• Chelsea Manning has been missing for six days
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[media]https://twitter.com/SaveManning/status/785553759900344320[/media] @SaveManning, the official Twitter account of [URL="https://www.chelseamanning.org/"]chelseamanning.org[/URL], Manning's legal/support team, reports that she has missed repeated scheduled calls and has not been heard from in six days. Manning previously attempted suicide in July, and [URL="http://time.com/4505639/chelsea-manning-transgender-solitary-confinement/"]was sentenced to two weeks of solitary confinement as punishment[/URL], one week to be served and one week to be held in reserve to be applied as-needed if there were to be further problems. A reminder that Manning can't have just walked out of [I]Fort Leavenworth[/I]. The only sources reporting on this are [URL="https://boingboing.net/2016/10/07/chelsea-manning-is-missing.html"]BoingBoing[/URL] and sites unacceptable to source in SH, and they all point back to the Twitter account anyway.
I think if she somehow escaped a Military Prison, someone would have said something? More likely she's back in solitary, it does say they had another week to use "as needed".
wonder wot happened
No one deserves solitary regardless of their crimes.
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;51186821]No one deserves solitary regardless of their crimes.[/QUOTE] Does that also include serial killers?
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51186953]Does that also include serial killers?[/QUOTE] It's pretty much mental torture. So, yes. Unless they're a threat to other inmates.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51186953]Does that also include serial killers?[/QUOTE] solitary would probably just fuck up a serial killer's mind even worse than it already is
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51186670] Manning previously attempted suicide in July, and [URL="http://time.com/4505639/chelsea-manning-transgender-solitary-confinement/"]was sentenced to two weeks of solitary confinement as punishment[/URL][/QUOTE] Holy shit really? I can't see how that's meant to help at all.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51186953]Does that also include serial killers?[/QUOTE] Even I'd say they don't deserve it. [editline]11th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=vladnag;51186970]Holy shit really? I can't see how that's meant to help at all.[/QUOTE] It makes me think they are either deliberately trying to cause her to commit suicide, or they are setting her up so when she does suicide people won't bat a eye.
[QUOTE=Cructo;51186982]serial killers should be executed tbh[/QUOTE] I'm not surprised you believe that.
[QUOTE=KnightSolaire;51186958]It's pretty much mental torture. So, yes. Unless they're a threat to other inmates.[/QUOTE] But usually solitary for such people are because they are such a big threat to everyone around, hence it is sometimes necessary. I mean I'm all for something more humane, but I don't know how you might want to keep someone extremely dangerous around other people
I mean I fully support the death penalty, and I think solitary is absolutely horrific. Mental torture.
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;51186821]No one deserves solitary regardless of their crimes.[/QUOTE] no one deserves solitary as a treatment for suicidal depression either [editline]11th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Ignhelper;51187043]But usually solitary for such people are because they are such a big threat to everyone around, hence it is sometimes necessary. I mean I'm all for something more humane, but I don't know how you might want to keep someone extremely dangerous around other people[/QUOTE] but thats not solitary thats segregation. solitary is locking someone in an empty room with no windows for weeks on end. many prisons have cellblocks for dangerous criminals that they stick there, its usually the mentally impaired that get tossed into solitary
[QUOTE=Sableye;51187113] but thats not solitary thats segregation. solitary is locking someone in an empty room with no windows for weeks on end. many prisons have cellblocks for dangerous criminals that they stick there, its usually the mentally impaired that get tossed into solitary[/QUOTE] This. Solitary is torture. It's only a few steps from an oubliette.
Hope this doesn't end badly.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51186953]Does that also include serial killers?[/QUOTE] yes, even bankers
It's also done to protect the prisoner from themselves. The rooms are designed so that they can't be used by a prisoner to hurt themselves, unless they slam themselves into the wall head first repeatedly.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51186953]Does that also include serial killers?[/QUOTE] The question you want to ask is: are serial killers entitled to human rights? That'll answer your question. I'm not ok with torturing people, no matter how bad they are, for no reason at all, so my answer is yes.
But wasn't she just about to get her surgery?
Solitary confinement is in the same boat as chinese water torture and waterboarding.
[QUOTE=iggy650;51187719]Solitary confinement is in the same boat as chinese water torture and waterboarding.[/QUOTE] im pretty sure waterboarding and the water torture are probably the same thing and historians just dont have an accurate description [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_water_torture[/url] i mean unlike waterboarding you arent hurting them, just making them wet
[QUOTE=Sableye;51187743]im pretty sure waterboarding and the water torture are probably the same thing and historians just dont have an accurate description [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_water_torture[/url] i mean unlike waterboarding you arent hurting them, just making them wet[/QUOTE] I remember mythbusters doing a special on Chinese water torture and it was pretty horrible. The girl they experimented on eventually burst into tears and described the drips as feeling very heavy and painful after a while.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51187040]I'm not surprised you believe that.[/QUOTE] We're not surprised you disagree, with solitary confinement or for that matter execution. You don't have to take care of them, why does it matter to you if they're treated like every other prisoner regardless of how dangerous they are? You're not at risk of getting hurt or killed by them, other inmates and prison staff are. This is why we should never let people who have no experience with this stuff make decisions about what is and isn't acceptable. Not only are they not qualified and experienced enough to do so, but they also have no stake in the consequences of their decisions. It's easy to make decisions about things you know nothing about and don't actually ever have to deal with yourself lol. Gotta love that armchair fighter mindset.
[QUOTE=Govna;51187968]We're not surprised you disagree, with solitary confinement or for that matter execution. You don't have to take care of them, why does it matter to you if they're treated like every other prisoner regardless of how dangerous they are? You're not at risk of getting hurt or killed by them, other inmates and prison staff are. This is why we should never let people who have no experience with this stuff make decisions about what is and isn't acceptable. Not only are they not qualified and experienced enough to do so, but they also have no stake in the consequences of their decisions. It's easy to make decisions about things you know nothing about and don't actually ever have to deal with yourself lol. Gotta love that armchair fighter mindset.[/QUOTE] boy, you got all of that from me saying 'I'm not surprised you believe that.', huh? looks to me like you just want to start an argument, and i'm not going to give you one. you have no idea what my opinions on the death penalty or solitary confinement are, but you went ahead and assumed them because you're an argumentative person. i've seen your posts, just like i've seen Cructo's. i'm not going to fall for your childish behavior. sorry.
[QUOTE=Govna;51187968]We're not surprised you disagree, with solitary confinement or for that matter execution. You don't have to take care of them, why does it matter to you if they're treated like every other prisoner regardless of how dangerous they are? You're not at risk of getting hurt or killed by them, other inmates and prison staff are. This is why we should never let people who have no experience with this stuff make decisions about what is and isn't acceptable. Not only are they not qualified and experienced enough to do so, but they also have no stake in the consequences of their decisions. It's easy to make decisions about things you know nothing about and don't actually ever have to deal with yourself lol. Gotta love that armchair fighter mindset.[/QUOTE] Please take a few seconds before clicking 'post' to really think about the stupid shit you just typed up
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51186718]I think if she somehow escaped a Military Prison, someone would have said something?[/QUOTE]You would think but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they just kept quiet about it, what [I]I'm[/I] concerned about is something terrible happened and their PR team is wondering how best to break the news. That's mostly my abysmal opinion of the federal government talking though. If that's the case then it's absolutely fucking unacceptable, Manning truly is a motherfucker but once a prisoner is in prison their welfare becomes that prison's responsibility. [QUOTE=The golden;51188345]Hyper-aggressiveness is not a good personality trait to have.[/QUOTE]Uh, that wasn't [I]hyper-aggressive[/I] at all. I'm beginning to wonder if people are actually capable of reading words that disagree with them without breaking down into hysterical sobbing. (by the way, the tone of that sentence was laughing with contempt)
the problem with this post [QUOTE=Anti Christ;51187040]I'm not surprised you believe that.[/QUOTE] is that its completely dismissive yet provides literally no information
[QUOTE=vladnag;51186970]Holy shit really? I can't see how that's meant to help at all.[/QUOTE] Its not meant to help. Military prison is not meant to rehabilitate or change a persons ways, its punishment. Suicide in a military prison is basically an escape attempt, so really she got lucky by only having 2 weeks solitary assigned.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51189805]Its not meant to help. Military prison is not meant to rehabilitate or change a persons ways, its punishment. Suicide in a military prison is basically an escape attempt, so really she got lucky by only having 2 weeks solitary assigned.[/QUOTE] this mindset is disgusting
I wouldn't wish solitary on my worst enemy. A cliche saying, but its true.
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