This list is retarded. Why include Palestine? As the guy said, it's not recognized as a country. Also, what would be the country of Palestine, Hamas ruled Gaza or PLO ruled West Bank? What about the Oslo Accords with areas A, B, and C? Are areas A and B both Palestine but C isn't? He mentions that it was free from British rule in 1948 but all of the areas that currently belong to the Palestinians were occupied by Egypt and Jordan until 1967 when the Israelis occupied them. It's clear that this list has almost no research done into it because if I can spot these many problems with just one entry, there's likely many more in the other entries.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;52372050]This list is retarded. Why include Palestine? As the guy said, it's not recognized as a country. Also, what would be the country of Palestine, Hamas ruled Gaza or PLO ruled West Bank? What about the Oslo Accords with areas A, B, and C? Are areas A and B both Palestine but C isn't? He mentions that it was free from British rule in 1948 but all of the areas that currently belong to the Palestinians were occupied by Egypt and Jordan until 1967 when the Israelis occupied them. It's clear that this list has almost no research done into it because if I can spot these many problems with just one entry, there's likely many more in the other entries.[/QUOTE]
Yea.
It's because is out of character for doing this for once.
And why say it, Thiss channel usually takes lot well known sources of supply their claims but this one oddly isn't because it's mystery.
surprised I didn't see Estonia on this shitlist
Lol what a load of bullshit about Belgium. The divisions aren't growing at all since 2010, the "hate" between the two parts of the country is far from serious. I have yet to meet a Walloon who seriously hates the Flemish or the other way around. Not to mention the terrorist attack we had last year reinforced our unity. Belgium isn't gonna die any time soon.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;52372089]You don't have to throw these buzzwords. Just point out that he said that Israel occupies parts of Palestine as a buffer zone against IS. ??[/QUOTE]
Part of the reason that Israel occupied the West Bank/Gaza/Golan/Sinai as a buffer zone against the PLO and Jordanian/Egyptian/Syrian military. Their being a buffer zone to IS right now is not the main goal of occupying them. I'm not throwing around buzzwords, I'm explaining why the list is retarded in detail.
Good to know Mordor is safe :happy:
[QUOTE=Hauptmann;52372120]Lol what a load of bullshit about Belgium. The divisions aren't growing at all since 2010, the "hate" between the two parts of the country is far from serious. [B]I have yet to meet a Walloon who seriously hates the Flemish or the other way around. Not to mention the terrorist attack we had last year reinforced our unity.[/B] Belgium isn't gonna die any time soon.[/QUOTE]
This video (which I realized is badly unfinished or rushed) only and supposedly focuses hypothetically on next one hundred years (2117) not right now.
And that sign means this unity is going be short-lived in next 5 or 10 years like how reality works until if they're going be more ways that your nation's two cultures needed workout no way or other, Somewhat.
I think you guys are underestimating how far away 100 years in. He's probably right about several, even though some are far-fetched and some are easy picks (Palestine).
For example, in 1917 (100 years ago), half the world was still under British control (including India-Pakistan, Labrador in Canada, and all of "Egypt" (aka the entire Nile River Valley). Mongolia and Tibet were both part of Qing China. Within 100 years, Tibet became a country and then ceased to be one.. Mongolia gained independence. Persia became Iran. Literally all of Africa threw off colonial powers and became new states. French Indochina split into Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, and then Vietnam split in half, and then reunited. Canada got Labrador. The Philippines regained independence. Pakistan split out of India, and then again into Pakistan and Bangladesh. Burma got rid of the Brits and became Myanmar. The Ottoman Empire collapsed into Turkey, Israel, Jordan, and a fuckton of other states. The Saudis conquered the entire Arabian Peninsula, crushing Hejaz, Asir, and other former Ottoman states. Oman gained independence, and then Yemen existed. Poland came back into existence. All the Baltic States became a thing. Finland gained independence literally 100 years ago, after having been a part of Sweden and then Russia for pretty much all of history.
The world map will change a [I]fuckton[/I] over the next 100 years. Wouldn't surprise me to see the UK collapse, the US radically change, the Middle East completely transformed, Africa completely transformed, and the EU merged into a federation with a variety of new smaller states (like from the collapse of Yugoslavia).
Oh yeah there's us
since China said that they'll reclaim us at 2020
dunno where the guy got the info but
everybody wants independence except the chinese that escaped here
[editline]18th June 2017[/editline]
we're all gonna die guys
Another non-texan talking about how Texas supposedly "wants" independence. Great cherrypicked study too (most polls report that we're overwhelmingly against independence.) That sentiment isn't something I've actually experienced in Texas either. Usually a couple people will talk about how interesting/weird it'd be but that's it.
Alaska is just what the fuck haha.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52372095]This guy makes the common mistake that a lot of ethnonationalists make in that it's fucking expensive, complicated and probably not worth it to split up a country. Muh culture!!!1111 pales in comparison to trying to replace the massive hole in your economy and infrastructure that's created by splitting. Britain is relatively wealthy and powerful nation but its getting shafted hard and its not even gaining ""independence""[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. You can give good examples from history when it needed to happen, but in those cases the countries were being fucked over hard by whomever ruled over them. I can't really think of any western country where this is really happening to anywhere near a similar degree.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;52372050]Why include Palestine? As the guy said, it's not recognized as a country.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52373732]Palestine isn't even recognized as a country.[/QUOTE]
Over 70% of the world recognises Palestine as a country. Among the countries which don't recognise them yet, there are also countries which support the idea of a Palestinian state, including Norway, Ireland, the UK, France, Spain and Denmark. The United Nations recognises Palestine as a (non-member observer) state, upgraded from their previous designation as an 'entity.' The main opponents to Palestinian recognition as a state include Israel (obviously), the US, Canada, Australia and Germany. This point was broadly addressed in the video - "that said, more than two-thirds of the United Nations member states do recognise it..." [url="https://youtu.be/WcRn7ULNHgw?t=3m34s"]@3:34[/url]
lmao you cant predict 100 years, we cant even predict 1 year ahead
[QUOTE=.Isak.;52373403]Persia became Iran.[/QUOTE]
They're the same thing, it's been called Iran by the locals since Late Antiquity.
In 1935 the Shah asked the international community to call it that instead or Persia but that didn't change anything about the country itself.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;52373732]Kiribati is a tiny nation of 100,000 people that doesn't even have its own military, but has a multinational effort with millions of us dollars worth behind it to mitigate any ill effects. Either way it's not an immense rewriting of the map.
[B]Denmark getting wiped off the map is contingent on them just giving up (which they aren't) and being incapable of doing anything (which again, they aren't)[/B]
Palestine isn't even recognized as a country.
South Sudan was a failed state from the get go.
North Korea being absorbed by South korea is dependent upon;
1. S. Korea being willing to accept the absolute disaster of cushioning the collapse of the regime, and trying to rebuild the region. This cannot be understated, especially since south Koreans are becoming increasingly apathetic.
2. China choosing to not assert control over their buffer state should the existing regime collapse.
Canada, the US, UK and Belgium splitting would be a 12 gauge in the foot. I think in two years when the UK falls off the cliff edge, the infinite shortcomings of brexit will be a good wake up call to a lot of these independence movements.[/QUOTE]
Where in the video does he mention Denmark?
For the Netherlands to be flooded in 100 years there needs to be a 5-meter increase in water level, so if the Netherlands is in gone 100 years then you can assume the rest of the world will be following because at that point there will be somekind of global climate change apocalypse.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;52373765]Another non-texan talking about how Texas supposedly "wants" independence. Great cherrypicked study too (most polls report that we're overwhelmingly against independence.) That sentiment isn't something I've actually experienced in Texas either. Usually a couple people will talk about how interesting/weird it'd be but that's it.
Alaska is just what the fuck haha.
Pretty much. You can give good examples from history when it needed to happen, but in those cases the countries were being fucked over hard by whomever ruled over them. I can't really think of any western country where this is really happening to anywhere near a similar degree.[/QUOTE]
Furthermore, Texas has no right to secede from the union anyways. There's no real point in making Texas an independent state- despite how large it is, it wasn't fully self-sufficient before joining the US, and likely won't be self-sufficient if it left. (Which it could really only do via force.)
[quote]Second Scottish independence vote could be even closer[/quote]
Not really much evidence for this right now if you look at the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_second_Scottish_independence_referendum#Opinion_polling]polls[/url], and the SNP just lost a ton of seats in the general election and are [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40216748]potentially going to stop asking for a second vote for a while[/url]
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52374809]Not really much evidence for this right now if you look at the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_second_Scottish_independence_referendum#Opinion_polling]polls[/url], and the SNP just lost a ton of seats in the general election and are [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40216748]potentially going to stop asking for a second vote for a while[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm betting between next five to twenty years if SNP retains their control in Scottish politics and if more younger people are sided with independence in near future.
[QUOTE=ZombieWaffle;52374779]Furthermore, Texas has no right to secede from the union anyways. There's no real point in making Texas an independent state- despite how large it is, it wasn't fully self-sufficient before joining the US, and likely won't be self-sufficient if it left. (Which it could really only do via force.)[/QUOTE]
Actually, our economy is big and diverse enough that we could probably survive fairly alright independently. Only a few states can really claim to that like New York, Cali, etc..
but yeah the rights thing is big too. the supreme court has concluded that once you're in, you can't get out. It is possible to try to leave forcefully, but going up against the most advanced and powerful military in the world isn't a good idea.
[QUOTE=Glent;52373794]Over 70% of the world recognises Palestine as a country. Among the countries which don't recognise them yet, there are also countries which support the idea of a Palestinian state, including Norway, Ireland, the UK, France, Spain and Denmark. The United Nations recognises Palestine as a (non-member observer) state, upgraded from their previous designation as an 'entity.' The main opponents to Palestinian recognition as a state include Israel (obviously), the US, Canada, Australia and Germany. This point was broadly addressed in the video - "that said, more than two-thirds of the United Nations member states do recognise it..." [url="https://youtu.be/WcRn7ULNHgw?t=3m34s"]@3:34[/url][/QUOTE]
Read the rest of my post. Which palestine is the country of Palestine, Hamas ruled Gaza or Fatah ruled West Bank?
[QUOTE=Svinnik;52375217]Read the rest of my post. Which palestine is the country of Palestine, Hamas ruled Gaza or Fatah ruled West Bank?[/QUOTE]
They are not two separate countries, both together constitute the state of Palestine, but currently neither faction controls the entire territory. In terms of which government is legitimate, the UN recognises the Palestinian Authority (Fatah) as the official government of the Palestinian state. Even if you take this to mean that Hamas isn't a real government, that doesn't mean that Hamas-controlled Gaza isn't a part of the state of Palestine, only that it isn't under the control of that country's government. Similar to how IS-controlled parts of Syria and Iraq are still parts of Syria and Iraq, just not under the control of the government. Regardless, the precise territory which constitutes the state of Palestine wasn't the point of my response, only that it is a recognised state by most of the world.
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