getting one of those thingies that close your nostrils. This might just be the push I needed.
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The sources say "This amoeba can cause severe illness up to nine days after exposure", up to 9 days? 9 days isn't much, what caused this girl to die from it? Did she not get medical assistance?
Well, I wouldn't go about panicking about it, I just thought this was a particularly unlucky event. You're far more likely to be killed by lightning than this bacteria. Though if you do get it, you're fucked - there's a 95% fatality rate.
And people say Australia is a deadly place, we just have spiders and sneaks.
You can't even see that, its like Jaws. Stay out of the water.
House did an Episode on this. My guess is it wasn't properly diagnosed in time. Typically when people get sick they looks for the lowest common denominator, not something that is reported 10 times a year out of 300 million+ people.
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;50571721]So how do you go about getting rid of this type of thing[/QUOTE]
The way to get rid of it isn't any better than having it, I dont quite remember what, but basically your brain ends up swelling so they cover you up in cold blankets I think to try and lower it or decrease the amount it has, and then something involving saline
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if I also remember right, it can only survive in non-salt water areas, so you wont find it out in areas of high salinity, and it also has to be very warm for it to properly develop, and it can develop anywhere in the world.
this shit is like nearly impossible to cure
if you get it, you're basically gonna die
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50571800]House did an Episode on this. My guess is it wasn't properly diagnosed in time. Typically when people get sick they looks for the lowest common denominator, not something that is reported 10 times a year out of 300 million+ people.[/QUOTE]
A diagnosis wouldn't matter because there's no cure
I actually knew this girl personally. I never really talked to her but I knew her name and face at my high school and a bunch of my friends went to her memorial last night. According to my friend who was with her during the trip, he watched her canoe capsize and apparently that's when the bacteria entered her nose. Just think of the fucking odds, man.
From what I gathered from my gf, it's fatal most of the time because it's hardly ever diagnosed/caught in time to do anything about it. But yeah, it's apparently pretty common in non saltwater bodies, and it seems like it's shitty luck when you get it.
fuck i love lakes, just got back from one. hopefully canada is safe
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;50571983]fuck i love lakes, just got back from one. hopefully canada is safe[/QUOTE]
No reported cases ever. Still something to watch for, given climate change.
I am going to have nightmares...
[QUOTE=UncleJimmema;50571800]House did an Episode on this. My guess is it wasn't properly diagnosed in time. Typically when people get sick they looks for the lowest common denominator, not something that is reported 10 times a year out of 300 million+ people.[/QUOTE]It can run asymptomatic for like a week. Really it only shows any symptoms when it is absolutely too late to be treated. The earliest symptoms are like nose bleeds and weird smells and it progresses rapidly from there.
It very quickly turns in to seizures as it starts to consume the frontal lobe to feed itself. And the medicine used to treat it causes necrosis. So if it gets to the brain, the treatment itself can kill you. If somehow they catch it before it hits the brain, it can be saved, but usually by the time anyone notices it, its already there.
This is seriously one of my biggest fears, and I'm a hypochondriac so I stopped going swimming pretty much exclusively. It also made me terrified of showers, being really cautious to not get water up my nose. It requires water to get very deep, more than swimming or showering can do really except unless you're trying and under rare circumstances. Basically you have to use a neti-pot to be consistent on any level. But it terrifies me endlessly. Like I got water up my nose while showering a few hours ago and the hypochondria kicked in immediately and it was awful. I've gotten better about suppressing it, but its still nerve wracking.
the state of overreaction in this thread is insane
think about how many millions of people swim in freshwater every year versus how many have died
[QUOTE=Kommodore;50572307]the state of overreaction in this thread is insane
think about how many millions of people swim in freshwater every year versus how many have died[/QUOTE]Now imagine being consciously aware of the absurdity of the fear but utterly unable to truly control it. Its an awful feeling being so afraid of things that basically will never happen, but so paranoid about them that they impact your behavior.
It only puts me in fear on this disease, because it isn't curable.
If it was a curable disease, I wouldn't mind it.
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;50571725]Water goes up my nose really easily while swimming. I've always pondered getting one of those thingies that close your nostrils. This might just be the push I needed.
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The sources say "This amoeba can cause severe illness up to nine days after exposure", up to 9 days? 9 days isn't much, what caused this girl to die from it? Did she not get medical assistance?[/QUOTE]
There might not have been much medical assistance could've down for her anyway
I'm probably wrong but a lot of medications can't pass the blood-brain barrier and that might include antibiotics
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Oh or as the dude above me said, it's apparently not curable
[QUOTE=Kommodore;50572307]think about how many millions of people swim in freshwater every year versus how many have died[/QUOTE]
I had the same mentality until I damaged my hearing at a concert, whereas none of my friends had any problems. Now I have tinnitus and occasional ear aches. You think it won't happen to you, but it can.
Aw man I was just swimming in Columbus this weekend. Hopefully it really is from NC. I wouldn't doubt that there is something in the Scioto River though, it is dirty as fuck.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;50572654]I had the same mentality until I damaged my hearing at a concert, whereas none of my friends had any problems. Now I have tinnitus and occasional ear aches. You think it won't happen to you, but it can.[/QUOTE]
i'd say the risk of damaging your hearing at a gig is higher than getting a fucking brain eating amoeba inside your head
[QUOTE=skatehawk11;50571706]Having your brain being eaten by a parasite would be a horrible way to go. This is why I never swim in lakes or rivers plus the hundreds of other bad things in it and leeches.[/QUOTE]
" fewer than 10 cases have been reported annually "
Are you also not taking the bike, the car, planes, not stepping up ladders, never touching human beings ?
[QUOTE=Saturn V;50572754]i'd say the risk of damaging your hearing at a gig is higher than getting a fucking brain eating amoeba inside your head[/QUOTE]
Drastically so, the risk is close to 1 in 10 million. You're more likely to be killed by Mad Cow, if you want a rare disease to be worried about. Also other human beings, and cars.
[quote=NPR]
Source: [URL]http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2011/08/19/139781956/hold-your-nose-to-avoid-brain-eating-amoebas?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/URL]
William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert who heads the department of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical School:
"The bug doesn't want to [infect humans]. It lives in nature; it does not wish to live in us. You have to get them jammed up into the nose. The exact route from the nasal cavity to the brain is not certain, though we think with these amoebas, they crawl along the nerves.
Infection with Naegleria fowleri is very rare. The risk is about 1 in 10 million.
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But let me restate: The risk is very, very low. We don't want to have people not go swimming because of this."[/quote]
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;50571725]Water goes up my nose really easily while swimming. I've always pondered getting one of those thingies that close your nostrils. This might just be the push I needed.
[editline]23rd June 2016[/editline]
The sources say "This amoeba can cause severe illness up to nine days after exposure", up to 9 days? 9 days isn't much, what caused this girl to die from it? Did she not get medical assistance?[/QUOTE]
Survival rate with immediate medical assistance is below 1%.
A tad higher if you include new ways to combat it devised in 2013.
(Wikipedia)
I literally told a story about this in another thread a few days ago and then this happens?
Copypasta'd from the other thread
[QUOTE=mini me;50545276]Yeah my ex was a carer and we were supposed to meet one day but she got called on a job
Invited me for a ride along so i accepted
Her patient was a 15 yo girl who apparently "contracted some weird disease on holiday when she was six"
after an hour or so her symptoms and the stories my ex was telling me reminded me of the story of the brain bacteria so i mentioned it and florida
My ex eyes widened and said she was in florida when it happened
I asked if it was clean water and she said no she was in a river
We both went quiet and stared at the girl who sat there oblivious before asking if we could go to mcdonalds ..which was her one and only interest(we were literally sitting in mcdonalds ..she didnt remember walking through the door)
Turns out it's a miracle for kids to survive the infection but she survived it twice ..hence why she got so badly fucked by it.
I heard it travels down the optic nerve or through your nasal cavity? it literally physically destroys the brain not block pathways or short out a few circuits as is usually the case.[/QUOTE]
Its shit like this that makes me want to take the medical equivalent to a flamethrower on any body of water that has it.
[QUOTE=Dirf;50571927]I actually knew this girl personally. I never really talked to her but I knew her name and face at my high school and a bunch of my friends went to her memorial last night. According to my friend who was with her during the trip, he watched her canoe capsize and apparently that's when the bacteria entered her nose. Just think of the fucking odds, man.[/QUOTE]
no you didnt
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This isn't actually anything new, AFAIK. There was a lake behind my dad's old house here in South Florida, in a residential neighborhood, that had claimed multiple lives already from flesh-eating bacteria.
That is, over the course of a very long time.
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