Yet more dick waving
[quote]N.Korea warns of 'tough retaliation' against UN action
By Lim Chang-won (AFP) – 1 hour ago
SEOUL — North Korea warned Friday of retaliation if it is hauled before the UN Security Council over the sinking of a South Korean warship, as Seoul sought international backing for its campaign to punish its communist neighbour.
Tensions have soared on the Korean peninsula since a probe concluded last month that a North Korean torpedo sank the warship near the disputed sea border in March, prompting Seoul to announce a series of reprisals against Pyongyang.
The North -- which has warned of all-out war -- accused Washington and its allies of having "an ulterior motive" in wanting to refer the issue to the Security Council, and dismissed the probe results as "sheer fabrication".
"The US and the UNSC will find nothing to say about the toughest retaliation (North Korea) is to take as it did in the past," a foreign ministry spokesman said in a statement carried by the official media.
They will "never shrug off the responsibility for having blocked the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula and sparked off a conflict," he said.
The hardline state has furiously denied involvement in the sinking of the Cheonan, which cost the lives of 46 sailors in the deadliest peacetime incident for South Korea since the end of the Korean war 60 years ago.
It has stalled efforts at trying to revive six-nation talks on ridding North Korea of nuclear weapons which have been on ice since Pyongyang walked out in April last year.
In Geneva, a North Korean diplomat told a conference on disarmament on Thursday that the cross-border tensions were running so high that war may break out "at any moment."
Ri Jang-Gon, the country's deputy permanent representative at the United Nations in Geneva, warned that Pyongyang was "ready to promptly react to... various forms of tough measures including an all-out war".
South Korean President Lee Myung-Bak, whose country has already retaliated with measures including a trade freeze against its impoverished neighbour, is visiting Singapore seeking to win international support for its stance.
Lee, whose government wants the Security Council to censure Pyongyang, will call at an Asian security forum in Singapore for close cooperation in "resolutely responding to North Korea's provocation", his office said.
Washington and Seoul are also expected to reach agreement at the forum on the need to review their joint defence posture to deter further aggression by the North, an unnamed South Korean official told the Yonhap news agency.
"The two sides are expected to share views that the North's attack on the Cheonan was clearly an act of invasion and a violation of the Korean War armistice," he said, referring to the truce that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.
South Korea and the United States have meanwhile delayed a joint anti-submarine drill which was due to be staged in a show of defiance against the North, officials said.
Seoul's Vice Foreign Minister Chun Young-Woo will make a formal request soon for a UN resolution to censure Pyongyang but will not press for sanctions, a diplomat said Thursday in Washington.
South Korea can count on the full support of the United States and other Western powers, but to secure adoption of the resolution, it must also enlist the backing of veto-wielding council members Russia and China.
Russia, which has said it needs "100 percent proof" of the North's involvement, has sent a team of naval experts to South Korea to review the findings of the probe.
At a three-way summit last week, China's Premier Wen Jiabao resisted pressure from Japan and South Korea to publicly support the UN move or to condemn the North.[/quote]
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I'm convinced North Korea is not going to do jack shit.
Shits about to get real.
And nothing will happen.
It'd be an idiotic move by them if they started a war, since nobody's really on their side and they're severely lacking in terms of technology.
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They won't last long.
Edit: K, give me boxes so I can build a nuclear bunker.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;22364813]It'd be an idiotic move by them if they started a war, since nobody's really on their side and they're severely lacking in terms of technology.[/QUOTE]
What this guy said. Poor North Korea. ;_; What went wrong?
Yup, we'll bomb all our problems rather than actually solving them. Yup, that's a great idea.
[QUOTE=Shibbey;22364855]Yup, we'll bomb all our problems rather than actually solving them. Yup, that's a great idea.[/QUOTE]
It's hard to reason with a bunch of brainwashed idiots who think the world envies them.
Force should be applied when needed to show them they can't win. It's the only way they will learn properly.
The world needs more wars, bring it on!
If there is actually war, South Korea will get annihilated if we don't get there quick enough in good numbers.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22364925]If there is actually war, South Korea will get annihilated if we don't get there quick enough in good numbers.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of what happens Seoul is going to get flattened by their artillery. It'll be the first thing they do.
Actually, if we could somehow get a hold of Israels awesome anti missile/shell technology they could minimise the shells that hit Seoul.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22364965]Actually, if we could somehow get a hold of Israels awesome anti missile/shell technology they could minimise the shells that hit Seoul.[/QUOTE]
It's going to get hit pretty badly regardless. Isreal might not want to be our bum chums just moments after the flotilla stuff happened.
"Yet more dick waving" was exactly what I was thinking when I clicked the thread.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;22364813]It'd be an idiotic move by them if they started a war, since nobody's really on their side and they're severely lacking in terms of technology.[/QUOTE]
perhaps but they've also got the fourth largest army in the world
[QUOTE=spekter;22364973]It's going to get hit pretty badly regardless. Isreal might not want to be our bum chums just moments after the flotilla stuff happened.[/QUOTE]
Well the US and Israel have worked together over the sort of technology needed for it and I'm sure that the US has a working model in the final stages of testing.
If the war broke out again then it would be a perfect opportunity to test in a total war scenario.
[QUOTE=spekter;22364934]Regardless of what happens Seoul is going to get flattened by their artillery. It'll be the first thing they do.[/QUOTE]Most of their artillery lacks the range. Although there is still plenty of it with the range to cause significant destruction, the biggest threat are the Scuds they have in large quantities pointed at Seoul and other places.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;22365041]perhaps but they've also got the fourth largest army in the world[/QUOTE]
Doesn't mean much when the rest of the world is against them.
[QUOTE=Kalibos;22365041]perhaps but they've also got the fourth largest army in the world[/QUOTE]
If you've got a huge army but their shit it will just mean more blood.
If a war does kick off (highly unlikely) then North Korea will probably get their asses kicked by the major world powers.
North Korea has a fucking giant army, it will be a war of attrition and every last one of them will fight to the death.
[QUOTE=starpluck;22364754]I'm convinced North Korea is not going to do jack shit.[/QUOTE]
So you think they are going to attack?
I'm kinda hoping for war, because I hate North Korea, but i'm also against war, cause I don't think it'd be very good with the war on Terror and Korea with all of our troops on a few fronts.
The whole war on terror idea is laughable, a conventional army will rarely manage to defeat an insurgency who use guerilla warfare and rarely fight face to face.
Aye, the war on terror isn't really a war anymore so much as a hunt. Some of the soldiers fighting in this hunt haven't really experienced the full power of real war, having spent their service out in a dusty desert land, occassionaly encountering guerilla forces. It'd be a massive change for them if they were relocated to fight in the concrete jungles of North Korea, against a large professionally-trained army. It'd be akin to the wars their fathers and grandfathers used to fight, like Vietnam and the like.
I only hope it's over quicker than the guerilla hunting in the Middle East.
Vietnam was a guerilla war as well for the most part thanks to the Vietcong.
A war in North Korea would be world war 2 style fighting, close quarters urban combat and tank charges across open ground to break the enemy lines, it would be nasty and bloody fighting, and considering the size of the armies that would face each other, very very very long and drawn out.
They aren't doing shit. NK has NO ONE'S support, and their nukes don'r even have proper targeting systems
soo rooonreeeey
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;22366754]They aren't doing shit. NK has NO ONE'S support, and their nukes don'r even have proper targeting systems[/QUOTE]
For a long ass time the russians couldn't aim a nuclear warhead right.
So they just made them a lot bigger, and they were seen as a very credible threat for a few decades.
North Korea doesn't stand a chance if they throw the first confirmed punch. If South Korea attacks first, we won't have the backing of some of the other countries. I hope we get Russia and China in on this so we can get rid of North Korea once and for all. One big peaceful Korea sounds nice.
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