• One step closer to creating ourselves: Simulation Creates First Realistic Virtual Universe
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[quote]Astronomers have developed the first realistic virtual universe in a computer simulation that recreates 13 billion years of cosmic evolution. In the past, attempts to simulate the evolution of our universe were met with technological hurdles that resulted in either low-resolution or small-scale simulations. But a new simulation named "Illustris" has done the unprecedented and given us the first detailed view of a realistic, virtual universe that closely parallels our own.[/quote] [url]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/134343-Gorgeous-Simulation-Creates-First-Realistic-Virtual-Universe[/url] fuck it i tried, post below me got it embedded :v: Title explanation: I semi-seriously believe that if it's possible to create a truly realistic simulation of our universe, then chances are that we are living in one.
[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=NjSFR40SY58[/media] here you go
One day we might make an apple pie from scratch.
Pfft. Everyone knows [url=http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Digital_World]the digital world[/url] was created in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atanasoff%E2%80%93Berry_computer]1942[/url].
[I]zooming in[/I]
Not sure on the legitimacy of this to be honest. I'd like to see another source or two.
It'd be cool if the first alien life we find wouldn't be on another planet, but in a simulation.
if we can simulate the universe perfectly then there is no reason why we ourselves are not in a simulation. not saying we can right now, but we are working our way towards it
Until there is simulation porn there is no chance we are a simulation
Let's use this virtual universe for a spore-like game.
We will never be able to make a simulation of our entire universe down to the atomic level. Let's say a computer needed 2 atoms of space (highly likely more, but I'm going to extremes just to please the "but what if new technology" people) to process a single atom. Then, if we wanted to even simulate our world down to the atom, we would need a computer much bigger than Earth. So that won't ever happen for the earth, let alone our universe.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;44759988]Makes me worry someday that if we are in a simulation there's some chance that; A: Whoever runs the simulation decides to end it. Or B: Whoever runs the simulation decides to end it in firey pit of hurt.[/QUOTE] I think that a civilization that can make simulations as complex as our universe, would be humane enough to just let us run our course.
[QUOTE=Raptors!;44760761]I think that a civilization that can make simulations as complex as our universe, would be humane enough to just let us run our course.[/QUOTE] "Fuck I spilt coffee on the servers" or what if mr. universe creator stops paying the electric bill we are doomed
What if our universe is being run by some metaneckbeard living with his metamom in his metabasement? And he suddenly runs out of ram while watching his 4D porn, so he decides to turn off his copy of UniverseSimulator8743.exe that he pirated out of curiosity and ran for like 5 minutes?
Wish we could hack the universe to gain godmode and noclip. But this is very interesting. We could all be part of some experiment by the universe above us, and they could be in the same situation....
[QUOTE=AJ10017;44760814]Wish we could hack the universe to gain godmode and noclip. But this is very interesting. We could all be part of some experiment by the universe above us, and they could be in the same situation....[/QUOTE] When do the simulations end and the real reality begin?
[QUOTE=kiloy;44760921]When do the simulations end and the real reality begin?[/QUOTE] Never. Its like inception but worse.
[QUOTE=NixNax123;44760703]We will never be able to make a simulation of our entire universe down to the atomic level. Let's say a computer needed 2 atoms of space (highly likely more, but I'm going to extremes just to please the "but what if new technology" people) to process a single atom. Then, if we wanted to even simulate our world down to the atom, we would need a computer much bigger than Earth. So that won't ever happen for the earth, let alone our universe.[/QUOTE] To be precise, we'd need a computer twice the size of Earth to simulate Earth alone, in that case. To simulate the entire universe, we'd need twice the amount of matter available in the entire universe.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;44759505]if we can simulate the universe perfectly then there is no reason why we ourselves are not in a simulation. not saying we can right now, but we are working our way towards it[/QUOTE] Other than the fact that even if we are in a simulation, that's completely unfalsifiable and wouldn't really make any difference to us because there is no way to prove/disprove it.
Just waiting for the day when Captain Picard appears on TV, informing us that he has to shut us down because we're using too much bandwidth.
[thumb]http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/sites/www.cfa.harvard.edu/files/images/pr/2014-10/4/hires.jpg[/thumb] Amazing. [editline]9th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=zakedodead;44761390]Other than the fact that even if we are in a simulation, that's completely unfalsifiable and wouldn't really make any difference to us because there is no way to prove/disprove it.[/QUOTE] Actually it is falsifiable (maybe) [URL="http://www.washington.edu/news/2012/12/10/do-we-live-in-a-computer-simulation-uw-researchers-say-idea-can-be-tested/"]http://www.washington.edu/news/2012/12/10/do-we-live-in-a-computer-simulation-uw-researchers-say-idea-can-be-tested/[/URL]
I have read it took 5 years in the making and 3 years running
Well that's depressing as fuck.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;44761854]Well that's depressing as fuck.[/QUOTE] why is it depressing?
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44761915]why is it depressing?[/QUOTE] You will never know anything real, and mankind will never be able to advance scientifically.
It must not be a full simulation. Otherwise, information paradox. [QUOTE=Shreddinger;44761419][thumb]http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/sites/www.cfa.harvard.edu/files/images/pr/2014-10/4/hires.jpg[/thumb] Amazing. [editline]9th May 2014[/editline] Actually it is falsifiable (maybe) [URL="http://www.washington.edu/news/2012/12/10/do-we-live-in-a-computer-simulation-uw-researchers-say-idea-can-be-tested/"]http://www.washington.edu/news/2012/12/10/do-we-live-in-a-computer-simulation-uw-researchers-say-idea-can-be-tested/[/URL][/QUOTE] That article [i]maybe[/i] disproves that our [i]ancestors[/i] are running us as a simulation. Still, nothing disproves that we are being simulated by a complex, n>4 dimensional being (or multiple thereof). In fact, I personally find it very likely. Maybe not a classic grey-alien-looking thing, but something bizarre.
[QUOTE=Superkilll307;44761854]Well that's depressing as fuck.[/QUOTE] Well it beats our universe taking 13.8 billion years to do it.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;44761973]Well it beats our universe taking 13.8 billion years to do it.[/QUOTE] All that time is relative, for all you know the parameters set enable 5 seconds to be 5 thousand year's, maybe even 5 billion years.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFNEgdwjEhs[/media]
[QUOTE=KD007;44761966]It must not be a full simulation. Otherwise, information paradox. That article [i]maybe[/i] disproves that our [i]ancestors[/i] are running us as a simulation. Still, nothing disproves that we are being simulated by a complex, n>4 dimensional being (or multiple thereof). In fact, I personally find it very likely. Maybe not a classic grey-alien-looking thing, but something bizarre.[/QUOTE] did you read the article?
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