I miss the days when steam wasn't a place for scummy profit and user manipulation.
[QUOTE=Hogie bear;50785195]I miss the days when steam wasn't a place for scummy profit and user manipulation.[/QUOTE]
It's not just Steam. The internet is growing constantly and everyone's out for attention and money.
Try to look at a website without adblock. The actual content makes up like 10% of the screen and you - the user who should be thanked for visiting the site or even purchasing stuff - gets treated like shit by getting flooded with ads, newsletter subscriptions, sharing requests, links to pyramid scheme websites, overlays and even automatically executing links, if you scroll too far on certain sites.
People should fight that as well but everyone seems to be ok with that. I know servers aren't going to pay themselves but if I care about a website, I donate something to keep it alive. I don't want to spend money to get ads thrown at me.
I felt like I needed to adress that. Back to topic: This shit infuriates me but I'm not actually surprised.
I wish they would rework the whole workshop, it's needed an overhaul for years, and the removal (not really) of stars didn't do anything.
Everyone I know that uses the workshop, myself included, hates how it works. I remember people on polycount's dota forums made suggestions for valve to rework it forever ago.
<3 3kliksphilips
So has 3kliksphilips stopped being the trash mapper who recommends bad practice I've always known him as from years ago or something?
Suddenly seeing people talking about him a lot more when he used to be laughed out of discussions for promoting bad practice years back (like fuck I can actually dig any of this up by this point, but I vaguely remember him appearing in our mapping section and just being a condescending asshole to people pointing out some of his bad habits).
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50785357]So has 3kliksphilips stopped being the trash mapper who recommends bad practice I've always known him as from years ago or something?
Suddenly seeing people talking about him a lot more when he used to be laughed out of discussions for promoting bad practice years back (like fuck I can actually dig any of this up by this point, but I vaguely remember him appearing in our mapping section and just being a condescending asshole to people pointing out some of his bad habits).[/QUOTE]
Nope. On the subject of the video, yeah the downvoting has been going on for a while now, but mostly ESPECIALLY lately near the OP deadline. A bunch of users on mapcore where aware of it as well.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50785357]So has 3kliksphilips stopped being the trash mapper who recommends bad practice I've always known him as from years ago or something?
Suddenly seeing people talking about him a lot more when he used to be laughed out of discussions for promoting bad practice years back (like fuck I can actually dig any of this up by this point, but I vaguely remember him appearing in our mapping section and just being a condescending asshole to people pointing out some of his bad habits).[/QUOTE]
Probably not, but people love him now due to his informational CSGO videos where he tests shit.
He's also now got a couple of servers where he hosts a bunch of maps on rotation to be tested.
I like his videos just because he keeps it interesting. Easy to binge watch them because it's hard to get bored.
Valve just don't give a shit honestly
valve is never gonna fix this with ban waves or removing votes, they need a system to prevent bots all together
which will never happen
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;50786636]valve is never gonna fix this with ban waves or removing votes, they need a system to prevent bots all together
which will never happen[/QUOTE]
It's really not all that hard, just make it so that you have to 2 factor auth if you want to upvote/downvote maps.
Not surprised in the slightest with Valve's absolute apathy.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50785357]So has 3kliksphilips stopped being the trash mapper who recommends bad practice I've always known him as from years ago or something?
Suddenly seeing people talking about him a lot more when he used to be laughed out of discussions for promoting bad practice years back (like fuck I can actually dig any of this up by this point, but I vaguely remember him appearing in our mapping section and just being a condescending asshole to people pointing out some of his bad habits).[/QUOTE]
:what:
[editline]July 28, 2016[/editline]
Look who's stroking their ego here.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50787210]It's really not all that hard, just make it so that you have to 2 factor auth if you want to upvote/downvote maps.[/QUOTE]
Or captcha or bot guard
But valve doesn't care
[QUOTE=Jelman;50785490]Probably not, but people love him now due to his informational CSGO videos where he tests shit.
He's also now got a couple of servers where he hosts a bunch of maps on rotation to be tested.[/QUOTE]
my friend actually got a map on that server, de_network. He also showed me on his bank account that he got a transaction 5000 euros from valve (which is insane to me, wtf) for purchasing mapping related tools
how about a system where commenting would be needed to vote? then we'd see all the spam comments and quickly know who to ban.
Makes me miss the glory days when modders did what they did for the joy and practice rather than greed.
[QUOTE=uitham;50789017]my friend actually got a map on that server, de_network. He also showed me on his bank account that he got a transaction 5000 euros from valve (which is insane to me, wtf) for purchasing mapping related tools[/QUOTE]
I'm curious as to what these mapping tools were.
[QUOTE=Falstad007;50789272]Makes me miss the glory days when modders did what they did for the joy and practice rather than greed.[/QUOTE]
They still do it for fun, though. But modding for free doesn't pay the bills, so it gets difficult to dedicate time to it. When it does, people can mod a lot more, especially the ones that enjoy it.
There's always been scummy ones as well. Stealing other's work, cheating and abusing other players, taking advantage for whatever gains they can get. The industry has just grown a ton, and the opportunities have scaled with it, so it's attracted more both good and bad.
[QUOTE=SonicHitman;50789115]how about a system where commenting would be needed to vote? then we'd see all the spam comments and quickly know who to ban.[/QUOTE]
I think having two conditions in order to vote for maps on workshops should be key. Much like here you need to hit a post limit in order to rate comments, but do that on the workshop like you mentioned, and secondly have a condition where you need a certain amount of hours in active CSGO matches (not lobbies or simply running csgo in the background.)
Perhaps Valve is trying to do things to prevent this like mentioned in the video but i just hate how there is zero communication, a blog post or something about what is going on would be sufficient.
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