Some countries try to table another UN resolution to criminalize blasphemy despite large opposition
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[quote]THE divide in world opinion over what constitutes free speech will be on display again this week at the United Nations, where arguments over a proposed blasphemy law were an annual feature for a decade.
This time it is the global reaction to a YouTube video that disparages Islam's prophet Muhammad that is sure to roil the meeting of the UN General Assembly.
Muslim leaders have vowed to discuss the offensive video from their UN platforms, sowing concern among free-speech activists of a fresh push toward an international law that would criminalise blasphemy. Human rights groups and Western democracies resisted such a law for years and thought they had finally quashed the matter after convincing enough nations that repressive regimes used blasphemy laws to imprison or execute dissidents.
''I expect that we'll regress to where we were a couple of years ago,'' said Courtney Radsch, program manager for the Global Freedom of Expression Campaign at the non-profit group Freedom House.
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''Human rights are not about protecting religions; human rights are to protect humans,'' she said. ''Who is going to be the decision-maker on deciding what blasphemy is?''
At one end of the spectrum is France, where a magazine on Wednesday published cartoons of Muhammad as a naked, cowering man to underscore a point that even the most offensive expression should be protected.
At the other end of the spectrum is the UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon, who disappointed many free-speech activists last week by suggesting limitations to freedom of speech when it was ''used to provoke or humiliate''.
For years the Organisation of Islamic Co-operation, a 57-member bloc of countries, has proposed a resolution criminalising the defamation of religion. By last year free-speech proponents had persuaded so many countries to ditch the cause that no new defamation-of-religion resolution was proposed.
Now, Turkey heads the Organisation and the Turkish Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has said he would raise the topic in New York next week.[/quote]
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And it won't be criminalized after all.
I... what? How do you even? Seriously?
Would that mean saying god damn would be illegal because in Christianity it's illegal to use the lord's name in vain?
Oh hell no, this better not be happening, dammit!
Before the shitstorm brews, is this just a motion that got tabled by some special interests coalition then shot down, or is it being seriously considered?
There goes the Simpsons and many other cartoons.
"For years the Organisation of Islamic Co-operation, a 57-member bloc of countries, has proposed a resolution criminalising the defamation of religion. By last year free-speech proponents had persuaded so many countries to ditch the cause that no new defamation-of-religion resolution was proposed."
Ah, so just business as usual.
EDIT: I've really got to stop relying on automerge so much.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;37783437]Before the shitstorm brews, is this just a motion that got tabled by some special interests coalition then shot down, or is it being seriously considered?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it's been proposed before, and failed; doubt anything will be different this time.
Still stupid as fuck though.
Blasphemy and Freedom of speech clash way too much for this to be criminalized
we have the US policing the world already we don't need your shit policing our faith nor the lack of it
fuck off you useless corrupt bureaucrats
lots of things get considered, not many get passed. i wouldn't worry about this.
Maybe the Muslim world should just learn to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to respect their impotent, nonexistant deity or his prophet.
Wouldn't be surprised if this gets passed, since it's about islam and all.
Still, I hope it'll go down the drain like the rest of the idiotic propositions organs like the UN have on the tables.
I love how literally every religion is okay with ripping on each other and constantly do it back and forth, but soon as someone does it to Islam, they get all butthurt.
And thus the UN becomes ever more irrelevant in the eyes of the western world.
I can see this getting vetoed a mile away, I'd say the only thing that's going to be considered is the delegates keeping a straight face through the meetings.
No western nation will join into said international agreement.
On top of that, most nations have constitutional statements that as a rule forbid the state or state powers to define and control anything even remotely similar to blasphemy.
That in turn means, that even if a state tried to ratify said agreement, it would get thrown out by every single constitutional court out there.
All of my what, seriously.
Yeah.. no.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;37783603]No western nation will join into said international agreement.
On top of that, most nations have constitutional statements that as a rule forbid the state or state powers to define and control anything even remotely similar to blasphemy.
That in turn means, that even if a state tried to ratify said agreement, it would get thrown out by every single constitutional court out there.[/QUOTE]
Haven't you heard? The UN is above the constitutions of the nations in it. /sarcasm
Will people stop saying that when people make fun of Islam they all get butthurt?
I don't give a flying FUCK if someone makes fun of my religion because who gives a shit if someone makes fun of what you believe in.
Muhammad was dirty and did not shower.
Come at me.
[QUOTE=proch;37783773]Muhammad was dirty and did not shower.
Come at me.[/QUOTE]
Jesus was a pimp and Mary was a whore.
Come at me.
The UN comes out with some hilarious shit
"hey guys look our towering bureaucracy will save teh world and help establish peace"
I'm religious and i don't give a fuck about blasphemy
Back to the Spanish Inquisition
[QUOTE=scurr;37783937]I'm religious and i don't give a fuck about blasphemy[/QUOTE]
Thats blasphemous!
[quote]suggesting limitations to freedom of speech when it was ''used to provoke or humiliate''[/quote]
Should we perhaps cut everyone's arms and legs off because they can be used to punch and kick?
Shouldn't this be "Muslim countries to push for blasphemy criminalisation?"
Yes, it should
[QUOTE=The fox;37783515]Wouldn't be surprised if this gets passed, since it's about islam and all.
Still, I hope it'll go down the drain like the rest of the idiotic propositions organs like the UN have on the tables.[/QUOTE]
I dare you to be any more conservative right leaning.
You hear me?
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