Jihadists cut down 150-year-old oak in Syria, accuse locals of worshipping it.
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[QUOTE][B]AFP - Jihadists cut down a 150-year-old oak tree in Atme, on Syria's border with Turkey, after they accused locals of worshipping it, a pro-jihadist source said.[/B]
"Thank God almighty, the tree... aged more than 150 years has been removed, after people were worshipping it instead of God," said the source on Thursday via his Twitter account named "our call is our jihad".[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.france24.com/en/20131122-jihadists-cut-down-150-year-old-oak-syria[/URL]
Poor tree - lived through a century....for this to happen. :(
islam ftw (!!!)
Their heads would implode if they saw what we do with our trees this time of year.
Ok. So apparently they come up with a crazed idea that locals are worshipping a tree instead of God, and because of a crazed idea with no real basis in fact, they cut down a 150 year old tree just to make a statement. There's a special class of stupid for that.
These people must still be living in the days of the Bible, where they see Asherah poles, incense altars, and sacrificial altars to Moloch around every corner.
so they prevented people from praying at a proper shrine and then they blame the people for finding another place to pray at?
ok
[QUOTE=Adlertag1940;42974281]islam ftw (!!!)[/QUOTE]
Was only a matter of time for some dickhead to make a post like this
there was a lot of art in iraq and afganistan until these sort of fuckheads rolled around destroying culture because some dick convinced them it was against their religion
[QUOTE=s0m3_guy;42974375]there was a lot of art in iraq and afganistan until these sort of fuckheads rolled around destroying culture because some dick convinced them it was against their religion[/QUOTE]
The Bamiyan Buddhas and several valuable artifacts from the national museums, not to mention many other lesser shrines, were casualties of that sort of thing. Fanatics, phooey. We're better off without all their kind if you ask me.
[QUOTE=KingArcher;42974340]so they prevented people from praying at a proper shrine and then they blame the people for finding another place to pray at?
ok[/QUOTE]
That's... pretty much it.
Would rather worship a tangible object than an imaginary deity anyway... Shame the tree had to suffer this nonsense. What's that old saying? If only trees could talk?
Disgusting, it's really sad that these kind of people give Islam a bad name in the western world.
It honestly always amuses me that people use the term "jihadists", as opposed to extremists or just plain old crazy folk.
"Jihad" only means "struggle" in the classical translation, and can be broadly used to describe anyone who's ever needed to fight for rights, to earn a living. To be more precise, it's supposed to be used in the context of struggle towards the unification of humans, in order to create a peaceful society.
It's kind of saddening to see it being used as a blanket term for Muslims who just happen to interpret their religious text a little too literally and extreme(At least, in this case.)
I'm not siding with them, but is there a link to the said Tweet?
To those fundamentalists and extremists, the moderate muslims we all know are heathens to them, they may as well have denounced islam to them
So... can we all just start pretending to worship jihadists? Would they then commit mass suicide? That'd be nice.
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I've always wondered about the Kaaba. I know that Muslims don't worship it but doesn't holding it up as a sacred object and always praying in its direction make it an idol?
Savages.
They dont care how old the tree is they are too dumb to grasp that it represents something, it's just "tree" for them or they do know and just cut it down to show who's in charge and stuff. Tree should have fallen over and killed one of them for ultimate irony.
[QUOTE=aznz888;42974436]It honestly always amuses me that people use the term "jihadists", as opposed to extremists or just plain old crazy folk.
"Jihad" only means "struggle" in the classical translation, and can be broadly used to describe anyone who's ever needed to fight for rights, to earn a living. To be more precise, it's supposed to be used in the context of struggle towards the unification of humans, in order to create a peaceful society.
It's kind of saddening to see it being used as a blanket term for Muslims who just happen to interpret their religious text a little too literally and extreme(At least, in this case.)[/QUOTE]
Also this, I was just recently informed that Jihad doesn't mean shooting people because you believe in Islam. Both the media AND the terrorists portrays this very wrong although both do it for different reasons. I used to blindly hate Religion but you really aren't supposed to take the Bible/Koran/whatever literally. It's about the messages they carry and these aren't bad.
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;42974589]So... can we all just start pretending to worship jihadists? Would they then commit mass suicide? That'd be nice.[/QUOTE]
Where they commit mass suicide is the whole issue in hand
At least they didn't kill any people this time.
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I've always wondered about the Kaaba. I know that Muslims don't worship it but doesn't holding it up as a sacred object and always praying in its direction make it an idol?[/QUOTE]
Given that it's an object which is considered holy, I don't think that's a contradiction. Worshiping/idolising the Kabba is just an extension of worshiping Allah.
The same can't be said of a tree.
Joke's on them, turns out that tree was the one true god.
Way to go guys, you killed god.
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I've always wondered about the Kaaba. I know that Muslims don't worship it but doesn't holding it up as a sacred object and always praying in its direction make it an idol?[/QUOTE]
The cornerstone of the Kaaba is supposedly a stone that fell from heaven as a sign for the right place to build an altar to worship Allah at, as sent by Allah to Adam and Eve.
Now see here, the Kaaba, according to Islamic tradition (specifically the Qur'an), was basically one of the first houses built by humanity to worship Allah in. They built it to serve the purpose of a shrine, not to venerate the building itself. It's technically interchangeable as long as you don't directly worship it (the Kaaba) as an idol but rather direct your prayers to Allah. If you put the Kaaba in the place of Allah during your prayers however, you're fucked.
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I've always wondered about the Kaaba. I know that Muslims don't worship it but doesn't holding it up as a sacred object and always praying in its direction make it an idol?[/QUOTE]
They have to make a pilgrimage to it at least once in their life. How is that not worshiping it?
I want to say, though, it's just a tree.
Yeah, it's an old tree, but it's still just a tree. Better they got rid of it than killed some of the people they claim worship it.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42975334]Given that it's an object which is considered holy, I don't think that's a contradiction. Worshiping/idolising the Kabba is just an extension of worshiping Allah.
The same can't be said of a tree.[/QUOTE]
but technically,a tree is the direct creation made by Allah while the Ka'abah is a brickhouse made by Abraham or Solomon or some other guy.
So logically idolising a tree makes you much more closer to god than the Ka'abah
Matrix374, your statement is correct logically, but Allah sort of put a sign there asking them to build a sort of shrine. Sort of.
But your correct logically.
[QUOTE=s0m3_guy;42974375]there was a lot of art in iraq and afganistan until these sort of fuckheads rolled around destroying culture because some dick convinced them it was against their religion[/QUOTE]
The Christians/Catholics had quite an issue with this too. They regularly torched art and literature that was deemed nonreligious, because the church found art for the sake of art sacrilegious. They believed that art should depict religious scenes and characters only, and took quite a nasty stance against material that didn't. Many artists from this time period who were commissioned to art pieces even incorporated secret codes and imagery in rebellion against the church's oppressive stance on the subject.
Michelangelo is especially famous for putting "Easter eggs" in his commissioned work. His art in the Sistine Chapel is flooded with criticisms and hidden messages, such as the famous realization that [I]The Creation of Adam[/I] has God floating inside a human brain, leading many to speculate that Michelangelo was implying that God is a figment of the imagination. Images of the Pope and other religious figures even has cherubs giving them subtle hand gestures that are the period equivalent of the middle finger, which was apparently his sneaky way of telling the Church that it could fuck right off with that shit.
Other artists were even sneakier, painting elaborate scenes that could only be seen if viewed from a specific angle. Where looking at a painting head on might show a stirring religious scene, having just the right perspective of it would reveal debauchery and sin and corruption.
It's pretty interesting stuff!
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;42976915]The cornerstone of the Kaaba is supposedly a stone that fell from heaven as a sign for the right place to build an altar to worship Allah at, as sent by Allah to Adam and Eve.
Now see here, the Kaaba, according to Islamic tradition (specifically the Qur'an), was basically one of the first houses built by humanity to worship Allah in. They built it to serve the purpose of a shrine, not to venerate the building itself. It's technically interchangeable as long as you don't directly worship it (the Kaaba) as an idol but rather direct your prayers to Allah. If you put the Kaaba in the place of Allah during your prayers however, you're fucked.[/QUOTE]
Muslims say it was built by Abraham and Ishmael, but the Kaaba was actually built by pagans, long before Mohammed.
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[QUOTE=Reshy;42977496]They have to make a pilgrimage to it at least once in their life. How is that not worshiping it?[/QUOTE]
Religions contradict themselves, what else is new
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;42977869]Muslims say it was built by Abraham and Ishmael, but the Kaaba was actually built by pagans, long before Mohammed.
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Religions contradict themselves, what else is new[/QUOTE]
Bro, most Muslim sects have conflicting viewpoints on what's right and what isn't. that's a bigger minefield than the religion contradicting itself for the most part.
It's shit like this that gets me mad. There goes a piece of history, removed from the world for no good reason.
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